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Heretic! Patala is nothing but awesome. Incredibly powerful mages, sacred astral researchers, elephants, it doesn't get much better than that.

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I've never delved into Ry'leh, so it looks like I've got a good bit of reading and playtesting to do in the next couple days.

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lol I didnt'want ry'leh or ermor though I'm pretty sure they are the strongest.. if you like 4h turns halfway in the game

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Baseless fear mongering... I'd invite people to take a close look at the one team comprised completely of grade AA nations... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

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What is the exact start date/time?
Anyone know?
It would help with my planning a little.

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Which is the team composed of grade AA nations? I actually can't guess.

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Well, it's hyperbole to some degree, but most the teams are somewhat strong/weak pairs. Bogarus (strong)/Atlantis weak), Mictlan/Abysia, Marignon/Pythium, Patala/C'tis, even Ry'leh/Man (though man is pretty nice too). Ermor and Agartha though... Ermor is almost in a class by itself, and Agartha is arguably the most powerful live LE nation.

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It should be noted that Agartha will probably be played by one of the worst Dominion players of all time! Myself http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

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I would hope to start no earlier than late this weekend. I still need time to try and come to grips with crazy LA Pythium, and come up with some kind of decent build for them.

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I agree that R'lyeh/Man is pretty nice - but the other alternatives all struck me as worse (R'lyeh/Arco?R'lyeh/Utgard? R'lyeh/Caelum?), and R'lyeh/Midgard is just silly.

For Ermor's partner, I didn't want to give them too much non-death magic, and C'tis was taken.... it's very thematic, in any case. I'm not as impressed by LA Ermor as many people are, and while LA Agartha is one of my favorites, I've never thought they were that powerful. I'm prepared to be shown otherwise by the inestimable foodstamp, however http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

I think we'll start late this weekend, if that's when people are comfortable. Monday is St. Patty's day, so I'll be wasted, but I can probably still manage to play.

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Ermor/Agartha was something I was wondering about too...
I mean Ermors capitol alone is 7.5 Umbrals per turn, and any living nation being able to give Ermor gold...
I'm worried.

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I had no idea LA Agartha was considered powerful. Interesting.

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Wow, is it worth me and Coobe even playing. It sounds like you guys are already allied http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

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foodstamp did you receive my email ?

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oh and i never played ermor before so dont worry, i will suck even if its considered strong http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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I didn't know what most other people thought of them, but I've always viewed them as one of the top LA nations.

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Nope http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

Forward your old message to jshores "at" wildfiregames "dot" com. If that does not work for you, try mjshores21 "at" tntech "dot" edu.

Either one of those, I can check from home/work/school.

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On the other hand it will be easy to know what to do if you find yourself in conflict with Ermor/Agartha. Both go for the dead, so all answers are pretty simple http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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I might have a lil difficulty getting my pretender in this weekend.. but I'll try

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ehm I think I have a pretender .. but I'm missing how I should submit it.. how are we playing this game...

give me info please

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It'll be over IP. I'm still fiddling with the map, I'll post it tomorrow and we can get the server running by tomorrow night, I imagine.

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Pythium Pretender is ready. He has 50% understanding of what his nation can do, but I think that is about the best that is possible for LA Pythium.

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> Pythium Pretender is ready. He has 50% understanding of what his nation can do

Then he probably knows more about his nation than the Pantokrator (me as creator of the nation) http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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one thing.. maybe expand the hall of fame? More red stars is fun http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

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Oh, okay. 15 size hall of fame.

The map file is attached. Pink team has to be R'lyeh - Gray team has to be Ermor/Agartha.

The other four starts will be randomly assigned - they are not scrupulously fair, but all of them border both R'lyeh (at least nominally) and Ermor.

I'm a little worried about the southern start (green) being too strong, but I had trouble trying to niggle everyone else south while giving them proper numbers of neighbors.

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Oh that's really easy for you to say, you're Mr. White. You gotta cool-sounding name. So tell me, Mr. White, if you think "Mr. Pink" is no big deal, you wanna trade?

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Haha, I love that movie.

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don't we need a .map file?

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Only the host needs the .map file.

The .map file will also include which players are assigned to which start locations, assignments that I will not make until people have a chance to request changes to the map http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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What do you use to look at the map then? I don't have anything to look at a .rgb file.

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I have pimp but it won't load... can someone post a conversion of the map in this thread so I can just have a look at it?

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If you dump into the dominions map folder, you should be able to view it by going "new map" and typing in the name of the rgb file. It won't have the province terrains and connections right, but you can at least look at the map.

Here's a jpeg.

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How come the team in the bottom right corner's capitols are so far apart when everyone else is only 2 spaces.

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No objections to the map. Looks fine to me.

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BDA - That was intended to compensate for the fact that the team in the lower right has, effectively, fewer neighbors. This makes them more vulnerable to the neighbors they do have, because they'll have a harder time defending one another. Other reason is that, if you look at that part of the map, few provinces have exactly 5 neighbors. I'm not sure if this is a net advantage or a death sentence.....

I could push the northern yellow capital a bit south, and the orange capitals a bit south, if people prefer - but the starts might have to be a bit funkier if I did that.

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Things look good to me. Nice work on the map Dr. Praetorious.

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Sounds good to me. I figured you had a reason for it. That's why I asked.

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I will be pretty much unable to play until Friday. My video card in my PC died, and my Mac is very unstable playing Dominions. It reboots without warning after several minutes of playing the game.

I've been able to play my other MP games on my Mac by logging in, doing the bare minimum quickly, and logging out before the Mac reboots. But almost every game still requires several reboots before I can get my turn in.

A new video card has been ordered for my PC, and should be here by Friday. If we could wait to start til then, I would be most appreciative. If not, I can try to play turns on my Mac, but it will be iffy. Please feel free to replace me if this is a bother to the other players.

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It's fine by me, so we'll wait until Friday, unless anyone objects.

We should try and keep things to a steady pace once we've actually started, however.

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Can we do the pretender submission before friday though?
So we get the first turns on friday?

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Oh, sure. I'll contact lch in the morning.

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Yes, I can certainly keep the game running long enough to upload a pretender.

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I was kinda wondering when you wanted to do that. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif
Good to see you organizing all of this on your own.

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Okay, turns out that Marignon and Atlantis have to be given coastal starts (game will start them on coast even if I try to force them to start elsewhere!) Good thing I checked.

I have work to do and can't finish fiddling with this until tonight, but I'll get the map file and all to lch sometime tonight. Sorry for the delay.

Thanks for hosting, lch!

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I believe the game will accept a province bordering a large lake as a coastal start. That happened to me once in MP with LA Atlantis. I was placed next to such a lake, a good 12 provinces from the sea.

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So this is the time for me to say if I want to be near r'lyeh or just near a lake http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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We haven't even started yet and he's already threatening me!

There better not be a patch 3 turns into this game with big R'lyeh nerfs and huge Atlantis buffs! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif

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I can't upload my pretender then untill late friday. Thursday I'll not be home... as much as I'd liek to start friday I fear you'll have to wait for me till then, first turn will be in the weekend I guess

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The finalized map, the map file (which only lch needs, but y'all can enjoy), and an empty mod which I'd like to use are all attached in a zip file.

The mod goes in your mods folder, the map goes in your map folder.

I propose that the game be QH with the first forced host in Monday night, to give people time to resolve any as-yet unknown technical difficulties.

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I'm not too sure what color to call it...light yellow? anyhow the far right team (Marignon Pythium I think) it does not seem like the top person (marignon) would have much room to expand...and the bottom right of the map is very open. Perhaps the lower light yellow spot (pythiums start) should be moved down a couple provinces so they can better compete with green for the lower right of the map while allowing marignon more expansion room? In the first image of the map you showed it their start locations had been lower...you mentioned that marignon has to be coastal...but I think the other start could still be moved a bit lower.

I don't know...I could be crazy.

Also, out of curiosity, when I start a new game on the map on the starter provinces there are a couple magic sites that seem to be blank with the name "The Empty Slot" ...what are these?

Still like the map by the way, very nice work.