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Other than that, some people :re: may have stopped submitting turns when they realized what was going on. Personally, I was not very annoyed by the interruption - though I think poor Llama has gremlins. :P I would, however, be a little annoyed at being severely penalized for hesitating to send in turns to a malfunctioning server.....

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I don't know if it's connected but I am now unable to validate a "postpone hosting" order with my admin password. :hurt::angel

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As llama has said, the server is down right now.

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How come I got a new turn AND still getting revised from old turn?

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From the Llamaserver -


I feel bad, every time you leave town, we immediately break your stuff. :shock:

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Okay all, the system is even downer. I turned the computer off and on again, and it wouldn't restart. So maybe the bizarre behaviour (I couldn't work out what was going on) was a result of a hardware fault or something. Hard to say.

I can't work out how to fix it (I suspect it's not fixable), but fortunately my housemate is something of a legend and is setting me up some virtual partition on his server. If that works we'll be sorted, and if not I'll run it off my lab computer for a while.

The conclusion is that it looks like the server might still be down for a day or few, but hopefully not much more than that. Thanks everyone for being so patient.

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Didn't you have this kind of behaviour before? Or was that somebody else? I somehow think I'm having a deja-vu here.

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Yeah, I did, a few weeks ago (as in, I couldn't turn it on). I jiggled the RAM around and that seemed to fix it. This time it didn't fix it though. Maybe it's a cracked connection or something on the motherboard and last time it was just the jiggling which happened to make it work again. In any case, the computer at its minimum is just the motherboard and the RAM, and I've tried three different RAM sticks to no avail.

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It could be an overheating issue. There is a heat conducting gel connecting the fans and the motherboard that over time can degrade. If this gel is replaced it could solve the overheating issue.

Thank you for all your efforts. The LLama server is a nice resource.

Shrapnel Games should look into makeing a server available. Like blizzard's BATTLENET

BDoc

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i can assure you that it is not an issue of heat conducting gel between fans and motherboard :)

symptoms aren't those of overheating anyways, as it does not boot up after having cooled down. It does sound most likely to be a flaky motherboard, as you've swapped out memory and it is rarely the proc that dies. swapping out parts is the only way to really find out, though.

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If every gamer paid $.50 a month.. that would be like $100 a month (last I hear we were over 200 users on llamabeast) we could afford a commercial hosting service instead of trashing llamas.

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In a year or so I will be moving house and so I'll need a new server then (I can hardly take advantage of my housemate's server at that point). I will probably ask for donations like Gandalf did when his exploded before. It doesn't need much really. Being as I already have most of the parts, it would be £100-£200.

I'm hoping to get things up and running again tomorrow. I'm just copying data and stuff across at the moment.

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Just put a new motherboard in it. What? $150. You should be able to raise that easily, though I am broke at the moment, but I did send you $20 at some point I believe.

I have a similarly broken down PC here with me at the moment. Such a pain to replace the motherboard though. All those screws.

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The thing is is a small-form-factor box. I'm not sure if you can replace the motherboards in those. I should check I guess. Anyway, that's more of a long term worry. I should get the replacement working soon. Actually it's looking like it'll probably be tomorrow though. It's taking many many hours to upload all the game files.

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llamabeast = Thanked 198 times in 73 posts.

:shock:

Also, Sir Llama has more forum karma than KO. >.>

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not too hard too see, so KO will get tons of thanks whenever he releases that most holy Dev wisdom,

llama just gets lots of thanks whenever Llamaserver breaks down, guess it's just a matter of who milks it more :p (joke)

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Actually llama just gets a ton of thanks pretty much regardless of what he posts. ;)

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Everybody love Lamas!!

Example 1)

Example 2)

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Or did we all drink the LLAMA KOOL-AID??

http://salamandercandy.files.wordpre...llama-obey.jpg

Yes great Llama we will wait and click the Thanks button.

BDOC

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Lol tifone, i can't stop laughing about the Dalai Llama

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http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/6...gangvn2.th.jpghttp://img513.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif

Yes LLama we serve you.........

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I Got A Turn Email!!! Woohoo

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Er, that picture was a bit scary BDOC!

Yeah, unfortunately the turns that just got sent out may turn out to be a bit funny. I'm not quite sure what happened, but it seemed like it hosted some games twice in a row.

Anyway, I've got it running on a different computer now, so the only problem is that it seems to have got itself in a bit of a state before it crashed, so it needs some nursing back to health. I'm off climbing tonight, so I will try to get it all sorted tomorrow morning. It'll be a relief to get it back on its feet!

I just tried to send you all an e-mail to the effect of this post, but it failed. Ho hum. Bloody computers.

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Oh my god, BDOC, I was the one posting (quite) funny images about everything... but I've got a strong opponent in this now :fight:
:D

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LOL fencing smiley faces!!

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/7...toyaou4.th.jpghttp://img201.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif

My name is BDOC you killed my server prepare to die!!!

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Should be getting back online in the next few minutes...

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Huzzah, two things to celebrate. One the election is over and Llama Server will be restored.:D

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Ehm... My admin password doesn't work on Principe. Also plz don't host it!! While all the turns are in and the quickhost is on and the forced hosting was set on nov3, it didn't host automatically which is great as my players may need some time to send the right turn in case they sent multiple revised ones.

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I think there are going to be alot of games that will need some kind of roll back potentially...

Not sure what's going on, but it looks like in the Buggy1 game it claims it has received turn 43 from everyone, when I know for a fact I never sent in a turn file for turn 43.

Also in Buggy1 Pelthin, the game creator, has left the game and we were wondering if you (llamabeast that is) could set me as the game admin? Check the Buggy thread for confirmation of this from other players, and thanks for everything.

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My admin password for Sovarinthy isn't working either. Any help, llamabeast?

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There may indeed be some issues. Hopefully the admin passwords should start working in a few minutes.

licker - I'll pm you the password.

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Aaaargh. Okay, I haven't got time to fix it. Sorry to get your hopes up guys. It's really annoying, I know for sure I could get it all sorted given another half an hour, but I have to go - my brother's wedding is in the morning and I can't leave it any later to set off. Sorry!

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Take your time lb, you've done so much for us already no one is going to be upset about another delay.

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Yep, absolutely no problem, and 'gratz n' best wishes to the brother :)

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Just got Victoria turn. Is it for real?

Llama I'd really like to thank you for your heroic efforts on bringing your server (or its replacement) to life.

I would like to report an issue: For last turn, I've sent two .2h files to the server. First one was a half done turn (sent on the 29/10) and a second one (sent on the 30/10) complete with my orders. I still have the email "conversation" saved in my gmail account.
Unfortunately the server has hosted with my half done turn causing me a catastrophic turn
Is it possible to rehost so that the server use my finished .2h file?

I've sent you a detailed PM. Hope its possible to fix that.

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@ Wraith

Llama said some games were accidentally hosted and may need rollbacks... maybe it could be your solution? I think the admin should be able to do that as soon as llama has fixed our beloved server... :)

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But what does rollback actually do?- Does it rehost with the .2h files the server already has?- In that case the rollback would probably not fix the issue since it might use the same .2h file (the unfinished one) it used for the current hosting.

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Directly from Llamaserver's description of rollback ;)

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Thank you Tifone. So this means that its possible to rollback and have only players who suffered a similar fate to mine submit the turn. right?

That is really helpful. Thanks!

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Unlikely. I don't think there's a way to prevent the other players from resubmitting their turn. And there's not a way to really distinguish the ones who had their orders processed correctly from the ones who didn't... :( (notice that I trust the community, it's just that the doubt may remain for the entire game, as Llamabeast points out)

Anyway I obviously suggest you to wait for Llamabeast, surely he can give you better informations about that. :smirk:

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The game is down to six players. One of them had a stale turn so I think I will consult with the rest of the players and if no one object roll back the turn. If someone objects well, we'll just have to accept this as something like an unlucky event message:
"
Your lab at xxx was destroyed.
The powers that be has intervened and this turn your followers have not followed your orders.
"

:)

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Your game may be different than the one I am in or perhaps others.

But I DO know of one player in our game that sent his turn in twice during the mess and it never took.

All of a sudden out of the blue a new TURN 43 came in (that was the same turn that was out when the meltdown happened).

He said he loaded it to make sure that he didn't need to redo his turn because of the mess...HOWEVER it now read in the game Turn 44 and said he staled.

A couple of hours later a turn 44 came in and also said he staled.

You guys do what you want...but in our game EVERONE is at war with someone and when its NO fault of 5 people or 1 person I think you roll the turn back.

If it was 5 of you and the one person had a wonderful thing happen to him you certainly wouldn't take it as a 'your Lab was destroyed' event. You would vote to roll it back.

As I said, its your game do what you want but I know that if they don't roll it back in our game at least 1 person will just say AI me and I don't blame him.:eek:

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What's up with llamaserver?
I see on the page that it's back and I've gotten a turn file from one game but not from the other.
So should I play the turn I got or should I wait or ...?

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There's a message here:

http://www.llamaserver.net/index.cgi

I'd play the turn because ... hey what else are you gonna do, when the llamaserver's down?

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hmm i just got a "llamaserver has recieved revised turn 25 for Jomon" email. That was last turn... we've all recieved turn 26...

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Its pretty much messed for everything I think.

I'm planning on rolling back in all my games (or asking for it) to the last turn before the server died, I'm not sure what else to do really.

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well, the turn's i've received in my 3 games have all been fine. rollbacks should only be done if a game actually was ****ed up, like giving someone a forced stale.

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I'm just off out, so haven't got time right now to read all these posts. However, I just thought I'd let you know that the server is now back up and running normally. Hurrah!

I had abortive attempts to get it going both on Tuesday and Wednesday, which explains it appearing to come to life then, and then not doing anything.

Also please read the e-mail you should all just have received. The only really potentially messy situation is if you were one of those who got sent new turn files both on Tuesday and Wednesday. In that case, it's very important that you delete any 2h file you may have produced from Tuesday's turn, and take your turn using Wednesday's file.

I don't anticipate many games will need rollbacks. It may have looked crazy from the outside (it sent a lot of mad e-mails), but I don't think too much crazy stuff actually happened to the games in the end.

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Oh yeah - I you think you sent a turn in, check it's arrived. I had to delete a mailbox full at one point because it had got itself in a tangle. I think it had already read most of them, but maybe not all.