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fabio80mi October 30th, 2007 10:29 AM

Re: The Strategy Index
 
I don't want to sound impatient but it has been almost a month since your post about planned update, is there any news ? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

Thanks again for this thread

K January 5th, 2008 05:40 PM

Re: The Strategy Index
 
I've written a Lanka Strategy guide to be added to the list. link

Baalz January 21st, 2008 10:37 AM

Re: The Strategy Index
 
MA Atlantis guide:
Guide to MA Atlantis

Baalz January 24th, 2008 11:48 PM

Re: The Strategy Index
 
Guide to communions

Moritz Moeller-Herrmann February 21st, 2008 09:25 AM

Tir Na N\'OG ?
 
Does anyone know of a guide for the Irish?

Gregstrom February 22nd, 2008 07:27 AM

MA Pangaea
 
It's still having some fine detail put in, but the basics are all there.

MA Pangaea strategy guide

Baalz March 12th, 2008 08:32 PM

Re: MA Pangaea
 
Guide to MA Eriu

moderation March 21st, 2008 02:30 AM

Build Me an MA Ulm Thug
 
Here's two more useful looking posts to add:
*Build Me an MA Ulm Thug
*Thug Advice needed

kasnavada March 22nd, 2008 10:57 AM

Re: Build Me an MA Ulm Thug
 
This thread by dedas isn't here, I think it should.

http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/thr...amp;PHPSESSID=

Edi March 22nd, 2008 11:09 AM

Re: Build Me an MA Ulm Thug
 
The Strategy Index is about to get an overhaul in the near future.

Lazy Perfectionist has been inactive on the forums for some time and thus the Index has not been updated in a fair while. Valerius has taken an interest in it and asked me if we could do something and currently the plan is that he will recompile the Strategy Index using this thread as a basis and post a new thread with a link to this one. Once that is done, the thread will be unstickied and his thread will be stickied.

It might be worthwhile to retain this thread as the Strategy Index Discussion Thread much the same way the FAQ and Bug Shortlist are sticky threads and both have their own discussion threads. Helps keep things organized and uncluttered.

The precise timing of this coming overhaul has not been set, so it will happen in its own good time. For my part, I would just like to say that it is nice to see new people volunteering and stepping up to keep projects alive that have been suffering neglect due to the original person going temporarily MIA. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

sector24 March 22nd, 2008 06:42 PM

Re: Build Me an MA Ulm Thug
 
Valerius, I have 2 more guides (in my signature). Thanks for doing this!

Edi March 22nd, 2008 08:13 PM

Re: Build Me an MA Ulm Thug
 
All right, the new Strategy Index thread has been stickified and this one is thus relegated to the status of a discussion thread. I locked the sticky thread to prevent inadvertent posting in there.

Valerius, you should be able to edit your post there, since it's yours. If you can't, PM me or let me know here and I'll unlock it. I'm not sure if non-moderators can edit their own posts in locked threads. If they can't, I'll reopen the thread and any out of place comments that belong in this thread will be oppressed and their contents quoted here.

Aezeal March 22nd, 2008 09:37 PM

Re: Build Me an MA Ulm Thug
 
I'm not going to look for it by I once asked questions about midgard and got some nice answers, same for patala more recently.

you judge if it's sufficient to get a thread

Valerius March 23rd, 2008 12:48 AM

Re: Build Me an MA Ulm Thug
 
Thanks, sector24! I'll add your guides to the index.

Aezeal, I'll check for the posts you mentioned.

Edi, it looks like we'll have to unlock the thread since I can no longer edit it. Thanks.

Dedas March 23rd, 2008 02:30 AM

Re: Build Me an MA Ulm Thug
 
You might want to add this:
http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/thr...art=1&vc=1

Edi March 23rd, 2008 06:41 AM

Re: Build Me an MA Ulm Thug
 
Sticky thread unlocked. I'll keep it clean of clutter for you.

moderation March 30th, 2008 05:49 PM

Here\'s an MA Arco thread I found
 
MA Arco thread:

http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/thr...;Number=540542

kasnavada March 31st, 2008 05:19 AM

Re: Here\'s an MA Arco thread I found
 
http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/thr...o=&fpart=1

This one too. EA questions about pangaea VS archery, and a bit about rainbow pretender.

Valerius March 31st, 2008 04:44 PM

Re: Here\'s an MA Arco thread I found
 
Thanks, both of the above have been added.

Dedas March 31st, 2008 06:52 PM

Re: Build Me an MA Ulm Thug
 
Quote:

Dedas said:
You might want to add this:
http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/thr...art=1&vc=1

You still haven't added this. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Valerius April 1st, 2008 05:22 AM

Re: Build Me an MA Ulm Thug
 
Ok, this one is now in as well.

OoohSnap April 9th, 2008 12:44 AM

Re: Build Me an MA Ulm Thug
 
You might want to add this nice MA Arco Strategy Guide made by Twan:

http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/thr...o=&fpart=1

Valerius April 10th, 2008 02:14 AM

Re: Build Me an MA Ulm Thug
 
Arco guide has been added.

OoohSnap April 14th, 2008 02:58 AM

New Guides
 
Hey its me again! There are 2 new guides which are really nice which have just been added by Baalz and triqui respectively:

Guide to Marverni
http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/thr...o=&fpart=1

Royal Guide to Marignon, Conquerors of the Sea
http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/thr...o=&fpart=1

Lingchih April 14th, 2008 04:20 AM

Re: New Guides
 
Although they are included, you did not modify the main post to include Marverni and LA Marignon.

Valerius April 14th, 2008 04:35 AM

Re: New Guides
 
Thanks, I've got these two added as well.

sansanjuan April 14th, 2008 02:53 PM

Re: New Guides
 
Quote:

Lingchih said:
One of these days... I'm going to cut you into little pieces.

Pink Floyd

Had quite the disagreement over those lyrics years back. Someone argued they were just subliminal babble words like Charlie Brown's teachers make... Don't think he believed me even after I finally pointed him to a lyrics site. Great tune though.. awesome bass.

-SSJ

Edi June 24th, 2008 01:15 PM

Re: New Guides
 
I've updated the Dom3 DB and UORMM links in the Strategy index to point to the 3.17 versions.

Renojustin July 29th, 2008 06:28 AM

Re: New Guides
 
Submitted for your perusal pleasures, see signature.

Edi August 12th, 2008 09:19 AM

The sticky strategy index thread has been split into separate posts because the character limit per post is 10k characters and the index was nearly twice that, which meant it could not be edited. I have updated the link to this thread as well as some of the reference links to my own stuff, site searching threads and some other threads at the top of the list. The link to the HINNOM EATS EVERYTHING thread has also been updated, as well as those threads I noticed on the first few pages of the forum.

The editing restrictions on the forum also pose something of a major problem wrt maintaining the strategy index in its current form, since Valerius is not a mod and cannot edit his posts anymore after 30 minutes. So I and the other moderators must maintain the strategy index as a joint effort and also update the links to reflect the new forum format. I would REALLY appreciate it if one of the others took a larger role with the strategy index, as I have my work cut out for me just putting the bug shortlist back in shape.

Anyone who wishes to help with the strat index should use the search function to find the threads and then post an updated, formatted link in this thread so that we can simply replace it in the sticky thread. The number of links to go through is massive and finding them all is going to be fairly time-consuming if only one person is going to do it.

Edi August 12th, 2008 12:48 PM

Re: The Strategy Index
 
I'm going to use this evening to try and update the strategy index sticky, after which I will delete excess posts from it. I have a fair few threads known alredy, but due to the nature of the board's autolog-off, I'll be working on a text file for the time being. I will also fix the tags to use BB code, instead of HTML.

Please be patient. Restoring the Strategy index is currently the top priority for this forum, followed by the bug shortlist and modding wishes shortlist.

Kristoffer O August 12th, 2008 12:49 PM

Re: The Strategy Index
 
Ha!

Now I have used my power to thank!

Endoperez August 12th, 2008 04:20 PM

Re: The Strategy Index
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kristoffer O (Post 630316)
Ha!

Now I have used my power to thank!

Thanks for that! Now that I found the feature, I started going through various stickies (shortlists, server lists) and projects (llamaserver, conceptual balance, dom3database) and ticking the thank you -button. I think there also was a developer appreciation thread, I'll see if I can find that. :D

Edi August 12th, 2008 04:27 PM

Re: The Strategy Index
 
All Strategy Index links except one have been updated. The single link that has not been updated is marked as such and the reason is that it only had three letter words in the title, which means the search function won't find them because they are too short. If someone finds the "Any Man Advice" thread on the forum, kindly post the link here so it can be added.

I also added several new threads to the index that I found during my digging for the listed threads. Those are marked as new threads on August 12th.

You may now commence worshipping me. ;)

JimMorrison August 12th, 2008 04:29 PM

Re: The Strategy Index
 
Are you ready for your foot-bath, master Edi?

Baalz August 12th, 2008 04:51 PM

Re: The Strategy Index
 
Nevermind...

Edi August 12th, 2008 05:03 PM

Re: The Strategy Index
 
Nevermind me as well... :)

Kristoffer O August 12th, 2008 06:21 PM

Re: The Strategy Index
 
Edi, have you looked at the shortlist? It is in a sad state. I mentioned it briefly in the thread on forum discussion, but I'm not sure if Mindi has noticed. It would be good if the formating could be redone automatically, without you going through everything. I imagine I would not use it as it looks atm.

lch August 12th, 2008 06:36 PM

Re: The Strategy Index
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Edi (Post 630412)
If someone finds the "Any Man Advice" thread on the forum, kindly post the link here so it can be added.

I have searched for exactly that and instantly found it: http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=34294
Remember, use quotes if you are searching for a specific phrase.

Edi August 13th, 2008 01:56 AM

Re: The Strategy Index
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lch (Post 630512)
I have searched for exactly that and instantly found it: http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=34294
Remember, use quotes if you are searching for a specific phrase.

I did that with several threads, but it kept giving me flaky results or no results at all, so I lost interest in checking for things if I couldn't find them with some other keywords. That one was the only one I didn't eventually find. It took four and a half hours to find everything in any case.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kristoffer O (Post 630495)
Edi, have you looked at the shortlist? It is in a sad state. I mentioned it briefly in the thread on forum discussion, but I'm not sure if Mindi has noticed. It would be good if the formating could be redone automatically, without you going through everything. I imagine I would not use it as it looks atm.

Yes, I have. Both the bug shortlist and the modding wishes shortlist are next up for rehabilitation. It looks like the forum conversion just converted straight HTML and didn't do a good job of it either. So it probably needs a manual edit to add the list and color tags. The color tags are easy, they can be done with a straight find and replace, but I need to look at the list item issues first.

I'll do the unresolved sections first and then fix the resolved sections at a more leisurely pace. I just gave the strategy index a more immediate priority because it is widely used by almost everyone in the community. The FAQ formatting is on the list of things to do once the shortlists are good.

Edi August 13th, 2008 03:37 AM

Re: The Strategy Index
 
Good news on the bug shortlist: It's going to be a simple find & replace operation to fix it, since the only thing that did not transfer well was the beginning list tag. Those and color tags are just find and replace stuff, but we need a new color scheme so things are visible on this forum. I'll think one up.

lch August 13th, 2008 05:20 AM

Re: The Strategy Index
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Edi (Post 630644)
It looks like the forum conversion just converted straight HTML and didn't do a good job of it either.

That might be because the old forum software just placed HTML in some cases, or similar unusual constructs. Quotes got replaced by a combination of two or three tags which carried the visual representation on screen, for example, instead one sensible tag like the forum does now, which is only replaced in the rendering step of the page.

That you convert all the broken links by hand, yeah, crazy, I wouldn't lift a finger unless it can be done in a unified way with all the links simultaneously. Hopefully searching for text with quotation marks helps you a bit.

Edi August 13th, 2008 06:25 AM

Re: The Strategy Index
 
Yes, I did do everything by hand for the Strategy Index and the FAQ. As I said, I got flaky results with the strings in quotes. The individual shortlist entry links I'm not going to bother with because many of the threads are hard to find. They were not named in the links by thread title, as was the case with the strategy index. The index was important enough to go to the trouble, as was the FAQ. Cleaning up the shortlists will be a piece of cake to do by comparison.

Micah August 15th, 2008 04:00 PM

Re: The Strategy Index
 
Edi asked that I post this link here for possible inclusion in the strat index: http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showt...+rulebook+told

Link is to the manual errata thread I posted a while back, should be useful for newer players.

Edi September 15th, 2008 03:37 PM

Re: Strategy Index Discussion
 
Sorry about being such a slowpoke about adding that, but it's there now, Micah. I also added Gregstrom's Beginner's Guyide to Lanka.

Remember people, if something needs to be added to the Strategy Index, post about it here and the mods will see to it.

It may be worth trying if the index fits in one post, so Valerius can once more take the whole thing in hand.

AreaOfEffect September 17th, 2008 10:57 AM

Re: Strategy Index Discussion
 
After the fifth person labeled my prophet transformation breakdown as helpful, I decided to label the thread as a Guide. Enjoy the hard work of Edi and I.

Link: http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=40553

Valerius September 20th, 2008 12:59 PM

Re: Strategy Index Discussion
 
Edi, thanks for keeping the index updated. I'd be happy to take it over again if you think it makes sense.

It looks like the maximum characters per post if 25,000 so if we put all the links in one post we'll be able to add about 50% more links before reaching the character limit. Let me know if you think it worthwhile to do this.

Edi September 20th, 2008 04:41 PM

Re: Strategy Index Discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Valerius (Post 639296)
Edi, thanks for keeping the index updated. I'd be happy to take it over again if you think it makes sense.

It looks like the maximum characters per post if 25,000 so if we put all the links in one post we'll be able to add about 50% more links before reaching the character limit. Let me know if you think it worthwhile to do this.

Certainly it's worthwhile. I and all of the other mods would be most grateful to you if you took over it again. I'll go and put everything in the top post again and then let you have a free run of it.

As a suggestion, having the new tags be bolded will make them a bit more visible.

Edi September 20th, 2008 04:45 PM

Re: Strategy Index Discussion
 
All yours again, Valerius! :D

Valerius September 23rd, 2008 11:44 AM

Re: Strategy Index Discussion
 
Great, thanks! Just added some links Tifone sent over. I'll follow your suggestion of bolding new tags.


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