Re: Wheel of Time - LA CBM Llamaserver - FIGHT !
 

hey, i'll join - i'm about out in 2 of my games- if you can give me until late this evening to come up w/ a pretender... not pangaia, maybe jomon, perhaps arcos or midgard.

Re: Wheel of Time - LA CBM Llamaserver - FIGHT !
 

Ok Archa you're in. Please tell us which nation you chose. I'll restart the game

Re: Wheel of Time - LA CBM Llamaserver - FIGHT !
 

OK lets restart with archaeolept :)

Presumably we will all have to send in our Pretenders again so let us know when :)

Re: Wheel of Time - LA CBM Llamaserver - FIGHT !
 

Restart certainly makes sense after only a couple turns.

Re: Wheel of Time - LA CBM Llamaserver - FIGHT !
 

I've just restarted the game and deleted Pangeas pretender so none of you should have to resend it except for Archaeolept

Re: Wheel of Time - LA CBM Llamaserver - FIGHT !
 

great. i'll get a pretender in this evening... so w/in 12 hrs.

Re: Wheel of Time - LA CBM Llamaserver - FIGHT !
 

Absolute crap.

Re: Wheel of Time - LA CBM Llamaserver - FIGHT !
 

??

pretender submitted for Jomon.

Re: Wheel of Time - LA CBM Llamaserver - FIGHT !
 

Within 12 hours as was promised, what's the prob Kuritza? Thanks for stepping in Arch

Re: Wheel of Time - LA CBM Llamaserver - FIGHT !
 

Game launched

Re: Wheel of Time - LA CBM Llamaserver - FIGHT !
 

hey kheldron, because it was a restart and the first turn, you might want to delay hosting on this just to make sure t'ien chi and utgard don't end up staling on us... :)

Re: Wheel of Time - LA CBM Llamaserver - FIGHT !
 

We only miss Utgard and he's got until tomorrow morning. Hopefully that should be ok :)

Re: Wheel of Time - LA CBM Llamaserver - FIGHT !
 

Hmm, well I sent the turn (Utgard) in this morning I thought but it obviously hasn't arrived or been rejected. I'll send it again this evening. Sorry for the delay....

Re: Wheel of Time - LA CBM Llamaserver - FIGHT !
 

as an admin, is it possible to send out an email reminder (like llama's 6hr warning reminders) to Utgard? Help him remember he's playing...

Re: Wheel of Time - LA CBM Llamaserver - FIGHT !
 

I think there's an automated reminder with Llamaserver 6h before the deadline. That's what I get in other games hosted with Llamaserver but I'll have to check

Re: Wheel of Time - LA CBM Llamaserver - FIGHT !
 

Looks like Caelum wasn't as lucky 2nd time around...

Re: Wheel of Time - LA CBM Llamaserver - FIGHT !
 

Yes.
The cost of restart...

Re: Wheel of Time - LA CBM Llamaserver - FIGHT !
 

went blind w/ your pretender? ouch... i never do that :(

Re: Wheel of Time - LA CBM Llamaserver - FIGHT !
 

Same thing here. Nothing terrible yet, but my position is a whole lot worse than last time.

Re: Wheel of Time - LA CBM Llamaserver - FIGHT !
 

I was wondering if people got something equivalent to the first start as I got exactly the same starting location ! I didn't know if it was something in the map but...well, now I know

Re: Wheel of Time - LA CBM Llamaserver - FIGHT !
 

Different spot for me.

Re: Wheel of Time - LA CBM Llamaserver - FIGHT !
 

Different location as well.
Also, all kinds of unlikely highly upleasant crap that didnt happen first time just occured. Sorry for bringing my bad mood on board, but I love rehosts after a good start.

Re: Wheel of Time - LA CBM Llamaserver - FIGHT !
 

Well if it can soften things a bit I just had a drought, which is as good as it can get for a cold nation :)

Re: Wheel of Time - LA CBM Llamaserver - FIGHT !
 

I don't know if I like my new position better or not. Feels a little less "secure" down the road. About the same on balance. No nasty randoms yet.

Re: Wheel of Time - LA CBM Llamaserver - FIGHT !
 

well, nothing to compare the start to... nothing good or bad has happened; i guess that's good ;p

and i had the same starting location as my test game, and thought they might be set... but then had a different one on a second test game... it could be there are just very few allowed starting positions... of course I could check the .map file ;p

Re: Wheel of Time - LA CBM Llamaserver - FIGHT !
 

Uhm...I was just looking at the magic site settings for this game and noticed no Drain scales were allowed. I hadn't picked up on this earlier and took Drain scales for Agartha. Very sorry to throw yet another wrench in to the game...

I will defer to the group/admin on how to proceed.

Re: Wheel of Time - LA CBM Llamaserver - FIGHT !
 

hmmm that's a poser... I certainly don't want a restart. For most nations it wouldn't matter, balance-wise, but in such a high gem game, all agartha needs is a bit of conj to start absolutely rocking, and the points saved by taking drain allow a very strong Risen Oracle. Maybe some sort of minor balance penalty? like conj can never be your highest research path? (just on your honour). I think that itself would do it - slow down a rush to umbrals and tomb oracles...

Or we can just not worry about it at all :)

Re: Wheel of Time - LA CBM Llamaserver - FIGHT !
 

I didn't take a risen oracle, I actually took a pretty unconventional pretender as far as I know, and I haven't started on Conjuration. Agartha actually seems somewhat crappy as Ironhawk and I were just discussing on IRC. You need Darkness to take advantage of your native troops, but to cast it you need Construction to get boosters, then you need Conjuration for the summons.

Anyway, really sorry about this guys - I truly did not mean to mess the game up.

Re: Wheel of Time - LA CBM Llamaserver - FIGHT !
 

well, w/out a rush to conj, drain hurts... so while it is unthematic to the game, as an honest mistake, I can't say it bothers me. :)

Re: Wheel of Time - LA CBM Llamaserver - FIGHT !
 

Well it's definitely unthematic but to say the truth I want this game finally going so without blatant advantage to Agartha...:re:

Re: Wheel of Time - LA CBM Llamaserver - FIGHT !
 

Mictlan has asked for a delay this weekend.
furthermore, I'll be out of town on monday so I just turned the game to 48h hosting. I'll reset the timer to 24h on tuesday.

Re: Wheel of Time - LA CBM Llamaserver - FIGHT !
 

I am not sure what you meant. I don't mind re-starting again or doing anything else to make sure people feel its fair. When I start to conquer the world though I don't want people complaining :)

Re: Wheel of Time - LA CBM Llamaserver - FIGHT !
 

he's saying that it gives you no especial advantage, and to keep playing :)

Re: Wheel of Time - LA CBM Llamaserver - FIGHT !
 

Ok, for what its worth, I will abide by archaeolept's suggestion of not letting conjuration ever be my highest path. and i don't have a Tomb Oracle so that's not an issue.

Re: Wheel of Time - LA CBM Llamaserver - FIGHT !
 

Hey, maybe we could have a quick gameplay explanation (I'm not a newb, wait, don't rush me!).

How can a drain scale be leveraged into an advantage and what is the relation to Conj?

Re: Wheel of Time - LA CBM Llamaserver - FIGHT !
 

well, taking drain gives you design points, but makes research slow. Usually the disadvantages outweigh the advantages, but w/ certain nations w/ very high research mages, like Bogarus, it can make sense. The Idea would be that you make up for drain by using those points to accelerate your early expansion.

In this case, though, Agartha has some very good summons fairly early in conj., so in theory they could try and ignore having good research and just aim for umbrals and tomb oracles. Which would be a strategy - however, really, Agartha still needs a bunch of research (like construction, and darkness), so it is still problematic taking drain.

Re: Wheel of Time - LA CBM Llamaserver - FIGHT !
 

Kek. And I'm all for another restart, actually!

:P

Re: Wheel of Time - LA CBM Llamaserver - FIGHT !
 

Something went wrong, there was no delay over the weekend, I staled but it is ok with me, and now it shows the turn shoud have been excuted yesterday and we are still waiting for it.

Re: Wheel of Time - LA CBM Llamaserver - FIGHT !
 

turns on llamaserver are delayed, as the email provider seems to be having issues; possibly due to hurricane Ike.

Re: Wheel of Time - LA CBM Llamaserver - FIGHT !
 

Yes there seem to be some poblems as the timer has already been reset on 24h while I'm sure I left it to 48h on sunday.
I'm really sorry about all this but there's not much any of us can do about it, especially if it's a Ike problem :-/

Re: Wheel of Time - LA CBM Llamaserver - FIGHT !
 

Llama is based in the UK so I'd be surprised if it's anything to do with Ike.

But he is away on holiday and many of the games are having problems.... So it may be a while before we find out what is wrong.

Re: Wheel of Time - LA CBM Llamaserver - FIGHT !
 

yah, all his games are on hiatus for a bit it seems - go outside and enjoy the autumn ;p

llamaserver is in the UK, but it looks like his email host is in houston.

Re: Wheel of Time - LA CBM Llamaserver - FIGHT !
 

Ok Llama has come back and game is on again. I'll postpone the turn for a few hours as we miss bogarus.

Re: Wheel of Time - LA CBM Llamaserver - FIGHT !
 

bogarus was still last and unsubmitted before llama's server went down... so i think he's AWOl. He'll have received llama's notification as well - still, a few hours won't hurt.

then we can get back to playing the game :)

Re: Wheel of Time - LA CBM Llamaserver - FIGHT !
 

We Agarthan's can't see too well, but it seems we have been invaded by some oversized swamp snakes and a sneaky assassin. We vow this war will cost the nation of Pythium dearly.

Re: Wheel of Time - LA CBM Llamaserver - FIGHT !
 

I had to stay overtime in the office again, and again it resulted in a staled turn - 2nd time now. Thanks for waiting, really...

Re: Wheel of Time - LA CBM Llamaserver - FIGHT !
 

Did you ask for an extension?

Agartha is proud to announce we took Babylon from 9 hydras, 2 serpent priests, a healthy PD, and a scout prophet.

Hopefully Pythium has learned its lesson and will not force the two of us to waste our resources early in the game when there is still plenty of independent lands left to share.

Re: Wheel of Time - LA CBM Llamaserver - FIGHT !
 

changing the quickhost time to 30 hrs would prevent such an event happening again. sometimes you have a long day.

Re: Wheel of Time - LA CBM Llamaserver - FIGHT !
 

Kuritza I would have been happy to postpone...if only you had asked.:(
I'm really sorry but I don't stand idly in front of my computer waiting on every turn to check if everyone submit it on time. My wife, baby, job and friends prevent me from ever being able to do that.

We can go on a 36h hour schedule if it suits everyone better

Re: Wheel of Time - LA CBM Llamaserver - FIGHT !
 

Right, you didn't mention the casualties of that battle though:

44 of your shades to 0 of my troops. Well, I guess you did wipe out my 10point-pd.

I'm quite happy with the way that battle went and I look forward to our future encounters. :)