Re: Allegiances 2 (Large Team-Based Game, RECRUITI
 

this sounds interesting, i'd like to play

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I have only ever played on the llamaserver, which I think is great. Does direct connect require any specific settings on my computer? I am talking firewalls, internet settings etc, because on occasion I have to get my turns in from a work or public computer where I might not control all settings. Other than that, I have no preferences as to what server we use (although as said before, happy experiences with the llamaserver).

Re: Allegiances 2 (Large Team-Based Game, RECRUITI
 

Let's try out Velusion's server, as people seem to be leaning towards that. Thanks for the offer, Velusion! Let me know what you need.

Let's go ahead and close up shop recruiting wise, and get things going. We have 14 players, so that gives us 7 teams. Dr. P you mentioned 16 players. Are there two that I'm missing? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

If everyone is cool with it, I will random assign teams like last time, and then we can decide if we want to bid or random assign the themes.

Dr. P feel free to start on the map now that we know the amount of players at your convenience.

Re: Allegiances 2 (Large Team-Based Game, RECRUITI
 

Go ahead and make the teams with some random approach of your choice....

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I need to know whether to put water on the map.

Re: Allegiances 2 (Large Team-Based Game, RECRUITI
 

you forgot tromper... we need one more for the eighth team http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Re: Allegiances 2 (Large Team-Based Game, RECRUITI
 

Once the assignments are made I'll give a location for players to upload their pretenders.

Re: Allegiances 2 (Large Team-Based Game, RECRUITI
 

No, Tromper PMed me and said he won't be able to join us. So, we are 7 teams. I will random assign teams in a few minutes, stay tuned...

Re: Allegiances 2 (Large Team-Based Game, RECRUITI
 

And the teams are...........

Team 1 - Dr. P, Micah
Team 2 - Carlosib, Parcelt
Team 3 - Baalz, Shovah32
Team 4 - Thrawn, Velusion
Team 5 - Archaeolept, EvilHomer
Team 6 - Folket, Snacktime
Team 7 - Janlm, DryaUnda

Just drew numbers from a coffee mug. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Now, I will random the themes, basically the same way. Draw a number 1-7 from one mug (for the team), then a number 1-9 from another mug (representing the theme).

Re: Allegiances 2 (Large Team-Based Game, RECRUITI
 

And the themes.......

TEAM 1. HAZY SHADE OF WINTER - Niefelheim + Ulm
Janlm, DryaUnda

TEAM 2. TOGA! TOGA! TOGA! - two of: Pangaea, Arcoscephale, Oceania, Atlantis
Thrawn, Velusion

TEAM 3. PYRAMID POWER - Mictlan + C'tis
Baalz, Shovah32

TEAM 4. DAWN OF EMPIRE - Sauromatia + Ermor
Carlosib, Parcelt

TEAM 5. ARE WE ON FIRE YET? - Abysia + Yomi
Folket, Snacktime

TEAM 6. GIBBERING ALL THE WAY - two of: Agartha, R'lyeh, Caelum
Dr. P, Micah

TEAM 7. DRUIDS ARE TOTALLY VIKINGS, RIGHT? - Helheim + Marverni
Archaeolept, EvilHomer

Re: Allegiances 2 (Large Team-Based Game, RECRUITI
 

And, there we have it. It's up to the two teammates to decide which nation they will play. Once you decide, post the result here. If you have the option of a water nation, post ASAP, as that will effect Dr. P's map making task.

Also, should we make a new rule that Baalz can't play Mictlan? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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Interesting. For the the two teams that have choices for the pair - what is the timing for those to be announced/determined? I assume it will be simultaneous?

Edit: cause otherwise Team 2 will just wait for Team 6 to declare what nations they are playing before deciding http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

Re: Allegiances 2 (Large Team-Based Game, RECRUITI
 

More questions:

How big is the map going to be? and

Can we get a commitment to the proportion of water provinces per water nation beforeplease?

Re: Allegiances 2 (Large Team-Based Game, RECRUITI
 

That's a good point, Velusion. Why don't we just have everyone PM me their nation choices, and I will post them all at once on the first page. Dr. P., I will give you a heads up, once I know if we need water provinces.

Map wise, Dr. P. can best answer, but I think last time we had 15-20 provinces per NATION? I'm sure we can have a commitment to a certain number of water provinces, once we know if we even need them.

Re: Allegiances 2 (Large Team-Based Game, RECRUITI
 

I was planning on (15-20)*14 ~= 250 provinces.

# of water nations, # of water provinces
0 - 1, 10
2, 25
3, 40

Re: Allegiances 2 (Large Team-Based Game, RECRUITI
 

How about 17 land provinces/land player and 15 water provinces/water nation.

(I just picked some fair numbers to get this rolling). Also how will the nations be placed on the map ? adjacent I imagine, but will the map be wraparound ? And in brief how will it look ?

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Well see I want a commitment to water provinces before we decide on what nations to play http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif. I'd hate for us to pick an all water team and there be something like 10 water provinces per water nation...

Re: Allegiances 2 (Large Team-Based Game, RECRUITI
 

Well, I was going to use the built in RMG to make a conventional flat map and arrange the start locations either in a ring on the outside or on pie slices, whichever was easier to fit, and depending on whether we have water nations or not.

I think that's too much water - if you allow the water nations to be near-average size without leaving the water, they are too powerful, imo.

OTOH, the more water players you have, the more water provinces/player you should have.

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That would be fine. I don't have a burning desire to play any of the four nations assigned so once I'm presented with final numbers on the water provinces I'll give my opinion to Thrawn as to which I think is the better deal and let him make the final choice.

Re: Allegiances 2 (Large Team-Based Game, RECRUITI
 

Drpre if I understand your map idea I will have two neighbors that will border me. One that I will be allied with.

Re: Allegiances 2 (Large Team-Based Game, RECRUITI
 

Homer, I believe the neighbor layout will be something like this, example would be for the southernmost team:

Middle of map (water?)
..E.A.E..
E...A...E
Southern edge of map

A = ally
E = enemy

Re: Allegiances 2 (Large Team-Based Game, RECRUITI
 

There are *two* possibilities, Micah is describing the "pie slice" arrangement, which I actually prefer.

The other possibility is the around-the-rim arrangement, which Evilhomer describes. Unless I hear otherwise from Thrawn, I will set up the map with the around-the-rim arrangement as soon as I know how many water players there are.

In case anyone missed the previous post:
Total Provinces = 250
# of water nations, # of water provinces (+/- 10%)
0 - 1, 10
2, 25
3, 40

Re: Allegiances 2 (Large Team-Based Game, RECRUITI
 

Gah! 12.5 water provinces per water player vs. 18.75 land provinces per land nation?

No way could I would even consider water then.

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Or 25 water provinces if only one person picks water. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Re: Allegiances 2 (Large Team-Based Game, RECRUITI
 

I will play Ermor. Carlosib will play Sauromatia.

Re: Allegiances 2 (Large Team-Based Game, RECRUITI
 

I will play Agartha, Micah will play Caelum.

Re: Allegiances 2 (Large Team-Based Game, RECRUITI
 

I'm taking Mictlan, Shovah's taking C'tis.

Re: Allegiances 2 (Large Team-Based Game, RECRUITI
 

helheim; evilhomer has the gloriously indominatable bare-chested marvernians

Re: Allegiances 2 (Large Team-Based Game, RECRUITI
 

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Re: Allegiances 2 (Large Team-Based Game, RECRUITI
 

Oh, sorry I was just skimming and didn't realize that the number of water provinces was contingent on the number of water players. NM.

Re: Allegiances 2 (Large Team-Based Game, RECRUITI
 

When will this game start ? Maybe we should wait until next week, hopefully the patch will be out by then.

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I'll have a location to upload pretenders this evening.

Re: Allegiances 2 (Large Team-Based Game, RECRUITI
 

So I take it that there will be no water players, yes/no?

I haven't heard from Thrawn so the start placement will be in a ring. I'm making the map for this and the starts for Evermore sometime this evening.

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i'd say the weekend... maybe the patch will be out, and if not hopefully we can get a ton of turns in http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

also gives me a couple days to figure out a pretender... awake 10b monolith?

Re: Allegiances 2 (Large Team-Based Game, RECRUITI
 

I've emailed Thrawn. I *think* He is taking Arco and I am taking Pan.

It's probably a safe bet to assume there will be no water players.

Re: Allegiances 2 (Large Team-Based Game, RECRUITI
 

Okay, here's how I've set things up.

There are four start locations across the top, and four start locations across the bottom.

There are four start locations to the east of the lake, and two start locations to the west of the lake.

It's not perfect but it should be good enough.

Re: Allegiances 2 (Large Team-Based Game, RECRUITI
 

are allies to start close by, or what is the sytem?

Re: Allegiances 2 (Large Team-Based Game, RECRUITI
 

Yeah, each pair of allies start out adjacent.

Re: Allegiances 2 (Large Team-Based Game, RECRUITI
 

Ok you can start uploading the pretenders to:

67.66.187.69
Port: 9945

Re: Allegiances 2 (Large Team-Based Game, RECRUITI
 

Hi Velusion,

please forgive my ignorance, but how exactly do I upload my pretender? (I have only ever played PBEM)

thanks

Re: Allegiances 2 (Large Team-Based Game, RECRUITI
 

hi parcelt.

first create your pretender god, under game tools.
then click network, and enter the ip address of the server.
then give the port (these settings will be remembered next time you join).
then choose your nation http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Re: Allegiances 2 (Large Team-Based Game, RECRUITI
 

I was under the impression that we were starting Monday?

Re: Allegiances 2 (Large Team-Based Game, RECRUITI
 

I was hoping so as well...

Re: Allegiances 2 (Large Team-Based Game, RECRUITI
 

My god is now in control of Ulm. My partner is Janlm.

Re: Allegiances 2 (Large Team-Based Game, RECRUITI
 

hey monday's fine... i'm still trying to figure out these helheim units... that white menorah on the black horsies means they keep kosher, right?

Re: Allegiances 2 (Large Team-Based Game, RECRUITI
 

Hey guys. Updating the front page with your nation choices. If you haven't posted them here, please do so, or PM me.

You can start uploading your pretenders using Velusion's instructions above.

The game will start Monday! Remember, no hostile actions against other PLAYER nations until after turn 15. You can kill all the independents you want. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Re: Allegiances 2 (Large Team-Based Game, RECRUITI
 

I'm Agartha, Micah is Caelum.

Re: Allegiances 2 (Large Team-Based Game, RECRUITI
 

Unless I missed it, I think the only team not yet reporting in is Team 6 - Folket, Snacktime.

Re: Allegiances 2 (Large Team-Based Game, RECRUITI
 

I do not think you have missed it. We are considering.

Re: Allegiances 2 (Large Team-Based Game, RECRUITI
 

No rush, we don't start until Monday. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif