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I'm not sure the Irh-Nrr are so happy-happy anymore http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif And from my guess, they're probably in first place.

I wonder if they met the Rage yet..

Phoenix-D

Re: Spiralus PBW discussion thread.
 

We have just encountered an independant machine ecology that goes by that designation.

We have broadcast Irha-Nrr system recognition handshake codes and are awaiting a response code to determine whether these machines are of common ancestry to the Irha-Nrr. We will not have a response for two months. If they are following common protocols, however, we should recieve a handshake code from them next month already.

We will keep our protected species appraised of these developments.

(OOC: time to kick my productive capacity up a notch, I think. http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif

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As I meet more races, I seem to be in an excellent position for all this trading I intend to do.

Come on people, post some info!
How is the war in the north going?
From what I see it's very amusing...the Bakulon vs. the Scron, there is but one contested system between their respective home systems, and each player has a fleet of about 10 frigates stationed on the wormholes that lead back to their home system. Looks like a cheap western where they stare each other down and everybody is waiting for the shooting to start.
I only have a small moon colonised in that system and am sort of observing, almost like a boxing referee in between the boxers in their corners http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif

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You mean you just bargined with me, made me pay passage to send my colonizers into a war zone? Sneaky little.. http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif Good thing I arm my tankers.

Any bets on them being the spark?

Phoenix-D

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Grr. I'm feeling pretty isolated down in my corner of the quadrant, buried behind empty systems. How am I supposed to police the universe when I barely even communicate with it, and have insufficient productive capacity to mount a mighty fleet? http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif

I'm working on it, though... hope I can catch up to everyone else quickly enough to play a significant role again.

Re: Spiralus PBW discussion thread.
 

Beedee, I have some scouts on their way who are tring to locate you.

Phoenix, the Tyrik system (i think that was the name) is in a cold war state, but I did warn you! when we set up the trade many turns ago I mentioned there would be frigates from the Bakulon and Scron in that system, and that you better be on friendly terms with them.

If your new colonies can survive for one turn it will be better cause you can then have mines launched above them. And you have been trading with the Scron and Bakulov for so long I doubt they'll go to war with you over some colonies, they probably need the resource income to fund their cold war.

That's another reason why I have T&R treaties with most races, by now these are in the 15-16% range, and I produce more resources and research than any other race, to continously impress on everyone how important I am to their economies, which will hopefully dissuade people from turning on me. As you can see from the tech I offer for sale, it is all benign stuff I research, like Mineral Mining II and Cargo II (need those warehouses to store all the profits from trading !)

But I went a bit overboard, with my reduced maintenance (Merchant ability) and 20% extra to my trading skill, the resources are coming in so fast I can hardly keep up with warehouses, even with all planets constructing something. And of course, seeing money going down the drain due to lack of storage is the ultimate sin for my race http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif

I probably overcompensated for my mistake in the Letharg PBW game, where I relied so much on trade that I went nearly bankrupt when three players turned on me at once http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon9.gif

(I still won that game though, so don't be getting any ideas :-)

Re: Spiralus PBW discussion thread.
 

Well, at the moment our sector has Dragon waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay out in front, me in distant 7th, and the other two races back behind me in the overall standings.

How many of the races are human and how many are AI, anyway?

Phoenix-D

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Last I checked I was in _10th_ score-wise. I think that part of the blame lies in how I was trying to save the atmosphered planets for other species to colonize, despite only have two systems with planets readily available. That policy has undergone revision now. There won't be _any_ organic species left alive if I don't get on the ball soon. http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif

Re: Spiralus PBW discussion thread.
 

Phoenix, there are 7 human races and 6 or 7 AI races.

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Beedee,

I have finally discovered where your race lives and perhaps we can come to your rescue. We're sure to have some nice technology that you could use...for a small price http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif

Re: Spiralus PBW discussion thread.
 

Rollo, King of the Space Vikings, seems to have disappeared today. He was holding up all the games I was in, and finally I decided to execute the turns manually since I knew that by that time it was 2 AM where he lives, and he was unlikely to meet the upload deadline.

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Dragonlord:
Rollo, King of the Space Vikings, seems to have disappeared today. He was holding up all the games I was in, and finally I decided to execute the turns manually since I knew that by that time it was 2 AM where he lives, and he was unlikely to meet the upload deadline.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

That is too bad, because I was just about to send my turns in http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon9.gif.

I think if we play 24hrs per turn, you should give 24 hrs to meet the deadline.

Re: Spiralus PBW discussion thread.
 

Yes, I agree we should stick to the deadline.
Rollo and I sent some emails back and forth and it is straightened out.

From now on, I will use the "probation" system for games that I host. This means that if you are late with your turn I will simply wait for the deadline, and the AI will play for you for one turn. Then, on the next turn, if you are *again* the Last person to upload and some hours have passed, I will execute the turn manually. In the interest of moving things along for the rest of the players. If you miss your turn 3 or 4 times in a row and don't respond to my emails, I will "dead" your empire, i.e. turn it over to the AI.
Sounds fair to everybody ?

Re: Spiralus PBW discussion thread.
 

Does late mean 24 hours have past since you Last turned in your turn, or X hours have passed since everyone but you turned in their turn?

I hope it's the first and not second because I tend to occasionally receive a nag while I'm playing my turn or just as I'm about to upload. Short of skipping sleep (big no no) I can't upload any earlier because I have to (and want to http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/ima...ons/icon12.gif ) eat breakfast at 6:00...

Re: Spiralus PBW discussion thread.
 

24 hours means 24 hours since the Last turn ran.

Phoenix-D

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Maybe I should clarify. If you miss one turn, for whatever reason, that's fine. The AI will handle that turn. But if, after that auto-execution due to time-out, everybody else has sent in their turn and you are *again* the Last person we are waiting for, I will not wait many hours till the expiration time. I'll probably wait till about 10 PM EST (convenient time for me) and execute manually. I will also email the Last player before I do this.

I suggest this because I often see 6 people uploading within 3 hours after they get their turn, then waiting up to 21 hours for the Last person. We'll wait that long once, but not two days in a row. (Unless you notified me beforehand that you would be unable to play, when you'll be back, and everybody agrees to wait that long).

BTW I intend to use the same policy on the "Isobreak" and "Diplowar" games, so I want to make sure you all understand and agree with this approach.

Re: Spiralus PBW discussion thread.
 

Dragon, I've got a problem. Switched the cable internet and guess what- it doesn't work right now. I'm doing this from a library computer, which doesn't have SE4. I'll try uploading my turn, but I'd apprecite disabling the auto-turn change for a few days.

Phoenix-D

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Phoenix,

You're lucky I saw this just in time, 30 minutes before the turn expiration ! Perhaps email would have been a more reliable route.
I have postponed the turn for a few hours while I email you. Are you suggesting we postpone the game for a number of days until you get your Internet back? I'm not sure everyone will want to wait that long...

Re: Spiralus PBW discussion thread.
 

Uh, Dragon, I have no email at the moment http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif Thanks though.

anyway- we've got a tech comming tommarow. If HE can't fix it, I'll just put my DSL modem back in and use it. The annoying part is that I have the turn, I just can't do anything with it.. I'll try something else, maybe, but it probably still won't get in ntil tommarow.

Sorry.

EDIT: OK, it's in. Still no idea on when my machine will have access, and I can't exactly use this one all the time, soo.. see above.

Phoenix-D

[This message has been edited by Phoenix-D (edited 09 August 2001).]

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OK, it's running..

sorta. Would you belive hooking the modem, via ethernet, to another computer helped? (it's connected to my server via USB)

Phoenix-D

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lol.. my sattilite layer crews must be scared witless by now. Every single one build has ran into a minefield and blown itself to bits..

Phoenix-D

Re: Spiralus PBW discussion thread.
 

OK, it has been a long time since our Last status update. How is everyone doing?

My own race, the Dragons, is growing exponentially, trying to maintain peace in the quadrant while I deal with the foul Amonkrie. We think we have the military might to pacify the entire norther sector if need be, so I'm curious to hear the view of the northern races on this situation. How will they intend to proceed..?

On one of our many other fronts, we are cooperating with the Irra-Nrr in their efforts to neutralise the threat of the Rage and of any other hostile species in the region.

Our merchanting efforts have been very succesful, and we just finished research on Cargo III to store the vast amounts of minerals we are generating.

Re: Spiralus PBW discussion thread.
 

The Irha-Nrr are descending as far into raving paranoia as they are capable of. Our only neighbours are the Yvelom and the Dragons, the two biggest empires in the game, and the Rage Collective, an insane perVersion of everything we hold dear. I have no idea whether the Dragons or the Yvelom are the lesser of two evils, or both, or neither, and the Dragons are refusing to give me comm channels to the "outside world" so that I could have some way of finding out for myself.

The only thing that's stopping me from just blowing _everyone_ up right now and sorting out the mess afterward is the fact that I lack the military power to do it. At the moment all I can do is focus on the Rage and hope to figure things out in time to make wise decisions if and when the balloon goes up. http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif

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I'm just huddling in my little corner, trying to figure out a way to get the @%^ Clan back in a way the Dragons won't interfere with http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif

Phoenix-D

Re: Spiralus PBW discussion thread.
 

A few turns ago the Space Vikings made contact with another race. Being the friendly guy that I am, I proposed a treaty of trade and research right away and wrote some nice role playing text: "Greetings from the Space Vikings... (blahblahblah)". Two turns later I got the answer:"Now is not the time for alliances." I thought that was pretty rude. At least that player could have written some more personal text. So I checked out who it was, only to find out it was one of the AI races... (Duh !) http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/ima...ons/icon12.gif.
Note to myself:"The AI doesn't really care what you write in Messages..."

Rollo

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Well, on the bad side, Dragon just broke a treaty worth 40k credits per turn, which put me in dept 10k per turn.

The good news (?) is he blew away my fleet at the same time, so I'm not running negative.

Did I mention my entire fleet was being retrofitted at the time?

Phoenix-D

Re: Spiralus PBW discussion thread.
 

OK, I am SERIOUSLY embarrased.

Despite having a much, much larger tech base, the Dragons didn't have phased shields when they attacked. I did, and we were both uisng PPB Vs. If I hadn't refitted my entire fleet at the same time, I would have tore him to bits!

Phoenix-D

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Yes I was surprised I survived that battle so well ! My ships in that fleet were outdated of course, they had been sitting in that system for 6 months while I tried to sort out the diplomacy. I assume I had the luck that I attacked just as he was refitting his shields !

Meanwhile, hell is breaking loose. 4 AI races suddenly decided to declare war on me, for a moment I though I went MEE but I don't think so because 2 other AI's are still trading with me. Perhaps some treachary from a human whom I gave the AI comm channels in good faith and then persuaded them to attack me?

Hmm, I must investigate...will keep you all posted.

Re: Spiralus PBW discussion thread.
 

If so, the human player isn't _me_. I still barely have any contact at all with the outside world at this point, let alone influence.

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Well, all hell is breaking loose now in Spiralus. But most players are intimately involved in this (except Rollo I think) so I'm not sure how much info I should post here. If there's anybody out there who is not in tihs game and would like to know how it is going, let me know.

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Post it man!

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Dragonlord:
Well, all hell is breaking loose now in Spiralus. But most players are intimately involved in this (except Rollo I think)... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I have to admit I don't have a clue what's going on at all http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/ima...ons/icon12.gif. So far the only human player I have encountered is Dragonlord. Because of some twists in the map I encountered the Earth Alliance in the early game no matter in which direction I was exploring. Still having lots of fun, though.

Rollo

Re: Spiralus PBW discussion thread.
 

OK, in a nutshell what happened:

My race is by far the strongest in this game because I had the luck of a central starting position which allowed me to trade with everybody and block players from establishing contact with each other. I've played as a peaceful merchant race from the beginning.

However, now there is not much for me to do anymore. I have all the tech I wanted, got some 80 planets, 200 ships, all built up and upgraded to the max. So I started looking at the victory conditions (400% of 2nd place player) and figured that if I could take out the fleets of No2. I would drop his score enough to win.

Problem was, I had to declare war to do this, which wasn't in the nature of my character. (this was before I became enlightened about roleplaying). I let my own human desires drive the action of my character and declared war with a pretty thin in-game justification. The player I went to war with was very pissed, believe me. I still feel guilty about that.

Another race, which I had been carefully grooming to help me in this war, decided that my sudden war was so out of sync with my peaceful char that he suddenly switched sides and started helping my intended victim.
He even convinced a small race which was under my protection to surrender to him, and now suddenly has a presence on my border.

In the east of my empire I am peacefully working with the Space Vikings to eradicate a rather strong AI race, though this will take time.
Meanwhile everybody's score is suddenly shooting up, while mine remains fairly constant (no more room to expand), so short of galactic domination I see no way to ensure victory for my Dragons.

And being a huge central empire with 2 and potentially 4 pretty large human empires attacking you from all sides is tough !

(edit: typos)

[This message has been edited by Dragonlord (edited 18 August 2001).]

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The Space Vikings are glad to announce that the heinous regime of the Earth Allinace has finally been ended. The war criminal President Sheridan has been captured and will be held responsible for the atrocities commited under his rule. He has not only been killing millions of Vikings, but of his own people as well. A few months ago we liberated one of their small mining moons and the workers there very really happy about that. In the following month that outpost was completely destroyed by EA forces causing the death of 100M of their own people!
Luckily we have encountered the Irha-Nrr in this month also. I have contacted them and offered to turn Sheridan over to them. I would imagine that they have developed methods to deal with genocidal war criminals http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/ima...ons/icon12.gif.

Rollo

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Heh. Unfortunately, the Irha-Nrr try not to play the "blame game," especially not with individual members of a species. They simply try to ensure that violent species never have access to dangerous toys ever again.

We have a small colony of Terrans which is being maintained as a "wildlife preserve" to ensure that the species doesn't go extinct. If you hand Sheridan over to us, we will place him in this colony. Even if he rises to a position of local leadership among the populace, all spacecraft and advanced facilities are under Irha-Nrr control and therefore off-limits to Terrans except as passengers.

He will never be able to command spacegoing forces again. Perhaps this will be seen by your people as suitable "punishment" for an expansionistic tyrant?

Meanwhile, Elder Avatar's forces have just finished annihilating one of the Yvelom's undefended homeworlds far behind the border, totally ignoring the massive Yvelom warfleet nearby. So much for their promise to target military equipment only. I'm going to have to set aside a Dragon reserve at some point, I think... http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif

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Ah yes. As for the destruction of that homeworld: using the Yvelon's own logic, (which they applied to the Terrans), that was a military target. Homeworlds have a high construction rate and can produce dangerous ships fast. We intend to destroy another one, then turn our attention to the main Yvelon fleet. After that, our objective will have been achieved and we can sue for peace, helping the Yvelon to build up the remains of their economy. (hoping that their defeat on the military level has dissuaded them from any future militaristic dreams).
What won't help their economy though is the planets they destroyed (abandonded) all on their own http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon9.gif

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Can't blame you for doing what I would've done in your place http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/ima...ons/icon12.gif This of course doesn't mean Shepherd Ikul is happy.

The abandoned planets aren't a serious concern. They were all small and tiny planets of little economic value whose only purpose was to construct ships.

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BeeDee10:
We have a small colony of Terrans which is being maintained as a "wildlife preserve" to ensure that the species doesn't go extinct. If you hand Sheridan over to us, we will place him in this colony. Even if he rises to a position of local leadership among the populace, all spacecraft and advanced facilities are under Irha-Nrr control and therefore off-limits to Terrans except as passengers.

He will never be able to command spacegoing forces again. Perhaps this will be seen by your people as suitable "punishment" for an expansionistic tyrant?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hmm yes, sounds pretty good. I mean, if we just wanted him executed or so we could have done it ourselves http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/ima...ons/icon12.gif. I guess there is no galactic tribunal or some such, or is there?

Rollo

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Hehehe, Dragonlords eastern front is crumbling into dust. I just tore one of his fleets apart and now have two fleets in the Dragons soft underbelly. Sorry, this may come a little late to some of you.

Hey, Dragonlord, what have your captains been drinking? They can't even hit the ground http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/ima...ons/icon12.gif.

I apologize for boasting too much, but you guys should have seen the battle in the Wanduk system. Ohoh, better be quiet now and prepare for the Dragon counterattack...

Rollo

Re: Spiralus PBW discussion thread.
 

Perhaps one day we _can_ see the battle for ourselves. I save all the turns that get emailed to me until after the game ends, so we could swap passwords afterward and view key points in each others' histories to see how things actually happened in the past. http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif

Of course, that assumes that none of you is reusing their passwords in other games. If you are, though, shame on you for such an insecure practice. http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif

Re: Spiralus PBW discussion thread.
 

Yep, Rollo is doing damage. My entire military was focused on the Yvelon and Irra-Nrr, plus a north fleet in case the Scron went hostile. I never expected a betrayal from the Space Vikings so my east was barely defended. The fleet he killed consisted of a half dozen green untrained warships, while (judging by the hit/miss ratio) his fleet was veteran or maybe even legendary.
He has also shown me the value of the extra 30% defense you get from putting all armor types on your ships...
So in order to destroy his fleets I need overwhelming numbers...which I have, just not in the right place. What's worse, he's capturing essential planets rather than destroying them, hurting my economy while he boosts his own. My weapon platforms were useless and I am now convinced that the *only* viable planet defense is...ships. Lots and lots of ships.

Will keep you posted, as I scramble to put up defense and redirect my fleets.

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What makes you think any of us would reuse passords? *bats eyelashes*

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Frontline news (the Viking view) Last month 2408.1 (didn't have a look at the new turn yet):

Last month another brave battle was fought be Viking forces in the Aldan system. On Aldan III a fleet with a humanitarian mission to evacuate all Dragon civilists was attacked by Dragon forces. The Viking fleet was hopelessly outnumbered and outgunned. It consisted only of two Jarlsund LC and three Halden DS, while the Dragons attacked with a battleship and a battlecruiser backed up by five LC. We feared the Dragons would try to wipe out their own population, so while one LC kept the Dragons busy the other LC covered the retreat of the civilians with help of the destroyers. The Jarlsund fought bravely and was skillfully dodging most shots. Once the unarmed vessels were safe it was joined by the other LC and the destroyers to make sure the Dragons would do no more harm. At the end of the battle all Dragon ships were severely damaged and two destroyed, while all Viking ships remained unscratched and the civilians were safe. At the end of the month the entire Aldan system was liberated from Dragon oppression and the population jubilantly joined the Vikings. They will be welcome members of our clans for their superior trading skills, because we have a great demand for merchants and accountants considering our recent growth.

In the Wanduk system the Viking fleet was defeated by superior Dragon forces. We fear the worst for the people (Vikings and Dragons) in the Wanduk system.

We are truly shocked that the Dragons don't even stop at murdering their own people in their quest for galactic dominance. We have been friends the most time and would have never imagined they were even capable of such atrocities. This tells us that our intervention into Dragon space is a just cause of liberating helpless and oppressed civilians from an evil regime.
Even in the face of the genocide committed by the Dragons we will continue to fight and try to keep collatoral(sp?) damage and civilian losses at a minimum. We will try to take in as many Dragon refugees as possible and ask all other galactic powers to do the same should they seek asylum with you.

We have demanded the surrender of the Dragons to prevent more bloodshed. Hopefully Elder Avatar will come to his senses again or there will be billions of more deaths.

We mourn for the dead and hope they will be safely guided to Valhalla by the Valkyrja,
King Rollo of the Space Vikings

Re: Spiralus PBW discussion thread.
 

Rearguard news, the Irha-Nrr view:

"Since the destruction of our entire military and of the shipyards and research worlds in Tesshana, the Dragons have withdrawn from our space. They are apparently satisfied that we no longer pose a threat, and indeed it will be a matter of many months before we have recovered sufficiently to defend our core systems and the Terran reserve planet located there.

In the meantime, as anticipated, the quadrant has gone mad as the tensions cultivated by the Dragons over the years all find catharsis. Every major empire has declared war upon the Dragons, who although quite capable of subduing any one opponent are apparently suffering significant casulaties due to the many fronts they are forced to divide their forces among. They have just finished annihilting a significant portion of the Scron's military forces, along with a number of Scron worlds, and are now apparently redeploying away from the Scron front much as they did from our territory after neutralizing our own forces. I believe that the attacks launched by the Space Vikings have been responsible for saving all of the rest of us from total extermination at the Dragons' hands, and I find it ironic that agression has been responsible for saving these species. At least in the short term.
It is strangely fascinating to witness the actual collapse of this cycle of civilization, fully validating the projection our models of long-term biological evolution produced. Now that the Dragons have rendered us completely helpless to intervene and prevent this cycle's collapse, it is almost exhilerating now watching it all end in destruction. I only hope that I will be able to recover samples of some of the other intelligent species out there in the midst of this chaos."

Re: Spiralus PBW discussion thread.
 

/ooc In response to the message from the Vikings:
/end ooc

After the treacherous betrayal from the Space Vikings, whom had been staunch allies of the Dragons throughout our lifespan in this galaxy, we suffered medium-sized losses.
Apparantly the Vikings had been planning this betrayal for some time, since shortly after their war declaration they captured an undefended large research planet in a forward system we shared with them.
The next month enemy forces moved into other undefended frontier systems, targetting mineral planets and resupply stations. Their agression cost the lives of millions of innocent Dragon civilians. Meanwhile, Dragon fleets are scrambling to reach our east frontier. We were too late to save our population in Aldan, but have beaten back the enemy in Walduk and reclaimed this system. Another small fleet, done with the removal of the Amonkrie and the Rage, has entered some outlying Viking systems and destroyed some small colonies there. It will now move on to more strategic targets.

It is true that we were forced to destroy colonies we once held in Wanduk. However we have *at no point* fired on our own population. The planets in question were all oxygen planets with Space Viking population on them, colonists we had received from the Vikings back when we were still at peace with them. These traitors received the death they deserve, for not fighting to defend the infrastructure they built with Dragon resources.

Another small fleet we sent into Aldan was targetted on Viking transport vessels, not on our planets there. To our dismay our technically superior ships found it nearly impossible to hit the enemy ships, while the enemy occasionally scored a hit. These Dragon ships died the horrible death of "a thousand fleebites". Fortunately our ship captains are now gaining the experience necessary to offset the defensive shielding (stealth and such)and the racial defense bonus that the Vikings enjoy. Our total fleet forces is also nearly double that of the Vikings, who also have to station at least some ships on their frontier with the Praetorians. We remain confident that we will avenge our innocent colonists. We will bathe the Vikings in righteous fire, to the point where they will return our colonies to us and scrap their ships. As the Irra-Nrr would say, none of these races can be trusted with military toys, and we follow the same goals as the Irra-Nrr (albeit for different reasons): remove all military capbilities of our neighbours, to protect their civilians from the self-destructive course their government set them on. After that we will help any race willing, to rebuild their economy and return to a prosperous lifestyle of peace and prosperity.

Elder Avatar

Re: Spiralus PBW discussion thread.
 

/ooc

"Apparantly the Vikings had been planning this betrayal for some time..."

I really wish I had more time to plan this a little more. My attack was actually pretty rushed, because I feared everybody would call it quits, before I got the chance to smash a few things. So I just pulled everything together real quick and charged. My initial fleet was well trained, but outdated. Heck, some of them were still using DUCs and armor. On the other hand my newly build ships, don't perform nearly as well as my veterans. Note: A DUC at the hand of an expert is ten times worth a PPB in the hand of a rookie (but I guess you all know this already http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/ima...ons/icon12.gif)

Anyway, the wrath of the Dragons is taking its toll. I reckon there will be a major battle next month that could end my objectives of pesting the Dragons a little more http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/ima...ons/icon12.gif. After that I'll pull all my ships together to make a Last stand and we'll all go to Valhalla.

Rollo

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Dragonlord has just destroyed one of my fleets that attempted to strike into his mainland just short before reaching its target. If everybody agrees, it is okay for me to end this game now. If not, I still have another fleet http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/ima...ons/icon12.gif...

Anyway, it's been a pleasure, even though I didn't interact with most of you until late in the game. This being one of my first PBW games I sure learned a lot.

Rollo
[edit]typos

[This message has been edited by Rollo (edited 01 September 2001).]

Re: Spiralus PBW discussion thread.
 

Aye, I enjoyed the bit of spice Rollo added to the end fase, once again I was eager to see the next turn come in and see If I had hunted down his fleet yet or if he would do more damage. He came dangerously close to my core mineral planet (80k production)! I even started closing warp points to force any of his stray ships to go through my kill zone if he really wanted to strike at my core planets.

It's been a good game and I for one learned a lot. I too am now ready to call it quits, and free up some time for my next game: Diplowar II.


[This message has been edited by Dragonlord (edited 02 September 2001).]