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#onebattlespell presently works not only for battle spells but for summoning spells, but when a summoning spell is used, it casts the spell over and over for the duration of the battle. At least it does for "Summon Spectral infantry"

If this is something easily coded, it would be nice to expand #onebattlespell to summoning spells(as it seems to have been done maybe inadvertently), but limit it to a single cast.

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You used a ritual spells, i.e. non-battle spell. Using a combat summon would fix it, but it'd have to be custom one for Spectral Infantry.

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I have used the spell successfully for combat spells. What i was trying to do was add a bit of diversity to it if it was easy to do. One of my heroes casts "living fire" just fine.

However, I did not want a mod with many authors contributing to it modding a bunch of spells as there would be a risk of conflict. So I was trying to find a way to get a great eagle summoned in combat without modding a spell to do it.

May not be possible.

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You've created a situation where the caster can spam the spell repeatedly. If you only want him to do it once a battle, up the fatigue cost on the custom spell. He will cast it the first time and suffer no fatigue, but he will not cast it beyond that because he is not able to pay the cost.

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Actually the caster is not casting the spell. it auto casts the entire battle. The caster is casting other spells.

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That's really weird. Can you post the scripting for the spell? Because my guy would spam the #onebattlespell summon before I made the change. Then after I made the change, he would autocast it to begin with, then cast other things.

Maybe this is some type of new bug introduced in the last patch, because I have not touched modding since I was hearing reports that modded magic paths were messed up.

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I've never seen a unit actually /casting/ the #onebattlespell. I've only seen it go off automatically. How did you get him to cast it?

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I think I did it with:

#researchlevel 0
#school -1

Here is the spell since then. I did not intend for him to be able to cast the spell beyond the initial #onebattlespell casting, so it has been modified.

-------------------------------------Special Spell--------------------------------------------------------------

#selectspell 87
#clear
#name "Summon Spirit Champion"
#descr "The Caster is able to revive the spirit of a troll warrior who has died outside of combat."
#school -1
#researchlevel 1 (This was 0 originally I think)
#path 0 5
#pathlevel 0 1
#path 1 1
#pathlevel 1 1
#effect 1
#range 5
#nreff 1
#sound 18
#flightspr -1
#explspr -1
#fatiguecost 5000 (This was originally 0)
#damage 2033
#restricted 62
#end

And here is the guy who casts it:


#newmonster 2010
#spr1 "./midgard/spiritmaster1.tga"
#spr2 "./midgard/spiritmaster2.tga"
#name "Spiritmaster"
#descr "There is no greater glory in Midgard than dying in combat. Some people are not granted such a chance the first time around. Spiritmasters are able to recall the souls of those who have died a dishonorable death. These newly arisen spirits serve the Spiritmaster in return for a chance to die in combat, which will guarantee them a spot in the house of the new God."
#hp 10
#size 2
#prot 0
#mor 12
#mr 14
#enc 3
#str 10
#att 9
#def 10
#prec 10
#mapmove 2
#ap 12
#gcost 100
#rcost 1
#nametype 115
#coldres 25
#weapon "Quarterstaff"
#poorleader
#onebattlespell 87
#itemslots 15494
#magicskill 1 1
#magicskill 5 1
#end


If you alter the spell to the way I had it originally noted by the bold it should give you a caster that is able to spam a summon spell.

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The modding wishes shortlist has been fixed and is once more readable.

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That was fast! :eek: Thanks for the work.

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1. I would still like to have the #useinwater (or something similar) to be added for ranged weapons.

Would be great for the total conversion dom 3000

Even better would be:
2. 1-2 new province types: air (and/or space)
-only accesable by flying creatures
-above average chance of air and or astral sites (
- I'd say they'd not be used in general games etc, just for modding (dom 3000) purposes

I guess the 2nd proposal might even be easier to implement and if it could be done it would be GREAT!!! (if also the #flying command was available only or #airshape and it's returning counterpart)

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Edi I would still like to see above requests added to the wishlist :D

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I support the idea of allowing underwater ranged weapons, allthrough #copyweapon (allready on the list) might solve the problem (I have to check, if there is any ranged weapon that is not MR negates, that fires underwater).

(But new terrain types: My guess would be: chances are small. ;)

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I'd like to see modifiable underwater ranged weapons, flying, and stealth in the game. Not sure that Stealth isn't already possible, though

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Underwater stealth will be possible with the next patch (through seashape / landshape)

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There are already underwater stealth units. A Bogarus summon for instance.

I have no idea if it works though.

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I used a gor ghost as a stealth unit in a prior mp game. The joke was on me if he showed as stealth but really was not(: He did show as stealth though.

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Added #landlubber to monster modding wishlist so I won't forget it (found a thread where it was requested while browsing through the forums).

Please keep all modding wishlist related discussion to this thread or the other threads linked from the shortlist thread.

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A list of possible stuff for event modding added to list as per request from KO. :)

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I saw this in a thread about caves.

Making a province neighbor connection hidden until discoved by a search. Could be used to find hidden paths through mountain ranges and/or into a second layer on the map.

Multi-Tier PD.
 

HoneyBadger has created a thread in the main dominions forum containing his wishlist/modding suggestion:

Wishlist: Multi-Tier PD

The original content of this post can be found at the above link. HoneyBadger felt that the content was relevant to this thread and the Mod forum, but to allow extensive discussion of the suggestion, he requested that I edit this post.

Have a nice day. :)

- Ballbarian

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I've searched the short list and this thread and haven't seen this suggestion. (No guarantee there, one would have to have much more patience than I possess to claim 100% accuracy.)

How about a spell that is the reverse of banishment or smite demons that demons and undead could use on sacred/holy non-demons?

Also, while going though the short list I saw the magic item section the following:

"#prec [bonus] Item grants commander specified bonus to precision"

I make weapons with enhanced precision using the "#precision <>" command. Won't this work on items also?

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Longbow of Accuracy item doesn't affect precision, but the weapon it gives to the unit (also named Longbow of Accuracy) has very high precision stat. When the commander uses the bow, he's very accurate. If the commander casts a spell, he uses his normal accuracy.

Eye of Aiming affects the unit's precision directly, and affects spells as well as fired missiles.

Spell modding is rather complicated. Unit abilities are all given as independent command tags, but spell effects and specialities are given as bitmask values that can be used to enable a number of options from a greater pool. It might be possible to mod a spell that only affects sacreds; if it isn't, it's unlikely it will become available.

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Eye of Aiming affects the unit's precision directly, and affects spells as well as fired missiles.

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I understand the difference. I thought about that difference on my drive home last night and surmised that might be the case.

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What like Bless? I presume you can just take the 'friendly targets only' bit off bless and add 'enemy targets only' and you'd have your spell.

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#Prophetshape {monster name/ID}

Used to provide a second shape if the monster is prophetised. This is already in the game for units like the Abysian Warlord, Ctisian Lizard King etc.

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Added to shortlist as #prophet [monster nbr] | "monster name"

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Would it be possible to have "go AI" possess a turn limit option?

I think this would be useful in testing mods, choosing to run 5 or 10 turns on automatic pilot, so to speak, and assessing the graphs.

Right now all I get is "GAME OVER". I can't even figure out who won.

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I can't find an extremely important 'wish' for mods on the wishlist:

MORE NAMETYPES

We used to have a few we could use. We now have only 2 nametypes which are free, 127 and 128. Naturally a lot of mods use these. And if we can get more nametypes, can we get a LOT (like hundreds more) so we don't run out. They were supposed to have been extended before but it didn't work out.

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I'll second Edratman's suggestion-I had the same thought myself, last night-(I'd suggest the name 'Blasphemy' to replace the 'Banishment' spell, and 'Fall From Grace' to replace 'Smite'), and also Sombre's nametypes. Both of them are excellent, intuitive suggestions that ought to be included.

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NAMETYPES !! MY KINGDOM FOR NEW NAMETYPES !!

And shouldn't it be interesting to have the following mod commands :

- SPELLS :
- #scale [scale; i.e. "cold" or "order"] [bonus] : allow a spell to be more or less according to the specified scale, like Murdering Winter which is more effective with a high Cold scale.
- #killcaster : the spell kill the mage who cast it ( a bit like Ashdod's "Banquet for the Dead").

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Next patch will give us a bunch of nation and site modding commands:

New nation modding commands:

• #autoundead Dominion reanimates dead like LA Ermor
• #zombiereanim Basic reanimation (ghouls, soulless, longdead) + 15 undead leadership per holy level
• #horsereanim Reanimation of longdead horsemen
• #wightreanim Reanimation of undead Lictors
• #manikinreanim Carrion Woods Pangaea reanimation
• #tombwyrmreanim C'tis reanimation
• #domkill Dominion kills population
• #domunrest Dominion causes unrest
• #templecost Sets gold cost for temples
• #labcost Sets gold cost for labs

New site modding commands:

• #mon Adds a recruitable monster to the site
• #com Adds a recruitable commander to the site
• #clear Clears the site's attributes
• #incscale Increases a scale
• #decscale Decreases a scale

These commands and their usage will be listed in detail in the next modding manual version, which will be included in the coming patch.

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Cool additions. :up: :up:

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WOW.

Seriously. That's awesome.

I know I'll be making at least one Warhammer themed site collection mod now.

The nation commands are a little bit less exciting, because we don't have much control over them - they just replicate existing stuff (we can't mod the undead reanimation tables etc) but being able to change temple and lab costs is going to be pretty huge. It could even be useful in CBM.

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A command for the opposite of #restricted would be useful.

Maybe call it; #notnation <nation number>

It would be useful to not allowed a specific nation to use X spell, X unit, X item


I could really use such command :)

Exampel;

#selectspell 110
#notnation 91
#end

Which doesn't allow nation 91 to use spell 110

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On the Wishlist are the monster modding commands
#clearweapons
and
#cleararmor

Those can allready be done with
#weapon 0
and
#armor "Nothing"

Including this in the next modding manual could be a simpler solution than including a new command (...don't know ...) ;)



For side modding instead of the specific #summon command
#cast [commander type] ["Spell name" | Spell id]

might be not much harder and much more useful, because it would include scrying sides like the well of all waters and allow some new ideas (teleport gates).
-commander type would be -1 for "any commander" and 0 to 8 would be a mage of the according magic path numbered as usual.
(...Again, maybe it's not possible, maybe it is, don't know...)

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What about allow changing sprites of;

- Magic Item Modding
- Magic Site Modding

and

- Temple


With "Magic Item Modding" and "Magic Site Modding" a #spr "imgfile" would be nice.

With "Temple" there could be a #templespr "imgfile"

---------------------------------------------------------------
Weapon & armor modding:

Allow to give weapons/armor the ability to boost magic.

A #magicboost path boost and #gemprod type number would be nice.


Another nice thing would be to mod "misc items".

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I requested this earlier, but someone said that it wouldn't work. There's no "cast a spell" effect on sites. There is "enter to summon X", "enter to scry" and "enter for adventure", but those are all spesific effects independent of each other.

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Just thought of this. Would be a cool way to introduce nation in a deeper level to the game.

Mercenary Modding

#addgroup - adds new group of mercenaries
#name "name" - declares the name of the group
#leader [mon nmbr] - declares who commands the mercenaries
#troops [amount] [mon nmbr] - first number declares how many troops and the other what the monsters are
#startcost [amount] - How much money will they ask when they are available.
#end - always at the end of #addgroup

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hehe I'd love this.. dom3 K needs to get rid of all existing mercs to start with.

so I'd need a command to remove them

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Good idea, Burnsaber.
We would probably also want #leadername. Might also be good to specify magic paths (and maybe even magic items) for the leader.

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items, yes, paths would just be under it's newmonster modding stuff

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Well, I was actually drawing inspiration from the map editing commands, where commander paths can be customized beyond their monster chasis. I know we're talking about modding and not map editing here, but it would still be nice to have the additional customization for mercs. But, even the original list that Burnsaber gave would be a good start.

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yes analytic, if you just create a new monster (you know er can do that :D) with whatever stats/costumization you want you can link it to that already with his idea :D

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I see, Aezeal. You're looking at it more like the way national heroes work. I looked in Edi's DB, and didn't see some of the standard mercs listed in the 'uniquename' column in the 'AllUnits' sheet. But, that's not to say that things couldn't work the way you suggest. I'll concede that it would be more flexible.

I would be happy either way. :)

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Mercs aren't listed in the unique stuff in the DB because the captains are all the same two types for the regular ones. Mercs are hardcoded, so they are not easily pigeonholed into anything particular.

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Hardcoded? That sounds like it might be very, very unlikely to see this kind of commands. Well, at least I brought it up.

Mercenary companies would just kinda be cool way to really force nation in the backround of dom3. Even if no one is actually playing the nation, it still has a effect on the game. *Shrugs*, well, at least we have the #mon site command to make random magic sites that allow recruits of nationals.

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I've seen some mercs when looking through the allview map though.. some seemed commanders from their description. Is there some way do disable them then? I can't think of a command to remove existing troops except by replacing them...

Come to think of it if I replaced them all with dom 3K flavoured mercs it wouldn't be that bad.. except all my indies are about 3x as strong as what mercs usually have but whatever. Does anyone (/me looks hopeful at Edi) have a list of the commanders unitnumbers and the troops unitnumbers.

(could be you just said this was impossible but I'm not totally getting what can be done and what not from your remark)

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Some mercs units overlap poptypes or national units so changing them would be a problem. But there are some mercs whose description says mercs (in both commander and units) so Im guessing that they would not appear anywhere else. They could be safely modified and still be mercs?

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For the purposes of dom3k that wouldn't really matter, since it doesn't use vanilla units anyway.