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Burnsaber March 10th, 2009 11:39 AM

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That does sound a lot better. Much more sinister than "it's a gunpowder weapon". Once you happen to release a playable version, you can expect some feedback from me.

Sombre March 10th, 2009 12:46 PM

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Very cool. My only concern is they might be a bit small. Warhammer dwarfs are short but pretty wide, definitely size 2. Put them next to a human and see.

I was planning on doing Chaos Dwarfs myself, but god knows when I actually would. I even wrote a doc for them in advance, maybe I'll post it up later. Basically I replaced all the gunpowder style weapons - the deathrocket and the earthshaker I took out entirely and the blunderbuss I turned into a grenadier throwing handfuls of spiked balls that explode into fire, with a banefire version summonable.

I had planned on extending them a lot, since they were quite bare as an army list and dom3 gives a lot of scope for expanding them with religion etc. The most important thing to get right imo is the feel of the nation - expensive but excellent dwarfs, powerful earth/fire magic and expendable slaves. Chaos Dwarfs are the #1 slavers in the warhammer world, ahead of even Dark Elves I believe and are also extremely mercenary, dealing with greenskins, ogres and chaos in arms, magic etc.

rdonj March 10th, 2009 04:28 PM

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If you're going to be using greenskins in the mod, you might want to check in with Okin. He was working on a greenskin nation, and you might be able to borrow some sprites from him to help you along. You might want to change them a little to differentiate them, but they would be good base sprites to work from if nothing else, and it would add a bit of continuity to the feel of them to have the sprites built similarly, if Okin ever finishes his project anyway ;)

Ruefiesty September 5th, 2009 04:09 AM

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I had started a little project for the warhammer nations. With all the compatibility issues that have arose and I will admit after adding the Bretonnian updated mod in I have been noticing conflicts that I didn't have before strangely they were between the Lizard and Chaos. So I got thinking why not make a standard with the nations and dedicate certain numbers to each race.
I have already started and I have decided at the moment to give each nation 60 slots with a 10 slot gap between the start of the next

example Skaven would have 2300-2360 when the Ogre Kingdoms will go at 2370-2430.
and I have gone through this with the rest too
Units 60 + 10 gap
Weapons 30 + 10 gap
Armor 20 + 10 gap
Sites 5 + 5 gap

I also have given the nations a number from the list that was made at the start of this thread.

thats all I have worked up on so far. I dont even know if this will really work as I am quite new to modding anything even if its just rearranging everything in a more orderly fashion.
any suggestions would be helpful

Burnsaber September 25th, 2009 05:41 AM

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There is now a compiled version of the Warhammer mods, which includes Bretonnia, Ogres, Tomb Kigs, Skaven, Lizardmen and Chaos (with heavy alterations to promote MP balance), and CBM 1.6 mods rolled into one single mod. Thanks to Dr.P for the actual compiling work. If you run into any bugs, alert me. Download from here

Radio_Star September 27th, 2009 11:31 AM

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I was looking over the new Chaos build linked here and noticed that the Demon Prince hero and the Unclean One have no chest slot, but also no default armor. Also, the Bloodthirster description seems to indicate that it autocasts Darkness, a la Mandahas, which it does not. WAD?

Squirrelloid September 28th, 2009 12:56 AM

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The Demon Prince hero should probably have chaos armor. The Unclean One is almost certainly WAD.

Fantomen October 4th, 2009 05:58 PM

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I got inspired by burnsabers beautiful dwarf sprites and wanted to try myself. Came up with a decent base model for orks which might be useful to someone so I´m putting it up here.

Fantomen October 4th, 2009 07:09 PM

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Two more variants

BandarLover October 4th, 2009 11:41 PM

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Why aren't you doing this mod yourself...seriously, those are awesome!! And I love me some orcs.

Fantomen October 5th, 2009 03:47 AM

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I´m not sure I have the time and devotion to complete a mod.

I thought about it and decided I´ll just make sprites for now. If I end up with a complete set of sprites I might do some code as well.

Anyone who wants to help me writing the mod is welcome to pm me, that would motivate me to complete the sprites. I also read somewhere that there was already a greenskin mod under way, but I can´t seem to find it.

BandarLover October 5th, 2009 09:49 AM

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There is a Greenskin mod thread out there with a handful of sprites but as far as I know it has been dead for a while now. I'm tempted to take you up on the offer,Fantomen, because I'm expecting to be laid off at work within a month or 2 and if that happens, I suddenly have free time. Sprites have been the most difficult part of modding for me anyways and you do a very good job on them it appears to me.

Fantomen October 5th, 2009 12:01 PM

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Sounds good. I´ll keep doing some sprites and you just keep me updated whether you´re doing some code or not.

Burnsaber October 5th, 2009 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Fantomen (Post 713337)
I got inspired by burnsabers beautiful dwarf sprites and wanted to try myself. Came up with a decent base model for orks which might be useful to someone so I´m putting it up here.

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Originally Posted by Fantomen (Post 713348)
Two more variants

I'm honored that my sprites have served as a inspiration. Those sprites are pretty good. I'd love to see more. I'd perhaps make them a bit wider from upperbody and make the legs a pixel taller (unless they're already bigger than humans, it's hard to tell without a comparison sprite). The lags also look a tad akward, but making the skirts a pixel wider from left should do the trick.

I'd love to see some Orcs. My dwarfs have many grudges to avenge..

Fantomen October 5th, 2009 05:00 PM

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Yeah, they could use a little more work. It´s a draft mostly at this point. I´d also like to vary the pose for different units, especially savage orks.

They are bigger and buffer than humans already, I don´t think I want them even wider or more muscular. I´d like a more realistic look than the WH models. Sure the heroes and big ´uns will be a bit bigger, like the WH lore states greenskins are ranked by their size and fighting skills.

I´ll look into your suggestion regarding the legs too.


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