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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by tesco samoa:
... Nailing in baseBoards so I am bitter at the world. ( not one straight wall in the house) <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> LOL! Oh man, I've been there, done that! I almost crippled myself just doing one small kitchen. Was too cheap to rent a nail gun. The quarter-round was the worst -- OAK! I don't think I've ever sworn like that before or since -- the wife had to get the children out of the house. |
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About the episode:
Considering their track record, I can't believe they didn't have someone get naked. Isn't that a common reaction to mind-bending drugs? Either they are trying to clean up their act, or someone should get fired. http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/ima...ons/icon12.gif |
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by dmm:
About the episode: Considering their track record, I can't believe they didn't have someone get naked. Isn't that a common reaction to mind-bending drugs? Either they are trying to clean up their act, or someone should get fired. http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/ima...ons/icon12.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> They've already done their softcore episode for the season. Remember the rub-down scene in the pilot? ------------------ L++ GdY $ Fr>Fr++ C++ SdS T-- Sf Tcp? A%% M- Mp! RTH!P Pw Fq-->Fq+ Nd>Nd+++++ Rp++ G+ |
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DirectorTsaarx:
They've already done their softcore episode for the season. Remember the rub-down scene in the pilot? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Well, I'm hoping you're right, and that they'll stick to good sci-fi, but I'm cynical. |
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next weeks show looks good.
Just gander over to treknation or trektoday to read up on it. They should have got orbital to do the soundtrack and theme. Or the Orb. Have they mentioned how long the Enterprise can Last without resupplying? ------------------ Inter arma silent leges |
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DirectorTsaarx:
They've already done their softcore episode for the season. Remember the rub-down scene in the pilot? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> every startrek had at least one.. remember Yar and Data? Kirk and everyone? |
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by tesco samoa:
Have they mentioned how long the Enterprise can Last without resupplying? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> They have not mentioned this yet. They will have to address this at sometime. |
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Puke:
every startrek had at least one.. remember Yar and Data? Kirk and everyone? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Yar and Data was nothing but a some suggestive talk and a kiss. Same for Kirk. Remember the way they would use that cheesy spot lighting and lilting music on there eyes whenever they had a scene like that? Cornball. Yeah right, like we was looking at there eyes! The Enterprise Decon scene was so risque, it looked like something right out of "Red-shoe Starlog". http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/ima...ons/icon10.gif Geoschmo [This message has been edited by geoschmo (edited 13 October 2001).] |
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sure they didnt get to showing much more than that, but in a later episode (or was it a movie?) data talked about his intimate incounter and why he was 'fully equipped.'
I remember at least one episode when the door closed on kirk and some broad in his quarters. there was a ds9 episode where spots got at least half naked, although it might have been in someones holodeck fantasy. and dont forget the alternate reality with bondage-80's-Kira. and in Voyager, aside from the occasional sappy romance, you saw one episode where the Captain and Tom were side by side naked on a beach with their litte children splashing in the water nearby. of course they happened to be transmogrified into lizards at the time, but thats QUIBBLING! ------------------ "...the green, sticky spawn of the stars" (with apologies to H.P.L.) |
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You forgot a couple in SNG.
The plots were roxana was nude and where she wore outfits that if you still framed the shot, you could see almost through them. Or the the plot were Diana wore the web outfit with the leaves barely covering her. |
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i was trying to foget those. thanks for ruining my lunch.
edit: IT WAS A JOKE! I didnt mean to kill the thread! [This message has been edited by Puke (edited 15 October 2001).] |
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http://www.treknation.com/reviews/fi...ew_world.shtml
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Hey An Enterprise I finally liked. Show #4
No transporters ( so their running at a 50% showing now ) Actually laughed a bit. And some of the 'future' tech looked old and dated. Which was nice. And their is one scene where you will rub your hands and say execellent in antisipation(actually why did i even bother trying to spell the word ) And their is a shower scene. And a really cool ship(s). How is that for not giving away anything. Damn day before trek. It is hard not to talk about it you know. I am trying. I should just stay away from this site every wed. If this post bothers anyone let me know and I will refrain from the sneak peak post. ------------------ Inter arma silent leges |
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Tesco, maybe you should tape it and watch it when the rest of us do.
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How about you all tape it and wait the 4 days I have to wait before watching each episode !
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But I am not giving away anything that you cannot find in the tv guide. I believe.
But in future I will refrain from putting up the post except for if I thought it sucked or not. I will do it news style. Just say it was good or bad and not back it up. ------------------ Inter arma silent leges |
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So..........
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>But I am not giving away anything that you cannot find in the tv guide.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>TV Guide couldn't write a spoiler-free story about a show if their lives depended on it. Anyone who cares about spoilers knows not to read it.
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I'll try to avoid spoilers. (thinks a minute)
'I can see my house from here!' AAHAHAHAAHA. That was funny. ------------------ 'Evacuate? In our moment of triumph?' Grand Moff Tarkin, just before the Death Star blew. We are Dyslexia of Borg, futility is resistant, your *** will be laminated. |
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Go read this article, scott talks about enterpise . http://entertainment.msn.com/celebs/qa/bakula.asp
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nice one. Good read. I hope Kirk does not pop up on the show. Perhaps Pike or that SheMale Second in command.
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riddle me this:
The enterprise comes across a race that has both cloak and holo deck tech. They don't try to trade for either. Yet they do trade the holo tech to the klingons without even asking the aliens if they would allow this. Now lets jump 150 years into the future. kirk's time. The Fed has neither cloak or holo decks. The klingons have cloaks but no longer use holo desks. What happen to the holo deck tech taht was installed on the klingon cruiser? did that captain not share this tech with the empire and it was lost? |
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No, the aliens only traded the holo tech, not the cloak. The Klingons got the cloak from the Romulans in Kirks time, in the alliance they briefly had. I think the Enterprise writers would have remembered that.
As for the holo, maybe the tech was too advanced for the Federation or Klingons to put onto their ships until 250 years later (TNG time). Most of the planets, ships and stations seen in TOS were outPosts or small colonies, scout vessels and warships. At that time, the Federation and Klingons could have thought the holo tech great, but just did't have the skill, tech level, money or desire to fit it onto all their warships, colonies and stations. Remember, the first holodeck seen was on the Enterprise-D, which was a BIG exploration vessel, with lots of families on board. On that kind of ship, the holodecks would be very usefull for stress relief and crew and passenger morale, but on a warship of TOS time, it would just take up space better used for provisions or weapons. ------------------ This is it. That moment they told us about in high school, where one day, algebra would save our lives. 'Evacuate? In our moment of triumph?' Grand Moff Tarkin, just before the Death Star blew. We are Dyslexia of Borg, futility is resistant, your *** will be laminated. |
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Lets go back to the the first show.
My thoughts on the unknown character. 1. Evil kirk from alt universe. 2. the real kirk who is pissed because they killed him off. 3. The romulan tasha yara, who wants to distroy the fed before it gets started. 4. data's evil brother. |
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mav,
I never said they traded the cloak tech. I ask what you thought happened to the holo tech that was given to the klingon captain? I was just fishing for thoughts on this. |
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Well, I still gave my thoughts about the holo tech. http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif
As for the unkown character, if I remember correctly, I think he's human. His hair, body features (that could be deserned), and clothing, lead to either human, or one of the species that have the basic siiloete of a human (Bajorians are one). Romulans and Vulcans could be ruled out, their hairstyle's different from the badguy's (again, if I remember correctly, and their hairstyles are pretty consistent from character to character); Klingon's ridges and body shape would be easily detectable; Carasians, Kazon, and other 'headgear' (the actors have to wear big ruber masks and body apperance mods) just didn't match the siloelete. To talk about your thoughts alittle (not insulting, just observeing and thinking): 1. He's from a alt universe, so time travel to our universe's past may be a little difficult, even for Treknobable. But that would be an interesting plot twist. 2. Naw. It's Kirk, I mean, why would HE come back to screw the Federation? 3. Sela (sp), was her name, but the badguys (again, if I remember correctly) had the profile of a man, and not one of a Romulan female. 4. Lor? Thought he was blown up or dismattled? Have to watch the TNG episodes that he was in. But that would be an interesting plot twist also. Do like in First Contact, go to the past, contact the Borg, or something like that. But I really don't know why he'd go back to screw the Fed. Ah, well, trying to figure out who or what Trek badies are is really confuseing, and it's usually better to just let the writers explain it. ------------------ This is it. That moment they told us about in high school, where one day, algebra would save our lives. 'Evacuate? In our moment of triumph?' Grand Moff Tarkin, just before the Death Star blew. We are Dyslexia of Borg, futility is resistant, your *** will be laminated. |
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better not be a borg.
I am so sick of the borg. You think a species that can conquer vast regions of space would get over the human factor ( ie really badly written story line ) If they have this enterprise beat them up I think I will scream. That would be as bad as Star Wars esp 6. ( Worst ending ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) ------------------ Inter arma silent leges |
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Manv,
Good post. |
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that's funny, I almost posted a borg also. But I thought that it did not sound like one.
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ok new show.
yep. Hey arn't they supposed to be a military based organization. Yep. That's why we send 80% of our command infastructure on all away missions. Stupid But hey at least it is predictable. Wouldn't want a show that is orginal in any way. Tonights. esp. two thumbs down. Horrible. Contrived , and zero orginal thought. Going through the motions. When I heard that line. "can we use the transporters " I thought the answer should have been. 'Sorry to early in the show. We have to have a 'problem happen' where the two leaders help each other solve the problem, and whola. Story ends' Man. was I surprised. http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif Please keep the insults non personal. Thanks ------------------ Inter arma silent leges |
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Hey, the Terrans/Federation didn't actually clue in to the fact that command staff should not be on the front lines until after TOS http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>When I heard that line: "can we use the transporters "<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Everybody should probably assume that the transporter won't work. IE: the question "The transporter won't work down there, will it?" "Of course not!" "The Last time we beamed somebody up from a planet, he had leaves stuck in him; this time he's sitting on rocks. I don't think so." IMO, it looks like they can barely get the beam through an atmosphere (wind -> turbulence -> bad). The space station in ep1 was sitting in a nice calm area, and its hull is not terribly deep, dense or irregular (with all the docked pods blown away). |
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Maverick:
... and it's usually better to just let the writers explain it. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> sure it is, unless you want it to make any sense. ------------------ "...the green, sticky spawn of the stars" (with apologies to H.P.L.) |
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This show gave a hint on one of the rules that the fed is later based on. When archer wanted to knock out the novians and the transport them back to the ship then try to convice them to return to earth. Ta'pol pointed out that the novian way of live would be lost and that was not right. They then decided to help them relocate to a safe spot on the planet.
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by tesco samoa:
Ah but we have to be passionate about one thing in life. I just happened to pick Star Trek. Oh and Beer, music and ............. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> I prefer a nice Stout or Porter on a brisk fall day. Of course, the Sam Addams radio commercials remind me of FDR style fire-side chats, and since Sams is something of a staple thats decent and easy to find everywhere (around here, anyhow) and as such is easily identifyable in the light of the FDR analogy. As for startrek, i prefer the Cisko - Woof - Martok trio when they were are all about kicking *** and taking names. throw in a sprinkling of Dax, and a dash of ferangi humor, and you have your self a very good season of trek. of course, you have to reflect back on Kirk and crew in a warm, nostolgic light and view the shows as entertainment, not as serious SF: "Brain, Brain! What is Brain?!" I sort of resent TNG, because even though everyone watched it and liked it at the time, it obviously was very silly and most people only liked it because a 25 year gap in televised science fiction forced them to like anything trekish that poped up on the idiot box. now, with the wider variety of programming, and the higher availability of recorded movies both via DVD and cable/satilite services, i feel less confined and less 'forced' to enjoy trek, and i feel very comfortable disliking both voyager and the new seriese. and a solid 50% of DS9. and in retrospect, a solid 60% of TNG. in comparison, i have strongly disliked about 10% of Space: Above and Beyond, 5% of Bab5, and out of the 20 or so episodes that i have seen, 0% of Farscape. thus, it is safe to say that paramount is loosing my interest with trek. I even like Andromeda better than the Lastest trek series, and thats bad. |
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Funny. I never ever argue about stuff.
But Star trek does it for me everytime. Here I am complaining about a night time soap. Makes me think of Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons ESP. Halloween Neutron Bomb 'Oh, I have wasted my life.' Ah but we have to be passionate about one thing in life. I just happened to pick Star Trek. Oh and Beer, music and ............. Later ------------------ Inter arma silent leges |
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The vulcans are turning out to be not so nice and I am starting to see them as being very sneaking.
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Did anyone else have the Last episode (visit to a Vulcan retreat center) figured out by half-way through?
I thought this episode had a lot of potential: overall a good idea, and some memorable scenes (e.g., humans stink, Archer's "important information") But the path from start to finish was very simplistic and predictable. And elements of it were not believeable. I mean, the Andorians had all kinds of sensors, but couldn't detect extensive catacombs or old-fashioned radio signals??? Gimme a break! And then at the end, Archer hands over top-secret info on Earth's Vulcan allies to another group that he knows nothing good about, without checking with headquarters or doing anything to try to salvage Vulcan's reputation. I was expecting him at the least to hand all the weapons to T'Pal so she could prove her loyalty to Archer and the basic honor of ordinary Vulcans to the Andorians. Then they could have had some closing dialogue like: T'Pal: How did you know I wouldn't kill you to protect my government? Archer: I didn't. I just trusted you. T'Pal: That is not logical. Archer: We have a 5-year mission ahead of us. If I can't trust you, I may as well find out now. T'Pal: There is some logic in that. But you still stink. And why is it that no one on Enterprise seems to have studied the Vulcans' database? The Andorians are the Vulcans' nearest neighbors, and have recently been at war with them, and the Feds don't even recognize them. Hello???? They're violent blue humanoids with blond hair and antennae! I recognized them from a single episode of STTOS, and I'm not even a dyed-in-the-wool Trekkie. Didn't anyone on that ship get a passing grade in Interstellar Diplomacy 101? Overall, I still enjoyed it, but felt that a little thought would have made it a LOT better. |
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ahh puke we must have been seperated at birth.
History documentaries endings have more surprise than the latest Trek. This weeks esp. I watched it not thinking trek.trek.trek. It was ok. Nothing worse than the first season of Bab5. But nothing better either. ------------------ Utinam logica falsa tuam philosophiam totam suffodiant! |
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But always remember the more u hate Trek. Star wars wins. And we do not want that.
Maybe Lucas is the real producer behind Enterprise. The big 3 'stars' are growing on me. Good interaction between Tucker, Archer and T'Pol. Nice seeing Geoffry Combs Last night. (sorry if I mangled his name ) ------------------ Utinam logica falsa tuam philosophiam totam suffodiant! |
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I liked this past episode, but I had my complaints. Most of all, this is all hanging on my Trek-fan bias towards Vulcans. Spock was my all-time favorite among the originals, and still pretty much at the top now.
I find it hard to believe that the Vulcans could have a centuries-long (by TOS timeline) reputation for honesty when there is this flat-out lie. On top of that, sure the guy was a monk (perhaps not), but how does Archer take him out with an elbow? Of course Kirk could do it, but no one can deliver the double axehandle punch like him...or the running drop kick. Great show..I'll still be watching!! I do like how the humans seem somewhat clumsy and goofy at times. |
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Wow, with this latest episode the humans are the first interplanetary tourists.
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Brandon Braga, and Rick Berman have both stated in interviews that the Vulcan attitude is directly related to events that will inlighten many of us. What exactly that means, I have no fricking idea.
Jeffery Combs, (The Lead Andorian, Wyoune, and Brunt the Ferengi) did a great job here, and I hope to see his andorian character again. |
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I liked the Last episode "The Andorian Incident" - I think it begins to show how the Federation was formed and how humans played the most important role (mediating between the Andorians/Vulcan etc...)
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2 thumbs up for the latest one. The Secert Message one
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I'm sorry, but comets don't have significant gravity - not even large ones. The problem would be keeping the shuttle from floating off the surface, not having it crash through the crust. The whole plot was so contrived, it was ridiculous. That was probably the worst episode in a Trek series I have ever seen. They need to hire some writers.
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Finally got to see the Andorian Incident on tape. That one was pretty good. I'm with Krakenup on the comet episode. That went beyond my "Trek Suspension of Disbelief" capabilities.
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ahh you have to ignore that it is a scifi show and remember that it is a soap in space.
I am basing my 2 thumbs up only on the dinner scene. That was a classic Trek skit. Well written and well acted. Science and trek are... well thats why we call it the Science of Trek ------------------ Utinam logica falsa tuam philosophiam totam suffodiant! |
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by tesco samoa:
I am basing my 2 thumbs up only on the dinner scene. That was a classic Trek skit. Well written and well acted.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Really?? I thought it was tedious and boring and added little or nothing to racial or personal character development. I guess that proves that beauty is in the eye of the Beholder. Hmmm, that reminds me - I haven't killed a Beholder in weeks. Where is my copy of Angband? http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif |
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If your going after beholders I recommend Eye of the Beholder 2 from ssi. They had about 100 of them. http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif
It was that thumb taping that made me laugh. O.T. Anyone catch family guy or the tick Last night?? ------------------ Utinam logica falsa tuam philosophiam totam suffodiant! |
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-Anyone catch family guy or the tick Last night??
I did. Those shows are incredibly funny! The Tick protects the people from the evil coffee machine? Pure genius! And about Enterprise... How many shuttles are going to crash through the ground? One fell into a cavern structure, one sank into a comet (which should not have happened, cause comets don't have much gravity...). What's next, a shuttle sinking into a bog? [This message has been edited by Imperator Fyron (edited 10 November 2001).] |
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