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Lol

I was unsure about that one, played a test game to find out that is meant no recruitable independents (except for those that come from sites)

Surely early enough for a restart rather than lose someone already?

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well... we could just rollback. if everyone is ok with it and burnsaber still wants to play.

i've turned off the quickhost until we decide.

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I don't object to a rollback

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Wow. That's a huge hit to the game.

I personally find it inexcusable that they did no do test games, to figure out the map. I would object to a rollback, but will go with the majority.

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Fine by me.

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Well, in my defense. I did test games, but I put independent strength to 0 since I thought that was the point of no_independents.

But it seems that a year in military service did not only rust my Dom3 skills, but also my common sense. :doh:

Omnirozon just send me a PM that we could rollback, and if that's not too much of a bother, I'd like try again. I think I paid for my mistake by revealing my pretender. (would you guys be so kind and not research Dust to Dust? :D)

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sure we won't... ;)

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ok. well i rolledback.

according to the llamaserver, its a good idea to delete your current 2h files, otherwise weird things can happen if you send a turn 2 2h file in for a turn 1 turn.

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hmm only 3 hours to go and 4 players still not submitted turns. Hope this doesn't turn from 1 player wiping on turn 1 to 4 players stal(l)ing on turn 1.

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yeah its a very short hosting period after the rollback? I could easily have staled, one of the few days I logged on before work

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that is rather short... well, i've postponed by 12 hours to give everyone time.

hell, i postponed it this morning and then left for work, had I not checked the forum by chance, i might have stalled due to not getting home in time :o

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The admin generally gives RAND type games a bump each turn, like "Turn 10 complete", to keep the thread on the first page. (nudge, nudge).

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I don't think the admin does that to keep the thread on the first page. I think it was because Pasha's RAND games were being manually hosted, and the host needed to let players know deadlines.

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doh sorry thought I submitted my turn, I did it hours ago... just submitted.

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Just saying, a turn bump would be nice.

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certainly.

so how's everyone feel about their empires of waste :D

I like the style. its so different, you really have to play differently. i actually think the typical "land grab" strategy isn't trump here. saving gold, getting an early research lead, and building a fortress may be a stronger move in a game like this. land really isn't all that valuable early on.

i'm almost thinking about starting another game on the same map, but maybe with indies and diplo :D

i do miss the AARs and talking **** to other players :)

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It's different, for sure. The Unique Indies are nothing to scoff at either. Quite a surprise.

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Not feeling the angst, desolation, despair or heat which would be thematic for a desert setting. Maybe heat and death 3 scales in all indy provinces would do it.

I fail to see land in bulk having any value in this game, unless you have growth 3 scales and decades elapse. Expansion is more of a means of scouting out opponents, establishing some sort of border framework and conducting tentative diplomacy as we are not allowed to communicate. The greatest benefit is in trying to claim prime provinces. That in turn will lead to a few interesting scenarios, where this "silent" diplomacy will then commence. Someone that attacks you obviously wants war. Someone that doesn't advance too close to your center of power probably is cool with your continued existence for the time being.

Having score graphs off, might have been an idea.

It would also be cool if a person that turns on AI doesn't give away his identity in the game.

You are saying this based on play testing the map of course. Not implying you are any specific nation that might have done a lot of site searching. :re:

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Actually yes, score graphs off would have been good. Can't say that I'm feeling the love for the setting, but it's early days yet.

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Well, there are spots of forests and regular territory for income. I can see wars being waged for them.

The waste does make for good buffer though. :P

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Yeah, it's kind of goofy sending armies out to conquer provs that yield 7 or 8 gold. It's a very weird game.

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But they make great buffers. Plus, you need to cut through some of the waste to get to the sparse income spots.

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toasty!!!

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I'm going to my sister's wedding thursday, so I'd need the game on hold from wednesday to monday.

This is certainly proving to be intresting game.

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ok. we can take a break from Wed to Mon I think

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ahh, c'mon. We have to get another turn in before the break.

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Cool deal. We got the turn in. Now I have 5 days to ponder.

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One more turn before the break. Could it be?

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Who knows? My last chance to do SP turns this week is tomorrow morning about 14 hours from posting this.

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I hate to delay the turns even more, but I've got to go to JHUMUNC from Thursday to Sunday. The latest I can send in a turn is Thursday morning (EST), and I should be able to send in turns again starting Sunday afternoon.

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Well, I guess this has gone from an everyday game, to a once in a while game. Whatever. Don't any of you have laptops?

Don't mind me, sorry. I'm in a bad mood from some other games.
Another delay is doable. Sub would be even nicer though.

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And the game is back on track. Cool. Should we try to make this the longest 24 hour host game in history? I think I could keep up.

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I actually set it to 48 hours whenever we had calls for delays last week. We've just been pretty good about being quick on turns.

I must say, this is one of the fastest turning mid-games I've ever been in. Usually by this period, many people are not getting turns in until the 6 hour mark. Must be the no diplo and vast stretches of waste, there's just not a whole lot to mull over.

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Cool. Let's keep it up. I like fast games.

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Let's see if we can't get one more turn in before Thursday, shall we?

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Well, I'm off. Can you turn off quickhost so I know I won't stale?

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certainly

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So... who is out? I notice that there are only five active players left in the game. Usually the players reveal themselves when they are beaten in RAND type games.

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But, I guess this is not the case in this game.

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And quickhost should probabaly be turned back on.

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I was Pythium, butted heads early with Abysia and we sieged each others capitals then Abysia went AI, I hung on for a while but the ai nver managed anything and we ended up in a doom inducing siege stalemate until I finally went AI too.

Had I not managed to recruit 100 gladiators for fort defence the turn I saw Abysia heading to me, he would have quickly taken my capital, as it was his sizable force couln't damage my walls and handful of units I had down at his couldn't hurt his walls.

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Thanks Inca. Not many AARs on this game.

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On another note, I've found a City of the Damned. My explorers shall pillage the site until there is no more treasure to loot!

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Having all of the terrain be wasteland makes site searching a bit.. boring. I keep finding the same sites all over and over again.

Perhaps the next game could incorporate the magic site mod?

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Yeah, not a ton of sites. Though I did find one very interesting one.

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bump

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City of the Damned was a nice find, though I'm just hoping I pull a Chalice or 10000 gold out randomly.

I can hope, can't I?

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bump

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From the score graphs, looks like Midgard and Gath are going at each other.

Can't tell how it's going to turn out yet, though.

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since midgard went AI really early in the game (for no apparent reason), I would reckon Gath will come out ahead on that one.

on another note, as admin i've put us on a 72 hour schedule. We are a little overdue for it.