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narf poit chez BOOM November 13th, 2007 11:12 PM

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'then you may also need to lag everything to prevent condensation from causing similar problems'

- I'm not familar with that use of the word lag and others may not be, either.

Slick November 13th, 2007 11:21 PM

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In most mechanical lingo: lag = thermally insulate

AstralWanderer November 13th, 2007 11:22 PM

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Lag = slang for insulate.

narf poit chez BOOM November 14th, 2007 02:02 AM

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Thanks.

My Dad's found eight or nine definitions for 'Slew' and it's various...Word-alike-thingees.

Randallw November 14th, 2007 02:36 AM

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As far as I know slew means when a car pivots horizontally on a road. What might be called jack-knifing for trucks. Granted that involves pivotting at the join between trailers but hopefully you get the idea.

narf poit chez BOOM November 14th, 2007 04:20 AM

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It also applies to boats.

Another definition is the past form of slay.

That's all I can remember.

Renegade 13 November 14th, 2007 05:09 AM

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"Slew" can also mean a large number of some item. For example:

"He bought a whole slew of pig hearts yesterday."

Though I'm pretty sure it's regarded as slang when used in that context.

capnq November 15th, 2007 09:20 AM

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Quote:

narf poit chez BOOM said:My Dad's found eight or nine definitions for 'Slew' and it's various...Word-alike-thingees.

Synonyms, if you mean "means the same"; homonyms or homophones, if you mean "sounds the same".

narf poit chez BOOM November 15th, 2007 01:10 PM

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Words that are spelled the same but mean different things and words that sound the same but are spelled differently.

Fyron December 13th, 2007 04:00 AM

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Yet another nail in the latest AMD architecture's coffin today...

Xrati December 13th, 2007 02:32 PM

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So, they're still around. They must be doing something right to continue to survive... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif

GuyOfDoom December 13th, 2007 04:52 PM

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I always appreciate when a larger business admits to a stupid mistake. It's much better than passing the buck.

In terms of speed I'm not going to cry over 0.1 Ghz.

All I know is any computer company needs competition to keep prices down or you get the ridiculous prices of software such as Windows.....

Fyron December 13th, 2007 08:57 PM

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Yeah, man, $180 for the most expensive version is just too much to handle... Not to mention $110 for the version people actually need for home use. You want to talk about ridiculous, look at Photoshop, Quickbooks, any commercial rendering software...

narf poit chez BOOM December 14th, 2007 12:48 AM

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Because, of course, two to five times the cost of one single game for a whole operating system is absolutely horrible.

GuyOfDoom December 14th, 2007 01:27 AM

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Remind me to order a few "I heart Microsoft" t-shirts.... geesh.

Xrati December 14th, 2007 01:11 PM

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What's sad is the price on the old XP Home Edition w/SP2[/url] http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16837116193 $195. for the retail version! You don't think they are capitalizing on the marketing scheme of selling Vista and having everyone wanting XP? Another great marketing scheme even though it happened by mistake as Mickeysoft thought they were going to make a killing on Vista.

Fyron December 14th, 2007 01:43 PM

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The XP Home OEM version is only $90 though. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif Interstingly, there is a $20 price difference between XP Home Retail and Vista Home Premium Retail, just the same as between the OEM copies. Arbitrary price points, ahoy!

Of course, buying XP Home is like stabbing yourself in the eyes with a rusty nail, while being eaten alive by fire ants...

Xrati December 14th, 2007 01:53 PM

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Fyron, you know that the OEM version gets no support from Microsoft with it? Thus the cheaper price! The version I linked to and yours are the same. If you want support you'll have to buy the more expensive one, if not go for the cheaper one.

Of course, running Vista is like stabbing yourself in the eyes with a rusty nail that you used when you bought XP, while being eaten alive by fire ants that were decendants of the ones from XP... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif

Renegade 13 December 14th, 2007 05:51 PM

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How bad is Vista, with as unbiased an opinion as you guys can give me? (And please, don't recommend Linux or a Mac...not gonna happen)

Xrati December 14th, 2007 08:05 PM

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XP is not broke! Can't say the same for Vista. Vista does have Direct X10 abilities. OK, there you go... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/cool.gif

Fyron December 14th, 2007 08:12 PM

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Xrati:
What, support that costs $200 per incident? What's the point?

Renegade13:
Its actually rather solid; much more so than XP or any previous MS OS was after release. Some device manufacturers (eg: Nvidia) got off to a poor start with their drivers, but the situation has improved a lot since last January. There are some issues with DX8 and below games, though (like SE5). XP is good to keep around for older games. There are issues with things like network file transfer speeds and such, but they appear to be fixed in the SP1 release candidate. Most of the stuff you see on the 'net about Vista is just regurgitated FUD, however.

I wouldn't really advise buying it to upgrade your current computer, but there isn't much reason to avoid it for a new comp.

narf poit chez BOOM December 14th, 2007 10:59 PM

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There's people working on a Directx 10 port for XP.

capnq December 15th, 2007 08:26 AM

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Quote:

Renegade 13 said:
How bad is Vista, with as unbiased an opinion as you guys can give me?

The certified network analyst who sold me her used XP box because her job required her to upgrade her home system to Vista, hates Vista with a passion, and thinks XP is the best OS Microsoft ever produced.

That is as unbiased opinion as I can give you, because my opinion of both OSes and Microsoft isn't fit for a public forum.

Santiago December 15th, 2007 10:33 AM

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Vista is the new Windows ME. While it may have some good aspects, there are to many flavors and it's reputation is poor. Plug & Pray. Even for non-tech people, Vista=crap. It doesn't have an overall wow factor that users need to have. It'll go down as a brilliant marketing failure. Pass and wait for the next OS. Microsoft is driving people, universities and corporations to Mac and Linux, which may not be a bad thing at all.

Xrati December 15th, 2007 01:01 PM

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Fyron
Quote:

Xrati:
What, support that costs $200 per incident? What's the point?

Fyron, if you buy the $90. version of XP, don't count on calling Mickeysoft [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/icon37.gif[/img] for any help with your OS problem. It is the OEM software that (Dell or any other OEM) would purchase. You would then call (Dell/OEM) for support. The $90. XP version does not include support. Be very careful of what you recommend to people as some do not have the expertise you do, to handle OS problems. With the $190 XP version you can call Bill Gates (just kidding) http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif and get support with any of your problems. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

Fyron December 15th, 2007 02:12 PM

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Anybody building their own computer should be able to work out problems without resorting to $200+ per incident calls..

Xrati December 15th, 2007 04:27 PM

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People will always go with the cheaper price regardless of their situation, Human Nature being what it is. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif

capnq December 16th, 2007 01:30 PM

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A "review" comparing XP and Vista.

Fyron December 16th, 2007 01:58 PM

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Sounds like he had some fault hardware. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Santiago December 16th, 2007 03:20 PM

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Finally an honest review http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

MasterChiToes December 16th, 2007 03:43 PM

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Honest... my XP doesn't work that well. I have to end process repeatedly and wait 5 minutes for the process to be dumped... and single non-responsive applications are always hanging other apps.

Still, anything is better than a Mac.

Xrati December 16th, 2007 03:53 PM

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Quote:

Finally an honest review

I agree...

MasterChiToes, sounds like you just need to reboot to clear out your memory.

MasterChiToes December 16th, 2007 04:50 PM

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Quote:

Xrati said:
MasterChiToes, sounds like you just need to reboot to clear out your memory.

not a rebooting issue... unless, rebooting within a minute of a boot is acceptable. My point is XP isn't all sugar and spice... heck, when I click apply or ok in the "Task Bar and Start Menu" XP just lets that window hang for like 30 seconds... and clearing the document list or just closing the popup are not a massive tasks.

GuyOfDoom December 16th, 2007 06:08 PM

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Either needs a defrag or just a reinstall

Renegade 13 December 16th, 2007 06:17 PM

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Quote:

MasterChiToes said:
Still, anything is better than a Mac.

/agree

AstralWanderer December 17th, 2007 02:13 AM

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MasterChiToes said:
Honest... my XP doesn't work that well. I have to end process repeatedly and wait 5 minutes for the process to be dumped... and single non-responsive applications are always hanging other apps.


I'd vote for faulty hardware (disk, memory, etc). Have a look at your Windows Event Log (Start/Settings/Control Panel/Administrative Tools/Event Viewer) and check for any errors listed there.

Another possibility is malware or an incomplete uninstall of security software - in these cases a Windows reinstall would be the best option.

narf poit chez BOOM December 17th, 2007 05:07 AM

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I reinstalled XP and even after viruscan and spybot reinstall, it still boots in at least half the time.


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