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CB complete 1.3 and Worthy Heroes should be plenty, although hosting with both is redundant, I think.. I believe WH is included in CB complete.

Anyyyyyyway, you don't even need to enable them when you PLAY the game. You just have to have them installed. The only thing you have to MAKE SURE OF when playing a conceptual(ly) balance(d) game is that CB is ENABLED when you CREATE YOUR PRETENDER.

Otherwise there's a very good chance that when the game starts, it will say you are a cheater and give you an archmage with no extra magic and totally neutral scales, which you don't really want http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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Oh, whsiker, I have a suggestion to make. You are doing a lovely job as host, moderator, administrator, except you should learn to feel comfortable making decisions http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif Just say, "yea CB!" Or even, "nae CB!" Just not both, because then we'll be back where we started. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif I'm worried I might accidentally delete my pretender before the game starts ;D

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Indeed, as the game admin you are all-powerful. Just make arbitrary decisions! And cackle a lot.

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So I'm playing yomi then? But we need to decide on CBM fast or I can't look into pretender creation since CBM also influences that...

So plz ASAP tell me which mods and upload and tell me which nation I'll be playing and give me a day or so to look into it http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

looking forward to playing

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yeah, either way is fine but I need to redo my pretender...(SIGH)

WHY do I need to redo my pretender (besides being called a cheater and getting something stupid instead)?

Since we are all new and havn't played with it, what is different that we need to know that would affect pretender creation?

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some of the pretenders are too useless .. or too automatically the only reasonable choice...
CBmod just adds a few points of cost here and subtracts a few there to try and even this out.... generally any tactic that is valid in one is valid in another.. it's just CBmod tries to make more choices of chasis reasonable choices instead of some being fairly unreasonable...


really i don't care one way or the other ... yeah... just be in charge and decide... add it to the first post.. post that you added it to the first post at the end... and give me 24h and i'll have it uploaded (also it'll have to have a name and exist on llamaserver)

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please please please let me know the final verdict on my nation so I can look into CBM + that nation at least http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

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CBM is a yes.

Aez, I don't care if you play Hinnom. You tell us.

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Hmmm well I'll go for a challenge and try Yomi.. I'll promise not to cry if I loose http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

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Ok CBM is a GO....

I need a time when I can set up my new pretender when all the mods are in place.

Just post it and i'll 'get er done'!!!

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Also, a second point...

Does the complete CBM 1.3 have Worthy Heroes included in it.

As I understand it (and I am not sure) but I THINK there is one aspect of WH that is REAL important to me.

(geeeez, I hate to give it away but will if everyone thinks I should, you guys prob know it better than me anyway)

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Can anyone link me to CBM 1.3? I can only seem to find 1.1

I'm hoping we'll have the game up and be able to start submitting pretenders (well, yours are pretenders) tonight.

Any other details I'm overlooking?

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the thread with CBM 1.3 was high up in the list earlier today it should be easily seen in the mods thread

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http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/thr...?Number=624209

There's the link for the actual download.

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Ok, got it. And to all those keeping score at home, yes, I'm a moron for not finding it sooner.

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Not trying to nag but does the Cbm 1.3 have Worthy Heroes?

I need to know because if it does I may need to change my nation....

Thank You......

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It has worthy heroes.

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Ok. No more race changing, you damn nancies. I'll be out the remainder of the night, but will check in the morning when (hopefully) llama will have the game up.

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What is the name of this game going to be?

Can it be Damn Nancies?

Please?

Pretty . . please? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

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yeah let me know which name it'll be on llama cus my pretender is ready

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well, THIS damn Nancie needs to know if I was allowed to change from R'yleh to Helheim.

I picked R'yleh before we decided on CBM, and let you know in the post above that iF we decided to do that I would want to choose a different nation.

So while I understand you have had a lot to do and appreciate your hard work I would like to have a nation that can take advantage of a mod we decided on AFTER we picked our nations.

But I will live with whatever you decide as this is just a learning expieriance and I have never played either nation anyway and have no hopes of winning this.

( I just want to last 30 turns, thats 11 more than last time) http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/Peace.gif[/img]

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My pretender is ready as well and I'm eager to start - the weather is pretty bad and I have nothing much to do...

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if you change from a water to a land nation how is the "balance" then not too much land and to few water nations?

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Aha, my eagle eye just spotted the fact that Mr Biscuit has in fact posted the game name in the first post. Sneaky. Okay, the game is now ready for people to upload their pretenders. If you're not sure how, take a look in my FAQ.

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Oh, the game name in question is "Jotunland".

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uploaded!

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Can you change the thread name so it starts with Jotunland?

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Am I making R'yleh Pretender or a Helheim Pretender?

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helheim.

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Grudge, if you haven't designed yet, Helheim is a pretty great bless nation http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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I did already and did a bless I learned on IRC channel. Even though I have I think a pretty good setup I have never even looked at this nation.

So I will be blundering thru the game mostly!!!

Thanks though I appreciate the help, and anything else you can tell me will be helpful....

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Just hire a bunch of helhirdings http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

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So... We're all set up and ready to go!

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double blessed heims are not that hard to play really http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

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Game started! Have fun all!

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Method for Helheim:

1. Build sacred troops
2. Script to "kill everything"
3. Repeat

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Game on! . . . I have no ideaaaaaaa what I'm doing with Kailasa http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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I feel screwed.

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Why is that Mr. Biscuit with whiskers?

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ehm... I'm the one playing yomi

(see I have most provinces though.. it's nice when there is an EMPTY province for your lone scout to capture http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif)

why are there empty provinces btw?

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Why, because I forgot to do something important.

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What did you forget?

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Sounds like a PD mind lapse to me...you should lose 1 Whisker for that sir!!

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empty provinces on a map sounds like a bug or something... but maybe there is only that one i haven't seen any at least

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One whisker down!

(forgot to direct my research for two turns.../facepalm)

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I want empty provinces for my scout to capture. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Lucky you Aez. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

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I want empty provinces too, around me mostly heavy cavalry and cataphract provinces, giving me a challenge...

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I (sigh) am on an island and have no provinces to capture...

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Um, guys, I'm a newb and this is my first MP game, so when it was time to choose rules and starting settings I didn't ask anything due to lack of experience. I've been browsing this forum for the past few days and have found that the major exploit is engaging battle with a single mage, using the Mist of Deception spell and retreating afterwards. The spell is bugged and it's effect continues even when if the caster has escaped, massacring enemy or making him to retreat. This way a single mage with the cost of 2 air gems defeits the entire army. Stopping this tactic is nearly impossible even for experienced player, not telling about newbs. (If I said something wrong - correct me.)
I don't want game to be spoiled by something like this, and since the game had only just begun - my request is to forbid players to script the 'retreat' order for the caster of this spell. As I saw, most of the civilized games have restriction for this spell one way or another, or played on Twan's Mist of Deception replacement mod.
Another one often banned exploit is "Overfilling enemy lab" - sending magic items to enemy to make him lose his own items. So maybe we should forbid this one too?
Please tell your opinions and/or suggestions.

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I do hope all exploits are banned in this game, I consider it standard practice really