Re: Noobs vs. Vets, LA, CBM, open recruitment/discussion
 

All that you need to do, is open the .map file and add "#specstart <nation nbr> <province nbr>" for every province/nation you want to use. I've not done it before but it would probably look something like this:

#specstart 1 1
#specstart 2 2
#specstart 3 3
#specstart 4 4
etc

It might want the <> around the numbers but I don't think so. In any case that is not so hard, you just have to know the nation numbers (they're in edi's database) and pick appropriate start provinces.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets, LA, CBM, open recruitment/discussion
 

That I'd call too big, I was thinking something under 10 provs per player.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets, LA, CBM, open recruitment/discussion
 

Ouch, sorry, I have to exit the game. I was expecting to be thrown off another game soon but looks like it'll last a bit more. I'll sub eventually if needed, but I can't afford the time to start another game :(
Sorry, guys. Have fun :)

Re: Noobs vs. Vets, LA, CBM, open recruitment/discussion
 

No prob, I'll move you to standby, I'd like to have 8 noobs in and 4 in the alternate/standby slots as well as 4 vets (decided) and 2 in the alternate slots before we begin voting (18 all together, check the main post regularly). Almost there.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets, LA, CBM, open recruitment/discussion
 

What map did you have in mind exactly? Go ahead and let me know which one you think most approriate, I'm sure your opionion will carry much weight when it comes time to vote on one.

The only thing to remember with such a small map is that hostilities will break out much sooner, perhaps making a rush much more likely.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets, LA, CBM, open recruitment/discussion
 

Well if one of the vets makes a rush he's opening himself up to be smacked down by the combined forces of 2 or 3 noobs.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets, LA, CBM, open recruitment/discussion
 

That is certainly a possibility.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets, LA, CBM, open recruitment/discussion
 

Nah, Noobs will side with Vets. Almost a certainty.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets, LA, CBM, open recruitment/discussion
 

I thought the entire purpose of this game was to pit n00bs against vets? Thus, they will hopefully defend their own to preserve their advantage.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets, LA, CBM, open recruitment/discussion
 

That's right, that is and was my original intention, to pit very green noobs against the best of the best. Some of you though, have suggested breaking up the game into competing combinations of noob and vet teams, but I'll let everyone decide in the upcoming vote. I personally don't think an 8 man noob team will be a problem, but I want to be fair to everyone.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets, LA, CBM, open recruitment/discussion
 

I think he was joking :)

Re: Noobs vs. Vets, LA, CBM, open recruitment/discussion
 

lol, my bad :p

Re: Noobs vs. Vets, LA, CBM, open recruitment/discussion
 

Yes. I was joking. Don't take my posts too seriously. I am usually joking about something in them.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets, LA, CBM, Vote in progress.
 

As we've gotten about as many players as we are likely to get at least for now, I'll go ahead and conduct the vote/poll. Everyone listed on the main/first post please send me a single PM with your vote on the following three game options/settings.

1. Your Map Preference, or indicate NP for no preference.

2. Teams: Either the original 8 noobs vs 4 vets idea, or as some have suggested 3x3x3x3 (4 competing teams of 2 noobs and 1 vet each), which would necessitate we rename the game Noobs and Vets

3. Whether or not to allow inclusion of LA CBM mod nations (yes or no). Keep in mind, that if we use them, everyone will need to download a copy of whatever nations players are using.

When the results are in, they'll be posted on the main post and at the end of this thread. Those on the fence may opt in or out, and if we've got enough participants, nation selection will begin.

In the meantime, anyone else wishing to join may do so, still likely to need alternates/replacements.

Thanks.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets, LA, CBM, Vote in progress.
 

1. NP
2. 1st option only, I'm not interested at all in mixed teams
3. nah, what for? we have enough normal nations

Re: Noobs vs. Vets, LA, CBM, Vote in progress.
 

Actually I would prefer not to play in this game.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets, LA, CBM, Vote in progress.
 

1. NP
2. Either is fine
3. No additions please

Re: Noobs vs. Vets, LA, CBM, Vote in progress.
 

Technically we're supposed to be Pming him here... no big deal though, really.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets, LA, CBM, Vote in progress.
 

1. NP (maybe some balanced map is best with fixed start positions for the vets and for the newbs)

2. 1st option

3. No additions

Re: Noobs vs. Vets, LA, CBM, Vote in progress.
 

I'll remove you, no problem.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets, LA, CBM, Vote in progress.
 

Yeah, I prefer PM's but whatayagonnado.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets, LA, CBM, Vote in progress.
 

1. No preference
2. 8x4
3. I dont understand what you are asking. If you are asking if I want CBM, then yes. If you asking if I want additional special modded nations, then no.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets, LA, CBM, Vote in progress.
 

Same vote as Ironhawk.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets, LA, CBM, Vote in progress.
 

This game should prove interesting.

A good way of allowing the vets to show how good they really are, and noobs can prove they are worth their salt by taking on such formidable, unstoppable opponents. :)

Re: Noobs vs. Vets, LA, CBM, Vote in progress.
 

1. Alexander

2. No Preference.
Option 1. I get to pound on a vet (sweet revenge).
Option 2. I get to learn tips from a vet. A Win Win.

3. No additions, looking forward to learning more about the late age.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets, LA, CBM, Vote in progress.
 

Me too.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets, LA, CBM, Nation selection underway.
 

Results of the 11 votes recieved are reflected on the main post. Choose your nations now, first come, first serve. I claim R'leyh though. Once we've got all nations in (which will also reflect your decidedness), we'll begin pretender uploads.

Thanks

Re: Noobs vs. Vets, LA, CBM, Nation selection underway.
 

I would like Utgard

Re: Noobs vs. Vets, LA, CBM, Nation selection underway.
 

T'ien Ch'i please.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets, LA, CBM, Nation selection underway.
 

I'll hold off and fill in if we have any gaps.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets, LA, CBM, Nation selection underway.
 

FYI, 1.41 has an issue with LA agartha's blindlords having A8 magic. Either we could hold off till 1.42 or we could all just dive in and fix our mods.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets, LA, CBM, Nation selection underway.
 

I would like Gath

Re: Noobs vs. Vets, LA, CBM, Nation selection underway.
 

Pangaea please.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets, LA, CBM, Nation selection underway.
 

I prefer Ermor, but if people are against having them, I'll be Midgard.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets, LA, CBM, Nation selection underway.
 

I haven't mentioned any restrictions in terms of nations, I don't see why you can't have Ermor, that is unless anyone has objections or perhaps people think it better it go to a noob.

Depending upon how many vets are active and decided (possible 5), we may need to increase the number of noobs to 10 to compensate, or one vet can go to standby, we'll see.

With regard to the error Trumantor mentioned, if the fix is easy, I suppose we all could do it, or if no one chooses Argartha, it won't be an issue, or we could go back to the earlier CBM, or wait for a newer one. Didn't plan to begin the hosting anyway till Friday next week (Feb. 6), as I'll be out of town on a business conference. But we could start sooner if we get all nations and pretenders in before then.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets, LA, CBM, Nation selection underway.
 

If it matters, Zeldor has fixed the errors in a version he made up for the madness game. If necessary we could use that version.

I would rather the vet team not have an LA ermor, but I'm not going to worry about it too much, especially with R'lyeh on our team.

Team Noob: A lot of our chance of success relies on organization. We are going to want to communicate as to where we are and what we're doing every turn. This means we need a way to talk to each other during the turn, therefore relying on the in-game messaging system isn't going to work, unless we're excessively organized.

I'm not going to try to enforce a specific strategy for the game or anything, but I think we should commit from the beginning to declaring what provinces we're taking every turn and sharing as much intel as possible. To that end, I think it would be best if we all had each other's email addresses for ease of communication. If people would rather we stick to pming instead that's fine, but it would make it slightly more difficult to do team-wide communication, and possibly give away information to the enemy if we accidentally message the wrong person.

Whatever method of communication we end up using, it would really be best to try to check on it at least once every turn so the rest of the team knows what's going on. We absolutely do NOT want any early blunders with our own armies running into each other. Anyway, if you could please state your preference in the thread that would be great.

I of course would prefer emails, for ease of mass-messaging.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets, LA, CBM, Nation selection underway.
 

No preference. I'm an alternate anyway.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets, LA, CBM, Nation selection underway.
 

Maybe skype (or other) conference-chats will help you. I think it is a good option.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets, LA, CBM, Nation selection underway.
 

You're right, I should have mentioned that too. A conference chat like you said or a private room in IRC are also possibilities. Though with something like that it does require us all to be connected at the same time. In the early phase of the game I'm not sure if we'll need to go quite to that level of organized communication, but it would definitely help when things get going in earnest. Thanks for the suggestion Ano.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets, LA, CBM, Nation selection underway.
 

Well the obvious first step is finding out peoples' time zone so we know how tough it will be to get together for IRC or what have you.
Just to start off, I'm US Pacific TZ

Re: Noobs vs. Vets, LA, CBM, Nation selection underway.
 

I have no objection to email.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets, LA, CBM, Nation selection underway.
 

US central time zone here. Not that I necessarily act like it, I tend to be around more later in the day than early. From 7 am-4 in the afternoon, for example, is pretty much the worst possible time to try and reach me.

Edit: I also want to have a little bit of a discussion with Team Noob™ before we get going to get an overall feeling of what each player is going to try to do. Again, I'm not going to try to completely plan a cohesive strategy for us. I don't know enough about all the nations for one thing, and I think it would probably be less fun for everyone. But I have a specific idea in mind about how I'm going to play, and I'd like to see if anyone else has specific intentions so hopefully we can figure out ways to support each other.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets, LA, CBM, Nation selection underway.
 

Just thought of it...
Probably the best option for you will be organizing a temporary forum board. There're plenty of free board services available nowadays. It was very useful for cooperation in times I played another PBEM-game, Mafia and I'm sure it will be more convenient for you than both e-mail and chat because you will have full message history easily available and won't have to be online at the same time to talk.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets, LA, CBM, Nation selection underway.
 

That's a great idea. Any suggestions for something that would be super easy to set up?

Re: Noobs vs. Vets, LA, CBM, Nation selection underway.
 

Well, nevermind about the Ermor thing. I forgot that I am an alternate, so it doesn't really matter.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets, LA, CBM, Nation selection underway.
 

Well, I am Russian and I always used russian free board services such as www.borda.ru. Probably you want English as the language of your forum so it won't suit you. But I'm sure there're such services

Re: Noobs vs. Vets, LA, CBM, Nation selection underway.
 

Here are some of the options I found:
http://www.forumotion.com/
http://www.createforum.com/tos.html
http://www.forumer.com/

and many others - just ask Google;)

Re: Noobs vs. Vets, LA, CBM, Nation selection underway.
 

I would like Jomon please

In regards to communication, I'm fine with forums or email or IM software for that sort of thing (I have AIM and MSN and ICQ), but... and not implying that any of the vets would stoop so LOW as to do such a thing... *grin* if you go for forums, a passworded one might make sense, if we're going to be putting details of strategy and such on it.

Re: Noobs vs. Vets, LA, CBM, Nation selection underway.
 

What are the teams after all? And which CBM version are we using?

Re: Noobs vs. Vets, LA, CBM, Nation selection underway.
 

Sorry for the lateness, but I'm just not feeling too motivated for this. I would like to withdraw. Hopefully since I'm an "alternate" this isn't a problem. I think though that being in 3 team games at once might be more than even a history major has time for. :)