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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>I had even noticed the spelling mistake in the file name and corrected in my system before the patch was released, but I installed the patch before starting that test.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
So what you are basically telling me, is that you noticed a bug and didn't inform me.
Shame on you... http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/ima...ons/icon12.gif

Well, I'll have a look on the anger files again, but compared to other races they shouldn't be too nice. Maybe I am missing something. Do you know, if they were at war with somebody else? That would make them nicer towards you.
One thing the AI seems to ignore, is the maximum allowed treaty parameter. I have set that to T&R, but have seen the Vikings enter military alliances and partnerships in spite of that.

Rollo

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>So what you are basically telling me, is that you noticed a bug and didn't inform me.
Shame on you... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well, it takes two seconds to rename a file, but two minutes to write a note. http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif
Many times I mod downloaded races in any way I like, since it’s something I do in private for my personal use there's no need on reporting or asking permission.
Actually next time I checked your patch was Online. http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/ima...ons/icon12.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Well, I'll have a look on the anger files again, but compared to other races they shouldn't be too nice. Maybe I am missing something. Do you know, if they were at war with somebody else? That would make them nicer towards you.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I think they were at war with those blue hammerhead neutral players but had a treat with some other neutral. Maybe it was just because I’m a good and nice player. http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif
Too bad I erased that game and will have to start over to test them.

Re: Space Vikings sneak preview
 

QUOTE:
Sizes missing by now would be colony ships, space stations and starbases (I used resized Versions of the battlestation) and all units (fighters, troops, weap plats and sats)
/QUOTE

See thework to do page. As well as the sizes you mention, I will be making images for battlemoon/ death star, infantry, and various other modded vehicles.

QUOTE:
Hope you like what I've done.
/QUOTE

I haven't seen your Version yet. Where can I get it?


QUOTE:
It will be considered temporary until you provide your own official Version.
/QUOTE

I have been very busy this summer (4 different weddings to go to, stag nights, holidays, visiting people... I haven't had a weekend "off" since June and won't have another until at least October) so it might be a loooong time before the Viking images are done. Please be patient and bear with me though, I will get there and I would hate for someone else to beat me to it.

QUOTE:
do you have pics for any of them?
/QUOTE

I have some images in progress, but I'm not ready for another upload yet.

And a note to Rollo:
I had planned to wait until all outline images were done before I did any colouring, but I have decided to break my own rule. I should have a completed racial portrait by Tuesday for inclusion in your zips. (I do like the Hagar pics though=-) I'll mail them to you.

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>And a note to Rollo:
I had planned to wait until all outline images were done before I did any colouring, but I have decided to break my own rule. I should have a completed racial portrait by Tuesday for inclusion in your zips. (I do like the Hagar pics though=-) I'll mail them to you.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Okay, great. Can't wait to see it. If I upload the new stuff with the official race picture and flag we need also agree on a new and official race name (and I can finally get rid of the self-centered Rollvik name, which was never intended for public use just for PBW, but I was too lazy to change all the file names http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/ima...ons/icon12.gif). What do you think (anybody)? Just Vikings_? Space_Vikings_, Odinsons_, Einherjar_, Aesir_ whatever...

Rollo

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(Fanfare)

"The Dogroll Space Vikings"

(/Fanfare)

What do you think?

A note to Andres - Sorry if my previous post seemed harsh. No offence intended, I really respect your work. I just don't want to lose control of the SV images.

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[This message has been edited by dogscoff (edited 24 August 2001).]

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>I haven't seen your Version yet. Where can I get it? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

It seems that the email listed in this forum is wrong. Trying again with the one listed in your site.

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by dogscoff:
(Fanfare)

"The Dogroll Space Vikings"

(/Fanfare)

What do you think?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

*lol* How does a Dogroll compare to an eggroll?

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>One thing the AI seems to ignore, is the maximum allowed treaty parameter. I have set that to T&R, but have seen the Vikings enter military alliances and partnerships in spite of that.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I can't find the thread where I read it, but ISTR some speculation that that setting only limits what the AI will offer, not what it will accept.

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The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the
human mind to correlate all of its contents. We live on a placid
island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was
not meant that we should go far. -- HP Lovecraft, "The Call of Cthulhu"

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I see. Thank you for the info, capnq.

Rollo
[edit] typo (can't even type 8 words right http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/ima...ons/icon12.gif)

[This message has been edited by Rollo (edited 24 August 2001).]

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>I have been very busy this summer (4 different weddings to go to, stag nights, holidays, visiting people... I haven't had a weekend "off" since June and won't have another until at least October) so it might be a loooong time before the Viking images are done. Please be patient and bear with me though, I will get there and I would hate for someone else to beat me to it.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hopefully I'll have more time then and will be able to help you make 3d models based in your drawings. The simple-geometric shapes of your ships should be a piece of cake after the dragons I'm working on now.

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OK, there is at least one new image on the space vikings page, in *Glorious technicolour*. Yes, I finally got round to colouring something in. Take a look and tell us what you think.

I've noticed a few mistakes on the image which I'll sort out tonight. See if you can spot them all=-)

Feedback would be appreciated, especially about which courier image to use. (I've only had one or two opinions on that so far)

There is also a flag image, which I haven't posted. To see that you'll have to wait for Rollo's next AI release (soon, I believe.)

To see it, go to the Space Vikings Official Homepage

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[This message has been edited by dogscoff (edited 06 September 2001).]

[This message has been edited by dogscoff (edited 06 September 2001).]

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Man it's quiet this afternoon...

Anyway, I will be posting *another* viking update in about... ooh... 3 hours' time. There will be no less than 3 (three!) new ship designs, with another "which do you prefer" survey.

Please take a look and tell me which courier is better, and which ark ship.

Post responses here, or by email or ICQ (details on my website). Space Vikings Official Homepage


*Dogscoff wanders off in search of Camembert or Brie...

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The full-colour racial pic has been fixd and postd. You know, just in case anyone is intertstd...

*sigh*

Oh no... 3 Posts in a row to my own thread with no rsponss from othr ppl...

I'm turning into LCC!

I'll start complaining about my kyboard nxt..!

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I just discovered something interesting! There is no dictionary entry for knaw here! I suppose that means that I am a set of a different quirk rather than a horse of a different color. A quirky quark quacks quickly quietly but slowly builds to a quescendo!

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Rollo, Rollo, did you never read the legend of the contest ? Your picture has him drinking from a stein!

Where is the fleugalhorn with which the ocean was drunk ?????

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Aha another difference! You say flugelhorn
http://www.azizamusic.com/peterherbert/projects.htm

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QUOTE:
knaw
/QUOTE

The only Knaw I know is at http://www.supermegatopia.com/profiles/knaw.html

QUOTE:
Rollo, Rollo,
/QUOTE
#
It's not Rollo doing the gfx, it's Dogscoff. Hello=-)

QUOTE:
did you never read the legend of the contest ? Your picture has him drinking from a stein!
Where is the fleugalhorn with which the ocean was drunk ?????
/QUOTE

I guess it depends on your translation and/or Version of norse oral history. In mine there is no mention of a "fleugalhorn". Also, that was Thor who drank from the oceans until the tides were created. This is just a generic Viking leader somwhere in the 25th Century.

Thanks for the interest anyway. Good to know thre are some more Norse mythologists (?) out there-=)

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Aha a script at Last! What I had in mind was a combination of :

Come on without come on within youve not seen nothing like the mighty quinn
Come on without come on within youve not seen nothing like the mighty quinn
And when the Eskimo gets here
everybodys gonna jump and cheer

Somebody let the cat out of the bag
And now its going like a bat out of Hell
I built it one piece at a time and it didnt cost me a dime....
I prefer to be a passenger.
I need female/woman drivers.
I would like to live at Majestic.
I would like to listen to music in one of these :
http://www.waterfalls.net/genesis/sub1b.html

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QUOTE:
Aha a script at Last! What I had in mind was a combination of :
Come on without ... {insert more crap lyrics here}
/QUOTE

WTF has that got to do with the Space Vikings shipset?

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Wow, this thread was all the way back on page 3.
*bumpidibump*

Oh, almost forgot there is a new Version of the Vikings: TADAA! http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif new gfx, better AI, more Viking stuff, a "must-have".

You can find it HERE .

Enjoy http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif

Rollo

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QUOTE:
Oh, almost forgot there is a new Version of the Vikings: TADAA! new gfx, better AI, more Viking stuff, a "must-have".

You can find it HERE .
/QUOTE

or HERE. In future, only major updates will be posted to the forum. Keep checking the official viking homepage for minor updates.

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Bug alert for the Space Vikings v.0.92:
I named one of the AI files wrong (again). Doh! The speech file is named vikings_speech.txt instead of vikings_AI_Speech.txt. This will not produce an error and the AI will work just fine, but you won't get all the nice Viking speech dogscoff and myself made up. For your full enjoyment of the Vikings you should rename that file http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif.

Thank you for your attention,
Rollo

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I have posted an AI update for the Vikings in the mod section.

Rollo

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And for those people who always want to be up-to-date. Here is another Viking AI patch.
Version 0.94a

Rollo

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I downloaded the vikes and got the generit shipset that comes with the game Could someone explain that please?

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Easy. I haven't finished the "proper" images yet. Be patient my friend, I hope to have them finished by November.

You can get an idea of what the vikings will look like at my webspace. Click the link on my .sig.

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I have posted a new Version of the Space Vikings in the mod archive http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/ima...ons/icon10.gif.

Major graphical update (all ships and units) and much better AI to work under SE4 Version1.49.

Features: extra ship pictures for special ship sizes (Battlemoon). The AI will invade planets with troops and uses some other unconventional tactics.

As this is a pre-CD release Version, any comments and especially bug reports are more than welcome.

Have fun and remember: "Beer planets are best!" http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif.

Dogscoff & Rollo

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Dogscof,
I like how the pictures look now "offically" painted. Love the new ones.

Most pictures in your web site don't work...

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I like http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif.

Will have to add on to my next test game. (or real game for that matter.)

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This set is another must have for my collection. http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif

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New Age Ship Yards

"We've made too many compromises already, too many retreats! They invade our space and we fall back -- they assimilate entire worlds and we fall back! Not again! The line must be drawn here -- this far, no further! And I will make them pay for what they've done!" -- Captain Picard STNG

Borg Breen Species 8472 Cardassian Dominion STNG Ferengi Klingon Romulan
Trek Movie era TOS Illuminati Starwolf Rogue Fleet SS Tutorial

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The broken links on the website are deliberate. I didn't want to spoil this release by making all the images available too early.

I'll be updating the website soon. Also, you may have noticed a readme.htm file in the zip alongside the readme.txt - it's a good way of viewing the shipset.

I'm hoping to update the images again before the CD burn - there's still lots of work to do.

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That is one nice looking shipset, what programs did you use?

On a scale of one to cool, that shipset is freakin awesome....

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Thanks, they may look nice but wait 'til you play the AI- it's a right vicious b@stard=-) It was all drawn pixel by pixel in paintshop pro. Details at the official space viking homepage.

I updated the site Last night BTW, so most of the images are up. Hoping to upload the remainder tonight.


Keep your eyes open for new updates- there's loads of stuff to go in yet.

Oh, and Zero - how's your mod coming along? I haven't seen any updates on your site in a while. I noticed you're using the starbase image for your megaship & megabase hulls - why not use the battlemoon ones? There is a generic image in S_J's pirates mod for those races that don't supply their own. Please take a look at the "non-standard images" thread before changing your mod though.

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[This message has been edited by dogscoff (edited 16 November 2001).]

[This message has been edited by dogscoff (edited 16 November 2001).]

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Very nice graphics! I really enjoyed the ground troops- very amusing http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif

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Hey dogscoff, just got your email.

I think I will use the battlemoon pic. I just updated my webpage with a new Version of my mod. It just adds a few things, I don't have a whole lot of time to work on it right now.

I thought you might have created those images by hand. I feel inspired, maybe I'll do a hand drawn shipset. Ahhh, but where to find the time. Hmmmm... Well, I'm off to shoplift some clocks.

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Captain, I found your pants.

[This message has been edited by ZeroAdunn (edited 19 November 2001).]

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Good news about the battlemoon. Did you look at the other thread? We are still deciding what filename to use for the battlemoon images, so wait for a conclusion on that before changing your vehiclesize.txt or you might find that your mod isn't comaptible.

There's a lot to be said for hand-drawn. Sure, 3D is great for ships, but when it comes to things like racial portraits and ground based images, I think hand drawn is best. Perhap a "hybrid" shipset would be bset.

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bump

Just because the attachments aren't working at the moment.

Here is the latest Version of the Vikings.

Not a new Version still 0.96 (pre-CD-release).

I hope this is working. If not, there is always Dogscoff's Official home of the Space Vikings.

Rollo

edit: typo

[ 24 November 2001: Message edited by: Rollo ]</p>

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A link to the old (pre shrapnel Boards overhaul) thread, for the nostalgic among us (Not just to bump my favourite thread, honest=-)

Old thread.

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Damn... this thread had slipped all the way back to the third page http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif I guess that means I'm not doing enough Viking stuff...

Anyway, Version 0.97 is available on my website. I wish I could post it to the forums, but I still have the "File Uploading is not allowed in this forum." message when I post http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

If I can't post to the "definitive" thread, how do I get this latest Version onto the Gold CD?

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E-mail it to me or Mephisto. Since the Space Vikings are part of the TDM-ModPack, please forward any more updates to either of us as well b/c this makes consolidation and tracking a lot easier on us!

Thanks
-TG

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OK, will do.

Umm... your email address isn't in your profile. If you mail me on dogscoff@altavista.co.uk I'll reply with the latest Vikings attached.

So if the Vikings are part of TDM I won't have to worry about inclusion. Neat=-)


EDIT: Don't know my own email address. Duh.

[ 06 December 2001: Message edited by: dogscoff ]</p>

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Hey Dogscoff,
will you be able to do any graphics within the next 24 - 48 hours. If yes, I will hold off sending in the Vikings and will mail them to Tampa on Sunday. If no, I will send them to Mephisto today, so they'll be part of the Modpack.
Up to you.

Rollo

edit: sorry to contact and bug you in this way, but I thought you might be able to reply faster than by email.

[ 14 December 2001: Message edited by: Rollo ]</p>

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Yes! I have no time tonight but hopefully tomorrow (Saturday) morning / afternoon I will be able to colour the mining ship and maybe I can get the new large transport and new small troop coloured as well.

(Old large transport &gt; barge and old small troop &gt; Infantry)

And you were right, contacting me like this is a good way of getting my attention, although in future my forum time wil be greatly reduced=-(

So yes, given another 24 hours from this post I can almost guarantee at least 2 more images. Maybe 3. Maybe more?

Why can't I ever get things done on time?

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Okay, fine.

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Hey Dogscoff,
any more pics coming? I'll be up another hour or so. If you have any more graphical tweaks, please send them to me. I will start putting the stuff together and send it in soon. Also check your email.

Cheers,
Rollo

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Just to let everyone (Especially those of you who contact me by personal email) know that my home internet connection is currently screwed http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon8.gif
&*^$!!!ing windows.

Until I get time to restore it (Looks like a re-install might be necessary) I won't be doing any web page updates, mutltiplayer (I wanted to take part in the translatlantic showdown too http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif ) or emails.

I'm surruptitiously posting this in work hours but after tomorrow the office is closed for xmas and I will be reliant on my poorly modem.

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Back... Full re-install was necessary.

Bloody Windoze...

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OK... new Vikings are out.

From now on, Viking releases will be split into Vikings Classic (For 1.49) and Vikings Gold for obvious reasons.

So... Vikings classic 1.00 is now available. There are some new graphics on there (the same graphics that went out on the CD) but the AI files are the same as the Last release.

Can't be arsed to upload it to the forum just now, sorry. You'll have to go to my website (See .sig file)

Later=-)

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*bump*

Did anyone download this? What do you think?
I'd like some feedback on the new small troop.