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I'm here I'm here! The thing is I'm new to Mictlan and they seem like a pretty hard nation to manage well so I was running through the beginnings of a test game against the AI before submitting my turn.

Anyways, I didn't notice the start time is 01:20 GMT. Sorry about that I thought I had more time. I should be able to get it in under the wire but if I don't could I get an extension of a few hours?

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I'm going to delay the hosting by 12 hours to give charshep a chance to get his turn in. He probably won't need all that time, but if any problems occur, then 12 hours will mean the game won't be hosting while I'm asleep, hence giving me chance to address anything that crops up.

Hopefully a good early pace will set-in once the game gets going :)

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Excellent, it looks like everyone has checked in and is now on board for this game.

I have changed the hosting interval to 30 hours as indicated on the status page.

Best of luck everyone, and game on!

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To celebrate the start of this great game Abysia would like to invite all nations to a traditional sauna competition, finland style. Send your champions today!

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Haha I wish I were as confident that I wont stale as you are..

I'm a bit of a repeat offender when it comes to stales. I think in preponderance I actually have had about 6 stales which at its current turn means I staled for about 10% of the game. Not that it really hurt me as I just went and used the gold to buy forts and playing as Ermor my priests reanimated without my input but...

I dont plan on staling as long as I get my turns. Which for some reason occasionally I do not get the turns and is usually the cause for me staling in the first place or has been in the past. I have developed the habit now of checking the game page to see if I need to request a turn resend though.

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We all have faith in you PsiSoldier :)

I learnt very early on to always have the llamaserver page close to hand, since the info on that regarding the current turn status is always more reliable than anything that arrives by email or written on the forum. The llamaserver is the one true creator after all :D


And can I just take this opportunity to thank everyone for the zero stales so far in this game. It's always good for game balance if nobody stales the early turns, and gives the admin an easy job :) (I accept in advance all the flaming if I have now jinxed the hell out of this game).

Re: CarCrash - EA Game - CBM - (Running)
 

Fomoria AI?

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Nice spot Executor. Just PM-ed Alpine Joe to ask for some more info on this. Will keep you all posted.

In the meantime, if I / we don't hear anything, does anyone fancy putting their hands up to claiming first kill bragging rights?

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Sorry for not informing you all sooner, but Fomoria is indeed AI. I made the early mistake of trying to slow down the dreaded sauromatia and ended up with an army of heavy cavalry eating up my provinces. I was down to my capital, loaded with useless fomorian druids sporting......wait for it.... alteration 3 magic. I decided the best choice was to go AI and hope my other neighbor (hinnom...that's fun) decides to grab my capital to balance things out. Anyway, credit for first kill should go to Sauromatia, although really i just blew it with pretender design and research choices.

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Thank you for letting us all know what happened Alpine Joe. Surprised to hear Fomoria got in trouble early, but then I guess the Pretender build is critical to most nations and sometimes it doesn't take much to turn a good design into a bad one.

Hope you enjoyed the game though and learnt something from it, even if it was a brief affair. Look forward to playing in future games with you.

All the Best, and thanks for playing :)

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Formia attacked my capital with what looked like his starting forces? It didn't even dent the PD there D: So I attacked back. his provinces are DELICIOUS.

Jazzepi

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Yes there are many tasty delicacies being served up at the moment. Yomi for example is currently eating its way through the Hall of Fame :)

and congrats on being awarded the first kill Jazzepi (see status page).

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I've had to delay the hosting by 4 hours. The llamaserver seems to be in a bit of a mood with me at the moment, since it appears to not want to acknowledge my emails. Have had trouble uploading turns for this game and two others this morning (ComfortZone + CrippleFight). One of those games managed to sort itself out eventually, so hoping this one will do likewise given time.

The current turn is only waiting on me, so the delay will only be for as long as the llamaserver chooses to ignore me :(

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Word of warning to all those who would wise Caleum harm:

Our great and wonderful and happy and winged and buoyant very very aerodynamic sages have discovered the means with which to call down lightning! Yes yes wonderfu--, wait it's not lightning?

Thunderstrike? What the heck is thunderstrike?

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The League of Explorers of Caleum offers their apology to the peoples of Hinnom, the "pirates" that are under our employ were merely attempting to chart the unknown and had zero intentions of taking that not at all defended province.

The military of Caleum on the other hand, would like to know why there are two of armies of Hinnom sitting on our broaders.

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Let it be known that Adil the Prophet of Niefelheim, and Hall of Fame leader, is one tough uber quickened Son of a *****.

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Exactly how do you 'accidentally' attack a province with another nation's (to which you have a NAP) flag on it??

And how do you construe armies directly next to my capital as signs of aggression???

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Ah yes, the "we're just chilling next to our capital" excuse. We're watching you! Dun dun dunnnn~~~

P.S. Invitations to dinner are not N.A.P.s, they're more of a friendly gesture of goodwill.

P.P.S. We couldn't see that you owned that island, so take it back if you like.

Re: CarCrash - EA Game - CBM - (Running)
 

Sorry guys I *might* need an extension by a few hours. I should be able to get my turn done in time though.

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That's fine charshep. I will be keeping a close eye on the hosting this turn anyway, since Fantomen / Abysia had the first stale of the game last turn, so will be delaying hosting if there's a danger of a repeat.

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Caleum is trading for earth boots. PM me!

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Caluem would like to congratulate Tir na n'Og for their stunning victory against Abysia at the battle of Bhamot. That was some good use of magic there!

Fake Edit: Seriously though, what's with the giant swath of indie lands between Tir na n'Og and Mictlan?

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Interesting pretender choice for Fomoria, not sure where he was going with it doe.

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Lose :O

Jazzepi

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doe?

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My SMS brain tells me that 'doe' is short for 'though'.

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dear god... that's awful

what was the fomorian pretender?

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If I recall correctly a crone with F4W2E2A2D4S4N2 or something like that. I really don't see any point in playing Fomoria without a bless.

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That's a really odd Pretender for Fomoria. In fact I can't think of any nation of any age where that Pretender would get a look in.

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Well, all in all I think Pangaea is a pathetic little nation and having streams of maenead is not the best way to play them, at least until you get some vital alteration.

A warning to all the nation of the world, do not thrust Mictlan for they are oath breakers and they will stab you in the back when you least suspect it!

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True, I broke an oath. However, it was unintentional. I'm new to MP Dominions and I misunderstood a NAP-3 to be a NAP of 3 turn duration, not a NAP of indeterminate duration with a 3 turn warning before breaking. Sorry I didn't seek to clarify ahead of time. I'll PM you with a proposal to rectify the situation.

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Well that battle at Hinnom this turn was kind of amusing to watch.. Something for that thread on Horrors.. It just doesn't work out well when you earth meld the horrors after you call them so your own troops are spending all of their time fighting the horrors that are now stuck next to your own army..

And they probably could have won that battle had they forgotten about that whole ill planned horror attack.

If I had been having any thoughts on the virtues of using horrors in battle then those thoughts are kind of gone. (Well except for maybe with two or so lone commanders one horror marking the enemy and one calling horrors maybe)

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hehe, ouch.. to be fair though, 2 turns back horrors saved me. Always a gamble

Anyways, hinnom about to go out, I'll play another turn or two probably

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That could've been a disaster for me if the horrors had beelined for my guys instead of.. not doing anything.

That SC you got is nasty business though.

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well, specifically against what you had sent at me yes - partly lucky, hadn't expected mammoths but his size made that sweet

Surprisingly vanheim has stopped attacking me - otherwise preoccupied else I can't imagine why he wouildn't want his share?

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Too bad I didn't see the one a few turns ago.

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I'm going to delay hosting for a few hours at my own request.

Was hoping to get my turn done tonight, but only just got home, and it's just been too long a day (and night) to attempt anything else today other than falling alseep.

So apols to everyone in advance for the slight hold-up.

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Well C'tis is officially done. I have set myself to AI. Well played by Calahan.

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Good game Trumanator. Making sure my demons avoided your H3 priests certainly kept me busy.

@ Everyone. A busy weekend meant I couldn't monitor happenings in this game, and only just noticed that Vanheim / 'Incabulos' staled their last turn (which explains why they didn't attack you Drager :)) and there looks a danger that another one is due to follow this turn.

Now I personally hate to see staling nations in games, so if it happens or is about to happen (and I catch it) in a game I'm admining, then I always try to do something about it in advance. To that end, I will PM Incabulos to see if everything is ok, and will delay the game if I don't hear back and the Vanheim turn is still missing come the hosting deadline.

I know it's not the usual procedure to delay games (without a request) to avoid players staling, but it's something I choose to actively do as admin in order to keep the game as balanced as possible. Think we've set a good pace so far, so a short delay won't look too bad when viewing the overall picture.

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I feel compelled to make a couple of observations.

1. Incabulos did not ask for an extension for the turn he staled 30 hours ago.

2. He was last online at this forum 12 hours ago. He made no apology nor comment about his stale and did not ask for an extension for the next turn.

3. In another game I've been in (Beyond) he left the game without going AI, leaving his nation to stale until it was eliminated.

4. This game has already been delayed.

In my view, this is the behaviour of someone who has lost interest and is abandoning the game. I would recommend advertising for a sub immediately, letting Vanheim stale again if no-one accepts quickly, and then (if no-one accepts for a further 18 hours) putting Vanheim to AI.

Just my 2c
Zap.

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Thanks for your input Zapmeister.

1. Yes, Incabulos did not ask for a delay, but I try to be an active admin in helping to avoid nations from staling (this is purely my choice). Since I feel staling nations only leads to more unbalanced games overall, and I don't see any reason why I shouldn't help to avoid the latter turn of affairs if at all possible.

2. Last post I can see by Incabulos is 29th April. And the 'last activity' stamp is saying 7th May, so I'm not sure how you know that Incabulos was last on these forums 12 hours ago.

3. Didn't know Incabulos had any history of dropping out of games. But I always give people at least the first benefit of the doubt, so if that gets used up here, then I'll be a bit wiser for the next time.

4. The game only got delayed by 4 hours (which is not exactly a huge delay IMO) to give me chance to get some sleep. I have now delayed the game a further 12 hours to give Incabulos time to re-appear, and / or get back to my PM. I don't intend having huge delays with this game, so my current intentions are that the game will be hosting in about 13 hours regardless of any outstanding turns (unless there is an actual delay request). If Vanheim / Incabulos stales again then I will begin looking for a sub.

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My mistake - I misread the date in the last activity stamp, so I'm happy with your ruling on this.

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:) Must confess that I made the exact same mistake when I looked at it. I thought "Incabulos was on the forums last night. Why didn't he/she check in on the game then? That's not right is it. No hang on a minute, what bloody date is it again? Ooooh my head hurts".

A rough weekend :sick:

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Hinnom's SC has CRUSHED my will to fight him. His gigantic manhood forces me to gap in awe every single time I watch him fight.

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Looking forward to see the battle when I get home :)

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My damn lack of scout recruiting provinces is making me miss all the good battles :(

Admin wise, Vanheim / Incabulos did stale again last turn, so I am going to try and find an experienced player to check out their position to see what state they are in. Since I don't want to mislead any possible sub into thinking the position is good when it isn't, and don't want to turn a nation AI if it is a major force in the game.

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The battle is pretty much what you'd expect from Caluem's laugh out loud province defense.

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ah, was nothing interesting at all :( I'd hoped to have run into a proper army

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O come on!
3 against 1 is a bit too much this early on, have you no honor people.
It's not like Pangaea is the ultimate dominions nation, and mictlan/hinnom/sauromatia are pathetic.

Be assured that the peace loving people of Pangaea will fight to the very last man.

Mictlan, back down or this will be the first and last conquest you ever make as you can see from the battle results this turn.

Anyone bordering Sauromatia, keep in mind that most of his lands are undifended since a extremely large Sauro army is in my lands. If you're looking for an opportunity, now is your chance.
Remember, Sauromatia is the leading nation in the HoF and Jazepi is no stranger to it also, and he has already taken out Fomoria.

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?? Hinnom copped a 3:1 a fair few turns earlier, although I am willing to believe it probably waasn't co-irdinated