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Trumanator February 2nd, 2009 02:20 AM

Re: Yang: Newbie game EA CoD defaults - Upload Pretenders
 
All will fall before Jormungand, the World Serpent! They will be subjects of the Oreiads and Eunuchs of the Priestesses.

P3D February 2nd, 2009 07:14 AM

Re: Yang: Newbie game EA CoD defaults - Upload Pretenders
 
So,

what should I do to join? Just sending the pretender file to the server is enough?

pyg February 2nd, 2009 09:37 AM

Re: Yang: Newbie game EA CoD defaults - Upload Pretenders
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by P3D (Post 671467)
So,

what should I do to join? Just sending the pretender file to the server is enough?

Yes, you just mail your .2h pretender file from savedgames/newlords/ to pretenders@llamaserver.net with Yanging as the subject line.

Juffos February 2nd, 2009 11:58 AM

Re: Yang: Newbie game EA CoD defaults - Upload Pretenders
 
True, I have some experience under my belt already, though I wouldn't classify myself as one of the "vets."

Yomi is considered to be one of the less-mighty nations, and I chose them for balance because some of the players in this game probably are playing multiplayer for their first time.

Redeyes February 2nd, 2009 02:52 PM

Re: Yang: Newbie game EA CoD defaults - Full (starting soon)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by licker (Post 671398)
I slightly prefer upping it, so if you are getting mixed results between 45 and 55 why not pick the middle?

Rather not.
0,50 has the highest possible variance in a binominal distribution.
It would be completely opposed to what I want ;)

pyg February 2nd, 2009 06:12 PM

Re: Yang: Newbie game EA CoD defaults - Upload Pretenders
 
The current setting is Magic Sites - 55. I have licker, Redeyes, and Trumanator in favor plus statttis somewhere in between. Only qio and myself were not in favor. 3.5 to 2. Sound OK?

Just waiting on pretenders from Alpine Joe, Redeyes, and statttis, then the game will start.

llamabeast February 2nd, 2009 06:30 PM

Re: Yang: Newbie game EA CoD defaults - Upload Pretenders
 
You've been unlucky, pyg, with all the crazy discussion for such a straightforward game! There is not normally such controversy over a game setting. Incidentally, although it is much more common to leave it at the default value, I don't think it really matters what option you go for. You should feel free though, as the game organiser, to be as draconian as you like in going with what you want rather than what your players want.

qjo, please do not go so crazy in future. You say this is not as bad as when you really get flaming - that's not really relevant, your tone was still out of place in a friendly newbie game. Or indeed on this forum in general. This forum is, on the whole, an exceptionally civil place, so you should aim to be more polite than is the norm in some parts of the internet.

Hopefully things will run smoothly from now.

pyg February 2nd, 2009 06:54 PM

Re: Yang: Newbie game EA CoD defaults - Upload Pretenders
 
Tolkien brought up the question of diplomacy and nobody, including myself, responded. Anyway, with such a high stakes game (no second place) I think it's odd to expect good diplomatic behavior. In fact it would be good role playing on the part of many [all] nations to make and break agreements as it serves them. On the other hand it is difficult to separate our real selves from our game self when our game self was just brutally betrayed by an ally. That disappointment can really hurt. Anyway, those are my thoughts. I'm in favor of anything goes and no matter what anyone tells me I'm only ever trusting GrudgeBringer ;-)

qio February 3rd, 2009 12:50 AM

Re: Yang: Newbie game EA CoD defaults - Upload Pretenders
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by llamabeast (Post 671636)
qjo, please do not go so crazy in future. You say this is not as bad as when you really get flaming - that's not really relevant, your tone was still out of place in a friendly newbie game. Or indeed on this forum in general. This forum is, on the whole, an exceptionally civil place, so you should aim to be more polite than is the norm in some parts of the internet.

Hopefully things will run smoothly from now.

It's qio not qjo. I'll assume you meant me anyways.

If a person is expressing an opinion then fine. If someone takes the time to respond to a post and starts arguing an issue, claiming I said x, y and z, or so forth. Then they really should actually read the post and stick to facts. Typos and language considerations aside, which didn't seem to be the case, he clearly didn't do me that courtesy. Yes. I could just ignore his reply, but I'm mean, selfish and hateful.

I could equally argue he started this with a suave snide, but that's irrelevant. I don't think my original reply to him was flaming, just a snap. The second, he ordered. It would have been prudent on my part to respond to him via PM. Then again, neither did he - nor you.

llamabeast February 3rd, 2009 03:12 AM

Re: Yang: Newbie game EA CoD defaults - Upload Pretenders
 
Ah whoops, qio, sorry.

I am strongly of the opinion that any supposed provocation is no excuse whatever for rude behaviour. Issues can always be resolved with civility, and indeed that's what people normally do.

I responded to you publicly because I thought it was important that the newish players who'd be on this thread understood that flaming wasn't a normal part of this community.

Although experience has taught me that people who flame or are rude can rarely even understand why I'd want to enforce civility when "people are being WRONG on the internet", it's nevertheless important to stick to the rules even if you disagree with them. The point is to make sure everyone feels this is a friendly place (which it is).

llamabeast February 3rd, 2009 03:12 AM

Re: Yang: Newbie game EA CoD defaults - Upload Pretenders
 
Sorry to clog up your thread pyg. :)

Trumanator February 3rd, 2009 03:41 AM

Re: Yang: Newbie game EA CoD defaults - Upload Pretenders
 
I'm not gonna lie, that was some pretty major drama for a non-political thread! :)

pyg February 3rd, 2009 09:42 AM

Re: Yang: Newbie game EA CoD defaults - Upload Pretenders
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by llamabeast (Post 671708)
Sorry to clog up your thread pyg. :)

No problem.

Game on!

licker February 3rd, 2009 03:39 PM

Re: Yang: Newbie game EA CoD defaults - Running
 
I just got notified that I need to be on travel from feb 10th to the 13th and will be unable to put in turns during that time.

I've contacted someone about subbing for me so hopefully there will be no delays to the game. I'll keep you updated with the situation though.

thanks

pyg February 3rd, 2009 10:16 PM

Re: Yang: Newbie game EA CoD defaults - Running
 
Thanks for trying to get a sub. If that doesn't work we can all take a little break... and plot how to DESTROY you ;-)

Tolkien February 3rd, 2009 11:26 PM

Re: Yang: Newbie game EA CoD defaults - Upload Pretenders
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pyg (Post 671641)
Tolkien brought up the question of diplomacy and nobody, including myself, responded. Anyway, with such a high stakes game (no second place) I think it's odd to expect good diplomatic behavior. In fact it would be good role playing on the part of many [all] nations to make and break agreements as it serves them. On the other hand it is difficult to separate our real selves from our game self when our game self was just brutally betrayed by an ally. That disappointment can really hurt. Anyway, those are my thoughts. I'm in favor of anything goes and no matter what anyone tells me I'm only ever trusting GrudgeBringer ;-)

With cutthroat politicking it is!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trumanator (Post 671421)
All will fall before Jormungand, the World Serpent! They will be subjects of the Oreiads and Eunuchs of the Priestesses.

Erika the Red disputes your claim, but will offer a mighty tribute of 0.49 Death Gems, .2 Earth Gems, and 0.0001 Air Gems for the chortling your risible claim has bought forth in our beautiful and pristine lands.

All gems will be rounded to their lowest number.

Trumanator February 4th, 2009 01:36 AM

Re: Yang: Newbie game EA CoD defaults - Running
 
Laugh now, as do all fools who think themselves invincible.

Tolkien February 4th, 2009 04:10 PM

Re: Yang: Newbie game EA CoD defaults - Running
 
I do not delude myself to the difficulty of the coming war for the hearts and minds of the world. However, I do not make grandiose claims based on a mere two months.

Trumanator February 4th, 2009 05:26 PM

Re: Yang: Newbie game EA CoD defaults - Running
 
Screw their hearts and minds, I'm more interested in their loyalty and/or fear and respect.

licker February 4th, 2009 05:49 PM

Re: Yang: Newbie game EA CoD defaults - Running
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Trumanator (Post 672226)
Screw their hearts and minds, I'm more interested in their loyalty and/or fear and respect.

Ok, well you're not a real illithid I suppose.

Personally I like their hearts with some red wine, and their minds with the white.

Tolkien February 4th, 2009 07:26 PM

Re: Yang: Newbie game EA CoD defaults - Running
 
I would rather have some brain souffle and flamebroiled heart steaks: all with a touch of brandy.

Redeyes February 4th, 2009 07:29 PM

Re: Yang: Newbie game EA CoD defaults - Running
 
You are starting to sound like an androphag
On the other hand just swear allegiance to Mictlan and you'll have an endless supply of virgin meat from our coming-soon blood factories

Tolkien February 5th, 2009 04:26 PM

Re: Yang: Newbie game EA CoD defaults - Running
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Redeyes (Post 672262)
You are starting to sound like an androphag

Is that a good thing or a bad thing? :p

licker February 5th, 2009 04:29 PM

Re: Yang: Newbie game EA CoD defaults - Running
 
Depends on which ear you put your earrings into I suppose...

P3D February 8th, 2009 07:59 PM

Re: Yang: Newbie game EA CoD defaults - Running
 
Androphagi Eat Everyone

pyg February 10th, 2009 12:22 AM

Re: Yang: Newbie game EA CoD defaults - Running
 
Going to slow down a bit here. Turns are 48 hours no quickhost until licker gets back from the beach:)

After (13th or so) I'll switch back to 24 hour quickhost unless complaining happens.

rdonj February 10th, 2009 05:02 PM

Re: Yang: Newbie game EA CoD defaults - Running
 
Hey, I'm taking over control of Tir na N'og temporarily while licker is away. If you need anything in the meantime feel free to pm me. I generally have a good response time.

pyg February 13th, 2009 09:51 AM

Re: Yang: Newbie game EA CoD defaults - Running
 
Well Juffos is taking lickers spot on the beach so we will keep hosting at 48 hours till he gets back.

pyg February 16th, 2009 02:14 PM

Re: Yang: Newbie game EA CoD defaults - Running
 
OK, I switched the turns to 24 hour and turned quickhost back on. s'ok?

Trumanator February 23rd, 2009 08:04 PM

Re: Yang: Newbie game EA CoD defaults - Running
 
Arcosphelae is officially looking for astral boosters. We are willing to pay in gems, and would like 2 caps and 2 coins.

Tolkien February 24th, 2009 12:09 AM

Re: Yang: Newbie game EA CoD defaults - Running
 
Erika the Red, Goddess of Helheim, hereby declares a holy crusade against the foul woodland beasts of Pangaea. The necrophilic halfmen believe that their flimsy vine constructs and hordes of scantily unclad females pose a threat to our glamourous Helhirdings of glamour, and unjustly declared war on our peaceloving nation. Therefore I request that all nations respectfully stay out of our war; unless they wish to scavenge off the soon-to-be-Carrioned Woods of Pangaea.


On an unrelated note, the great nation of Helheim also is auctioning off two, you heard me, TWO dwarven hammers! These rare and precious artifacts are selling like Seraphs on "discounted wish" day, and as a result, there is a strict limit of one per caller. All forms of currency is acceptable, whether in magic items, magic gems, blood slaves, and gold. The Svartalfs are unwilling to make anymore for export, and as a result, these fine and valuable beauties are going to the highest bidder. Send your messangers now and make your offers. Value is determined as such:
magic items>magic gems (of which death and earth are valued the least)>blood slave>gold (approximately 50 gold is worth one gem). Hurry, supplies are limited. CALL NOW!

P3D February 26th, 2009 03:49 AM

Re: Yang: Newbie game EA CoD defaults - Running
 
Caelum and Maverni players apparently dropped.

Trumanator February 26th, 2009 03:19 PM

Re: Yang: Newbie game EA CoD defaults - Running
 
Such a shame. You'd think they could at least say something so we could try to find a sub?

licker February 26th, 2009 03:25 PM

Re: Yang: Newbie game EA CoD defaults - Running
 
Well Marvernis position is pretty much down the crapper, but on the other hand it shouldn't take that long to prolong the agony of his attacker ;)

pyg February 26th, 2009 04:09 PM

Re: Yang: Newbie game EA CoD defaults - Running
 
Speaking of which I'm several turns from being eliminated by qio. I had long term plans that got ran over by mounted hirdmen. *sniff*

Tolkien February 27th, 2009 07:15 PM

Re: Yang: Newbie game EA CoD defaults - Running
 
The war between Pangaea and Helheim is getting interesting. He slaughtered 30 of my Helhirds last turn (I shouldn't have split my army up, it seems :( ), I've lost a raiding party to a lucky berserk minotaur strike (my Helkarl!), and he's making me chase one of his sub-armies around with my huskarls and hirdmen. On the other hand, I've set up anti-undead weapon production and reached some critical research goals.

This is going to take awhile.

Tolkien February 28th, 2009 11:20 PM

Re: Yang: Newbie game EA CoD defaults - Running
 
On another note, I'm going to be unavailable from Thursday to Sunday (JHUMUNC). I can submit a turn on Thursday (morning), and send one in later on Sunday (evening), so if the turns were delayed to 48 hrs no quickhost for those few days, I won't need a sub.

licker February 28th, 2009 11:59 PM

Re: Yang: Newbie game EA CoD defaults - Running
 
I'm all for a pause to allow Tolkein to deal with his situation.

pyg March 1st, 2009 09:41 AM

Re: Yang: Newbie game EA CoD defaults - Running
 
Sure. Are people ready for longer turns now in addition? I could switch to 48 hour turns now and just leave it. I will soon be eliminated although I think I can continue admin of the game.

licker March 1st, 2009 10:18 PM

Re: Yang: Newbie game EA CoD defaults - Running
 
I wouldn't mind a switch to 48h honestly.

P3D March 1st, 2009 10:21 PM

Re: Yang: Newbie game EA CoD defaults - Running
 
I second (or third) that 48 hour switch. Hopefully people will submit sooner, but still...
And thanks for continuing to administer.

pyg March 3rd, 2009 12:31 AM

Re: Yang: Newbie game EA CoD defaults - Running
 
Hosting changed to 48hr turns. I am out... *sniff*

licker March 3rd, 2009 12:57 AM

Re: Yang: Newbie game EA CoD defaults - Running
 
Thanks for the switch, though the way sauro is massing his armies in my lands I could soon follow.

Though after I bloodied his nose in the first real confrontation maybe he's having second thoughts?

;)

It's not too late, if you are at all interested in a CF i will listen to your terms.

Tolkien March 3rd, 2009 09:20 AM

Re: Yang: Newbie game EA CoD defaults - Running
 
It might just be me, but it looks like Mictlan is staling his turns.

Drats, and I don't want him to go AI...I dun wanna fight him and Pangaea at the same time. :(

pyg March 3rd, 2009 10:02 AM

Re: Yang: Newbie game EA CoD defaults - Running
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tolkien (Post 677914)
It might just be me, but it looks like Mictlan is staling his turns.

Drats, and I don't want him to go AI...I dun wanna fight him and Pangaea at the same time. :(

Redeyes staled last two turns and hasn't submitted one yet. I PM him, but if he stales again I will sub for him if there are no objections. Hmmm, I might get to work out my grudges from this game in this game!

qio March 3rd, 2009 11:51 AM

Re: Yang: Newbie game EA CoD defaults - Running
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pyg (Post 677923)
Hmmm, I might get to work out my grudges from this game in this game!

Anyone in particular?

Tolkien March 3rd, 2009 03:34 PM

Re: Yang: Newbie game EA CoD defaults - Running
 
Looks like Mictlan has sent in his turn file.

We're waiting on your Fomoria, though I'm not sure what you are suppose to send since you're gone.

P3D March 4th, 2009 05:08 AM

Re: Yang: Newbie game EA CoD defaults - Running
 
The problem might be with Redeyes playing another game as Tir...

Did not understand why the income of my adversary dropped so much, that explains. And, no second thoughts about the attack. Sorry.

Redeyes March 4th, 2009 06:07 AM

Re: Yang: Newbie game EA CoD defaults - Running
 
Is something up?
My connection to the internet has been spotty the last couple of days an old (uninstallled) firewall blocking my mobile connection.
Solved now, though I haven't seen the last turn yet.

I'm not playing Tir na n'Og in any game, nor have I earlier.

licker March 4th, 2009 11:07 AM

Re: Yang: Newbie game EA CoD defaults - Running
 
Yeah, I don't know what the hell happened, but I'm not asking for a roll back or anything.

It was just very odd behavior that I must have missed for a turn or two somehow. Either that or I had some issue with the .trn and or .2h after taking back over from my sub.

It's possible I forgot to clear out the old files and that caused some kind of glitch.

I have managed to kill Marvernis god again though!


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