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CelestialGoblyn July 1st, 2007 11:40 AM

Re: SmokyBat - Newbie game - Space for one more
 
Sent.

Shuma July 1st, 2007 05:57 PM

Re: SmokyBat - Newbie game - Space for one more
 
Uploaded.

PurpleRhino July 1st, 2007 06:37 PM

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Still time to get in on the game?
I noticed Machaka wasn't taken (or sent in at least)...

Chantillary_of_Kerisdale July 1st, 2007 06:51 PM

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Sent (no confirmation message returned, so if you didn't get it...

llamabeast July 1st, 2007 07:16 PM

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Hi PurpleRhino,

Sorry, just reached 14 players, which I think is as many as can really fit on Cradle of Dominion. I will start up a new newbie game in a week or so though - it'll be early age next time I think. You'd be very welcome to join that.

Chantillary - your e-mail killed the server! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif Um, I have no idea how. The 'MIME' module I'm using just said 'Don't know how to decode x-uuencode', which unfortunately means nothing to me. Um, do you have another e-mail address you can use? Anyway, I can add your pretender manually, and I'll start the game shortly.

lch July 1st, 2007 07:40 PM

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UUencode is one of the oldest encoding algorithms in IT. It's still very heavily used in Usenet, for example. I don't know what you use for programming, but there should be something which let's you encode and decode the data, PHP has functions for that built-in (convert_uuencode / convert_uudecode). For the man pages to the command line equivalents, see
http://opengroup.org/onlinepubs/0079.../uuencode.html
http://opengroup.org/onlinepubs/0079.../uudecode.html

llamabeast July 1st, 2007 07:43 PM

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Thanks lch, that's a really useful starter.

llamabeast July 1st, 2007 07:58 PM

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Okay guys, the game is starting!

The first turn has 48 hours on the timer, in case there are any problems. Subsequent turns will have 24 hours, i.e. the game will host 24 hours after the last hosting, or when all 14 turns are in, whichever is sooner.

Good luck! Let me know if there are any problems.

llamabeast July 1st, 2007 08:07 PM

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Ooh whoops, problem!

It looks like Atlantis and R'lyeh must have designed their pretenders while using a mod that affects pretender costs - almost certainly the Conceptual Balance mod (or alternatively the Mythology mod).

So everyone please ignore this turn since we will do a restart, and Atlantis and R'lyeh please send in new pretenders, making sure all mods are off (technically you should have the same mods on as the game you're joining, so worthy heroes should be on, but it doesn't affect pretenders so doesn't matter).

Aristander July 1st, 2007 08:14 PM

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I currently have Worthy Heroes 1.7b and Blessing Hotfix enabled. That is it. I will turn them off and resubmit my pretender.

R'lyeh

llamabeast July 1st, 2007 08:24 PM

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Really? That is very strange indeed. Hmm.

Aristander July 1st, 2007 08:30 PM

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Well, turning the mod's off did make a difference in points.
I do not really understand it.

Chantillary_of_Kerisdale July 1st, 2007 08:32 PM

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Well, as I've not installed any mods (that I know of -- when I check Mod Preferences, all I've got is an Exit Button), I was going to ask where to go to get these mods. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Do you still need me to resubmit?

Aristander July 1st, 2007 08:40 PM

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Very strange. I re-enabled the two mods (worthy Heros 1.7b and Blessing Hotfix. I then made a pretender.

No difference that I could find, same as unmoded. All I can think is that I restarted Dominions a few times while in the process of originally creating the pretender.

Aristander July 1st, 2007 08:44 PM

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Mods are on the Dominions 3 Mods forum. Just download and put in your Dominions mods folder. Start Dominions 3. Select preferences. Select mod preferences. select mod or mods to enable.

llamabeast July 1st, 2007 08:48 PM

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Also I've attached the worthy heroes mod somewhere in this thread I think. I wasn't planning on using the Blessing Hotfix, because I don't think any of the players have sacred undead.

llamabeast July 1st, 2007 08:53 PM

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Okay guys, I've just done some tests - I started the game three times using the same pretender for Atlantis and Aristander's resent pretender. Twice it worked, twice it gave the error. Seems like a bug in dominions or something to me - really really odd in any case.

So I will just start it again and hope it works I think.

Lazy_Perfectionist July 1st, 2007 09:03 PM

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This is a really interesting map, a little more strategically complicated than it looks at first glance. I'll have to pay attention to all those bridges.

Atreides July 1st, 2007 09:04 PM

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Just curious about this weird thing happening with me. I had worthy heroes installed already, but for some reason my file was 1.7 rather than 1_7. So I downloaded the file Llamabeast attached, but I was wondering if there is any difference between the two, or if it has simply been renamed.

llamabeast July 1st, 2007 09:21 PM

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Gah! Much agony and two restarts later, I think we are fixed. Please use the turn that was "resent" to you (should be the only one without cheating messages, unless I have got confused, which is entirely possible).

Exceptionally weird error. I started the game exactly the same every time. Sometimes it gave an error, sometimes not. I actually think it is a dominions bug (which I don't say lightly), I will report it when I get a chance.

Atreides - that's probably just either me mistyping the name or something when I was making my zip, or someone else mistyping something at some point. The files will be exactly the same.

Chantillary_of_Kerisdale July 1st, 2007 09:51 PM

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I think you might've gotten confused.

Without the Heroes mod installed, the turn won't start.

With it installed, but not turned on, the turn will start and turn the mod on without asking permission.

I think, if people are going to be creating pretenders without this mod being active, the best thing to do is to (short term) rename the appropriate .dm file with another (additional) extension (like .backup) so the game does not recognize it as being valid for its use.

llamabeast July 1st, 2007 09:56 PM

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Erm, I don't understand that last bit, Chantillary (the first stuff is correct though, but I'm not actually sure who you're answering). What problem are you trying to solve?

When making pretenders mods don't actually matter, apart from the two mods which affect pretender design (CBM and Mythology).

I originally thought our problems with starting the game were due to you and Aristander using mods, but they weren't at all in fact - rather they were just inexplicable!

Dallan_Invictus July 1st, 2007 09:56 PM

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Worthy Heroes supposedly doesn't affect pretenders, so it shouldn't be a problem to have it active to create. In any case, the game seems to be running. So, we can have at it. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Atreides July 1st, 2007 10:01 PM

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Sigh, had one of those perfect starting spots and we had to restart. I suppose I can dream of it happening again at some point in the future. Alright, lets get going!

llamabeast July 1st, 2007 10:03 PM

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Sorry Atreides! That sounds really frustrating.

Chantillary_of_Kerisdale July 1st, 2007 10:09 PM

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Sorry, I was trying to solve the problem of why my .trn file wouldn't work when I didn't have Heroes 1_7 installed.

And if it doesn't effect pretenders, when why would my game insist on it being present (and turning it on, when it is present) when I try to play a turn. Unless you had it on when you set the .trn file into motion. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

I'll run my turn and see if anything kicks back as being bad from it.

Atreides July 1st, 2007 10:10 PM

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No big deal Llamabeast, with my luck I would have gotten unrest in my capital second turn anyways http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Lazy_Perfectionist July 1st, 2007 11:05 PM

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Just wait until I get hit by two earthquakes.

Shuma July 1st, 2007 11:15 PM

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So which server and port do I connect to? llamaserver.net?

Dallan_Invictus July 1st, 2007 11:26 PM

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Nah, you should have gotten the turn file in the email you used to send your pretender. Grab the .trn file, put it in a subdir of your Dom3/savedgames directory (I used SmokyBat for the folder name, but it may not be absolutely necessary to do so), play the turn (the game name will be the same as the folder name), end the turn, take the .2h file from that folder and sent it back to the address the .trn file came from.

Repeat every turn until you're overrun. Or win. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

llamabeast July 2nd, 2007 06:38 AM

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Sorry, I somehow forgot to mention how to take your turns! But Dallan's exactly right.

Although Dallan, can I make a strange request please? Any chance you could mess up the e-mail address a bit (put [at] instead of @ or something)? Just because I don't want it getting harvested too much by spambots. Thanks!

Aristander July 2nd, 2007 10:40 AM

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I am going away to celebrate American Independence from July 4 - 7th. I will return on the 8th. Could we hold the game starting on the 4th?
Thanks

Aristander

Rally Mohawks, and bring your axes And tell King George we'll pay no taxes.
Saltwater Tea Anyone?

J Henry Waugh July 2nd, 2007 01:48 PM

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Unable to play… …getting message "The following mod needs to be installed: heroes1_7.dm"… …I don't know what that is, most of my Dom3 XP is just single player random map tinkering…

llamabeast July 2nd, 2007 01:50 PM

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Hiya,

The mod is attached to this post - just unzip it and put the files in your dominions3/mods folder. It just adds a few more heroes to the game, and makes existing ones generally a bit more useful.

Aristander July 3rd, 2007 09:38 PM

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Great Old Ones of vast power stir with a consciousness manifested in shapes and forms long since withdrawn before the rise of humanity.

That is not dead which can eternal lie,
And with strange eons even death may die.

Pyaray fhtagn

Dallan_Invictus July 3rd, 2007 09:57 PM

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Doesn't have quite the same oomph. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

Enjoy.

Lazy_Perfectionist July 3rd, 2007 11:35 PM

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Geeze. Everybody's proclaiming at the top of their lungs today. My mages can hear you even though we're going deaf due to pronounced old age. Well, at least I've got the mercenaries to help get around my resource issues. Anyone else bid on them?

Lazy_Perfectionist July 4th, 2007 12:04 AM

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There. Got my turn sent in. Quite an interesting little corner I find myself in. The independents are above average, and I wouldn't dare expand hadn't I hired those Mercenaries.

Remmy July 4th, 2007 12:23 AM

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My ultra-sweet pretender just blew through a 40 stack of heavy calvary first turn. Good start http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Lazy_Perfectionist July 4th, 2007 12:51 AM

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Hmmmm.... I'll have to keep an eye out for Crusha.
40 heavy cavalry is very impressive, and I'm dying to figure out what your pretender looks like so I can steal ideas.

My Pretender is still dormant, and I've had only one SC pretender that comes halfway near that performance. Think I could talk you into sharing, or will you hoard your secrets? I'll reciprocate with details on my pretender.

Memento July 4th, 2007 06:24 AM

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sorry for stalling the game, my internet symply said goodbye for two days
can anyone tell me where should I sent email and what topic should be?

llamabeast July 4th, 2007 06:31 AM

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Hey! Glad to see you Memento. Staling the first turn shouldn't be much of a setback hopefully, and Abysia is good at early expansion anyway.

You need to send your 2h file back to the address that sent you the trn file - turns[ at ]llamaserver[ dot ]net. And it doesn't matter what you put as the topic (I normally leave it blank to save time).

llamabeast July 4th, 2007 06:32 AM

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Here's a link to a little guide I did to playing your turns, in case you have any problems (should have linked this here before come to think of it).

Lazy_Perfectionist July 6th, 2007 04:18 PM

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The best laid plans are laid to waste by misfortune... ouch. I'm expanding, at least, but I planned to be near the top of research, not held back at only two researchers, massive unrest in my home province. I think I was way to aggressive with my negative scales.

I also see Pyaray the tentacled overlord (R'lyeh), and Pythium. Heres hoping my hideous scales discourage invasion.

Chantillary_of_Kerisdale July 6th, 2007 08:04 PM

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I'm seeing what I'm assuming is R'lyeth (I'm fairly certain that no land-based playewr has access to amphibious troops this early), and what I know is Man.

Had the bad luck to have the first land province I invade to be right next door to what I assume is his capitol, and 2 other subjugated provinced of his to either side. My commander and 9 of her 24 troops survived, and took out 29 of his 53 troops. Good thing Man didn't wait until next turn to attack -- I might've been unbeatable (as I was willing to sink all my funds for the turn into defence for the province. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif)

Schaedelbaron July 7th, 2007 07:18 AM

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All Hail Endiku who fought a fierce battle in the arena against..umm..several...umm...nonexsistent...enemi es and took victory home to C´tis. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

llamabeast July 9th, 2007 02:14 PM

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Hi guys,

I wonder if I could ask someone to volunteer to be the "admin" for this game? It's not much of a job at all - basically if someone asks for an extension to the timer you do it (via the llamaserver.net website, with the "admin options" link on the game page). You'll also have the ability to do other things like change the hosting interval or switch someone's e-mail address so a sub can take over, but these things will only come up very rarely.

I ask because (a) I'm going away for a week and a half on Wednesday, so won't be around to watch things, and (b) I'm quite keen to make sure every game has its own admin, so I don't have to keep careful tabs on all the game threads. I mean, I probably will anyway, but I want to make sure I don't let it become a job.

Just post here and I'll PM you the password. Thanks!

Atreides July 9th, 2007 03:13 PM

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I'll admin for this game Llamabeast. I think I'm one of the more veteran players (relatively speaking) in this game and I'm active in a lot of games currently so I check my e-mail and the boards a lot.

llamabeast July 9th, 2007 08:09 PM

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Brilliant! Thanks Atreides. I'll PM you the password.

Lazy_Perfectionist July 10th, 2007 01:03 PM

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I've gotten the second most useless hero ever-
(First going to a mage with heroic stupidity, of course) - a H1 Attendant of the Oracles with heroic toughness.


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