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Foodstamp February 4th, 2007 10:24 PM

Re: foodstamp
 
Huzurdaddi, let's tone down on the name calling a bit. Frank Trollman is a decent guy and a good player, and does not deserve some of the stuff your throwing at him.

As far as how you feel about me. I could care less. You can insult me until your fingers fall off and it will not phase me. That is one of the perks of being heartless and evil.

I recommend you save and channel your anger towards me in the game, if I am able to get in /Fingers crossed http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

KissBlade February 4th, 2007 10:36 PM

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Quote:

Foodstamp said:
Huzurdaddi, let's tone down on the name calling a bit. Frank Trollman is a decent guy and a good player, and does not deserve some of the stuff your throwing at him.

As far as how you feel about me. I could care less. You can insult me until your fingers fall off and it will not phase me. That is one of the perks of being heartless and evil.

I recommend you save and channel your anger towards me in the game, if I am able to get in /Fingers crossed http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Since you pretty much profess to being an [censored], I don't know what your claim of "decent guy" really amounts to. And as for being a good player, I highly doubt that considering his post content.

Xox February 4th, 2007 10:37 PM

Hate the mod , not the player!
 
Lets just let the host decide and leave it at that.

That way if someone doesn't like the setup, they just don't play that game and wait for a game start more to their liking.

If you hate a mod that much though you should not get into the game when there is a chance it might be a part of that game. Pretty obvious.

We can discuss merits of the various mods on the appropriate threads, hopefully without attacking personally the people who take the time to make these mods ( and maps) for all of us.

Foodstamp February 4th, 2007 10:44 PM

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Kissblade,

When your an agent of evil, you have a knack for picking out the decent people and marking them for destruction. That is how I am able to discern that he is a nice guy.

As far as you calling me names that require a [censored], and Huzurdaddi insinuating things about me, I chalk that up to the anonymity of the internet.

The internet is the perfect medium for cowards to lament and slander other people. I doubt you would say whatever your [censored] remark is to my face if we were in the same room, and I doubt Huzurdaddi would talk to Frank Trollman face to face in such a fashion if they were within a few feet of one another. That is why I take what you say with a grain of salt.

Lighten up and remember why we are here, to discuss dominions and try to set up multiplayer games.

KissBlade February 4th, 2007 10:47 PM

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If I was in any wish to disguise who or how I am on the internet, I wouldn't use my real life pic as my avatar. =P And censored was just calling you an *** mixed with another word anyway. Which is what you admitted to. As for using the internet as a medium for cowards to make themselves look big, I'm always amused by someone tossing this term out because quite often it's usually just pointing the finger at themselves.

quantum_mechani February 4th, 2007 10:56 PM

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I would just like to point out that charges of 'CB is buggy and broken' seem to be based on beta versions, rather than 1.0. I am not in fact aware of any bugs that have been reported for version 1.0, and it even fixes a couple of minor base game bugs.

On the subject of the supposed overbalanced bless pretenders, as has been pointed out, the paths like blood and death have very poor effects compared to those like water and fire. Further, the boosts to the pretenders are very hard to use while also making use of a high bless, the intention with the changes is to open up new strategic options for the chassises.

I'd also like to point out, that while veteran players have voiced various annoyances with CB, they almost universally fall into the category of 'finding a change annoying/disruptive to a particular strategy' as opposed to 'creates a major imbalance', as some in this thread seem to imply.

Foodstamp February 4th, 2007 11:03 PM

Re: foodstamp
 
Kissblade,

If that is your real life pic, I can guarantee you will only call me names from the safety of the internet.

As far as me being evil or whatever. I figured the sarcasm would be obvious since it was in response to Huzurdaddi telling me that the forum hates me or whatever else he was insinuating.

In game and on these forums I have been atleast as helpful as anyone else and I refuse to lower myself to the white trash level of name calling to get my point across that some of you deem appropriate to defend and/or criticize a stupid mod.

The bottom line is this. If you like the mod, play with it. If you don't like the mod, don't play games with it.

If it is going to make your Epeen bigger, keep calling me names for all I care, you have no insight into my life beyond these forums. And I guarantee it will not anger me, so keep them coming!

KissBlade February 4th, 2007 11:08 PM

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Quote:

Foodstamp said:
Kissblade,

If that is your real life pic, I can guarantee you will only call me names from the safety of the internet.


Who's exactly using the safety of the internet and stroking their epenis with a post like that?

You'll note I have called you no names in any of my posts. Except that I have pointed out you ADMIT to being an *** and thus your opinion of anyone being a "decent guy" isn't regarded as highly. As for your assumption, you can make it as you will. As I've said, personally I find it more ironic that you attempt to make statements to make YOUR "epenis" seem bigger since you're the one making all these assertions about everyone else's personal life. If you assume you won't get the same reaction from people to things you say if you said them offline, then you need to go outside more.

KissBlade February 4th, 2007 11:09 PM

Re: foodstamp
 
double post ...

Izzyz February 4th, 2007 11:10 PM

Re: foodstamp
 
Way to go on respecting the host's wish for civility, guys. As per Sheap:

Tip 1: Code of personal conduct.
1) Don't berate the other players.
2) Do remember to draw a clear distinction between your in-game (role playing) persona and your out of game self. This is especially important if you are planning on lying and backstabbing.
3) Keep the wall between the game and the forums/real world. Someone can be a colossal jerk in the game without being one in reality. As long as they follow rule #2, this is perfectly fine.

While Frank's opinion could have been stated (much) more diplomatically, calling on him to shoot himself in the face is way over the top. He gets my kudos for not responding in kind. And as for his caliber of play, I should point out that another thread just voted him the most dangerous player on the forum.

KissBlade February 4th, 2007 11:13 PM

Re: foodstamp
 
Quote:

Izzyz said:
While Frank's opinion could have been stated (much) more diplomatically, calling on him to shoot himself in the face is way over the top. He gets my kudos for not responding in kind. And as for his caliber of play, I should point out that another thread just voted him the most dangerous player on the forum.

Should I point out that those players (no disrespect to them) who voted for him are not vets and 2) many people who are decidedly NOT dangerous players are also voted in that threat?

Foodstamp February 4th, 2007 11:19 PM

Re: foodstamp
 
When you take what I said and change it to your explicit comment, that is name calling. When Huzzurdaddi directs personal insults at Frank Trollman, that is name calling.

As far as assumptions into your personal life or anyone elses, I have not made any. I have only responded to the insults thrown my way.

But I will summarize what your problem with me is. You got a case of the internet red-*** because you and huzur thought you could rip some guy to shreds with personal attacks because he did not like a mod you liked.

Frank Trollman knew when he posted what he thought of the CB mod, that he was insulting the creator, just like you guys stooped to name calling to defend it.

I don't think what Frank done is right because I am sure QM put alot of work into the mod, and people who create mods do not deserve to be insulted.

But what is equally wrong, is calling someone a poopoo face in defense of a mod, its just a mod ffs. Next time maybe the CB fan club can give us reasons as to why the mod is good and should be considered, instead of being a couple of E-thugs.

KissBlade February 4th, 2007 11:23 PM

Re: foodstamp
 
Quote:

Foodstamp said:
As far as assumptions into your personal life or anyone elses, I have not made any. I have only responded to the insults thrown my way.

But I will summarize what your problem with me is. You got a case of the internet red-*** because you and huzur thought you could rip some guy to shreds with personal attacks because he did not like a mod you liked.


Pot. Kettle. Black.

I have pointed out many fronts in his argument that was flawed. And I find your vaunted claims to "diffuse the thread" pretty laughable since it was only till you started posting that the topic got derailed so much. If you have anything actually noteworthy of a clue left to post that isn't an obvious attempt to troll me further then you can take it to the pm. If you actually took the time to read this than maybe you'd actually have a point of debate. In fact, let me toss out a personal attack on you so you actually have something to work with. You seem pretty illiterate since you haven't actually seem to read anything that was written in this thread, including your own posts. Otherwise you won't be babbling so much nonsense.

Evilhomer February 4th, 2007 11:24 PM

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Reasons why it should be considered:

1. Now the majority of spells can be useful instead of just a small percentage (yes even farstrike ect are decent now)

2. Super-imbalanced nations like helheim/niefelheim has been toned down, while weak nations have gotten a small boost (this is the best part in my opinion).

3. Alot of new tactics/pretenders have become viable that were just bad choices before.

4. Value of scales. Yes no more automatic order 3, misfortune 2 autopicks.

Also, the the anti-cb side has made no valid point (no the argument that the blood fountain, oracle and the lich being some form of uber bless chassis now is just plain wrong).

quantum_mechani February 4th, 2007 11:25 PM

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I have to agree that thread would have better been titled 'Most Dangerous Players to Play In Games On The Forum In The Last Few Months'. It was sad to see not even a mention of reknowned players like Archeo, Zen, Alexti, or Caine.

Foodstamp February 4th, 2007 11:32 PM

Re: foodstamp
 
Kissblade, I have to agree with you. I must be illiterate because I could not find one instance of you explaining why the CB mod is good in this thread beyond just insulting someone else's ability to play Dominions 3.

KissBlade February 4th, 2007 11:35 PM

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Quote:

Foodstamp said:
Kissblade, I have to agree with you. I must be illiterate because I could not find one instance of you explaining why the CB mod is good in this thread beyond just insulting someone else's ability to play Dominions 3.

So you didn't notice the part where I said that cb offers a lot less in leeway of "free scale points" than vanilla? I can't say I'm surprised with this development.

Foodstamp February 4th, 2007 11:40 PM

Re: foodstamp
 
You mean when you said this?

Quote:


Nice. Perhaps next time you should consider playing with it before commenting on it being a phenomenal "waste of time". Especially considering your completely ignorant remark on the usefulness of those chassis as bless. If you paid any attention to cb mod at all, perhaps you'd like to find the points for these triple blesses you are speaking of. Not to mention Fountain of Blood and master Lich are awful bless chassis. As for anyone talking about master lich being a good rainbow, I'll duel anyone in a best of three series, you pick master lich. Lastly, your manner leaves room for desiring. As for your chariot archers stopping dual blessed HelHerdlings with Sulphur Haze, you were playing noobs. Bye.


I am going to be honest with you. It is very hard for me to get through all the insults to find anything supporting the CB mod in that post.

KissBlade February 4th, 2007 11:45 PM

Re: foodstamp
 
You're right. Looking over it, I pretty much wasn't clear in my intent. CB balances the scales a LOT more than base game. In base game, the only scale you need to take is Order 3, you can fudge most other scales such as sloth 3, death 3, temp scales, drain 2, misfortune 2 from Order 3 alone to fund a triple bless. CB doesn't really allow this. Also, most ideal triple bless pretender chassis in CB (Mother of Rivers, cyclops, etc) are too expensive to actually fund a triple bless without killing your economy. This is what I meant to illustrating by saying "If you paid any attention to cb mod at all, perhaps you'd like to find the points for these triple blesses you are speaking of". As for the rest of the post, it was pretty much refuting his claims of those three pretenders as bless worthy chassis. The only one that really serves the purpose is Oracle, and only VERY VERY nichely.

Foodstamp February 4th, 2007 11:49 PM

Re: foodstamp
 
That post was pretty much insulting his ability to play the game. If you would have responded with the one you just posted instead, it could have probably saved us alot of insults and Huzur jumping on your "kick someone while they are being picked on" bandwagon.

KissBlade February 4th, 2007 11:52 PM

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Quote:

Foodstamp said:
That post was pretty much insulting his ability to play the game. If you would have responded with the one you just posted instead, it could have probably saved us alot of insults and Huzur jumping on your "kick someone while they are being picked on" bandwagon.

My post was independent of anyone else's post, so I'm not sure where your bandwagon comment came from. If anyone, I only posted to stop the anti -CB mod bandwagon that already seemed forming thanks to this misinformation. And if you looked at my post, it was mostly directed at him not playing with the mod before critiquing it.

Hellboy February 5th, 2007 12:04 AM

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This is just plain and simple astounding. I go off to watch the superbowl, and the thread is totally trashed! 43 new posts since before the superbowl began - talk about thread hijacking!!!

I'm closing this thread and starting a new one (but I will keep game slot reservations in place) I do notice that 90+% of the spam in this thread is not done by anyone actually playing in the game this thread was intended to open. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/mad.gif

KissBlade February 5th, 2007 12:09 AM

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Actually I was intending to sign up till I noticed it wasn't cb modded and all the good nations were taken and I didn't feel like spending many months with EA Ryleh =\.

Reverend Zombie February 5th, 2007 01:04 AM

Re: The Middle Way - Faerun EA [Recruiting]
 
I'd like in as Oceania, if there's room when the smoke clears.

Gandalf Parker February 5th, 2007 02:40 AM

Re: The Middle Way - Faerun EA [Recruiting]
 
If this thread had been pointed out to me earlier I would have done something.

Let me point out now that if you shift from discussing the subject, to discussing each other, then you endanger the thread. It will be edited, locked, hidden, or deleted.

Continue doing so as a habit and you endanger your login.


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