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DrPraetorious May 25th, 2009 03:07 PM

Re: Preponderance 2 - RAND team game! [sign-ups]
 
I'm not in any hurry, but if it takes too long to fill up, people are going to join other games and not have enough time for this one.

On nation selection:
I suggest that EA Tir and EA Yomi be moved to the "strong" list. The strong list now has 24 nations on it. EA Tir and EA Yomi aren't the most devastating positions, but combined with many of the strong nations they'd be insane.

Rather than a re-roll, give each team 2 "strong" nations and 2 "weak" nations - you can pick one of each (or both weak, if you wish.)

Finally, there's no mention of victory conditions - I suggest 1 VP per capital, with victory accumulation, and the team with 50 accumulated victory points between them gets the victory. Llamabeast has scripts which do numerical conversion of the score graphs, which we should use.

Zeldor May 25th, 2009 03:36 PM

Re: Preponderance 2 - RAND team game! [sign-ups]
 
There are 26 VPs on the map [24 from caps]. I was thinking about 8-10 VPs required to win. With accumulated - why you'd want any script? We can add 2 numbers easily :)

And yeah, I have to PM some people that could join. There are few peopel that want to join, btu didn't get teammates yet, so I didn't put them on the list.

OoohSnap May 25th, 2009 04:20 PM

Re: Preponderance 2 - RAND team game! [sign-ups]
 
Been a while since I've been in a Team game,

I'd like to sign up sir

namad May 25th, 2009 04:53 PM

Re: Preponderance 2 - RAND team game! [sign-ups]
 
combined accumulation of 50... 1per capital...

that means on turn 25 if there have been no wars that ended ... the game ends in a 12way draw?


or did you mean that your own capital was worth 0? if that was the case then .....losing your own capital would have no penalty in terms of VP? (which it probably should)

of course if zeldor doesn't want to go with vp accumulation this doesn't matter... but if he does... the limit needs to be raised

(as a game that cannot possibly ever last longer than 25turns is probably too short)

Zeldor May 25th, 2009 05:01 PM

Re: Preponderance 2 - RAND team game! [sign-ups]
 
VPs in cumulated VP condition are added every year at mid-summer month. So ~300 turns with 2 caps controlled [25x12]. So at least 80-100 if you conquer few more VPs.

namad May 25th, 2009 05:13 PM

Re: Preponderance 2 - RAND team game! [sign-ups]
 
ohhhhh maybe lower it then ;)

DrPraetorious May 25th, 2009 11:21 PM

Re: Preponderance 2 - RAND team game! [sign-ups]
 
@ adding two numbers together:
Do the score graphs display things graphically instead of numerically? The llamaserver thing definitely displays it numerically, and in easy-to-read format.

@ number of accumulated VP required:
Fine, it could be 30. Point is, there are 24 on the entire map, so holding half the map should make you win in about 2 years.

nozshand May 26th, 2009 07:14 AM

Re: Preponderance 2 - RAND team game! [sign-ups]
 
sign me up plz, do i need to bring a partner?

Zeldor May 26th, 2009 07:26 AM

Re: Preponderance 2 - RAND team game! [sign-ups]
 
Either bring one or get one from here.

DrP:

I think we will stay with normal VPs, 1x at caps, 2 at central island. How many should we choose though? 8-10 range, I think.

namad May 26th, 2009 05:20 PM

Re: Preponderance 2 - RAND team game! [sign-ups]
 
looks like i'll be teaming with lidjis AKA alpine something or other


will scoregraphs be on in this game?

Zeldor May 27th, 2009 11:46 AM

Re: Preponderance 2 - RAND team game! [sign-ups]
 
Ok, we need few more people and we can get teams assigned. I think I will go with prerolled teams, as some people are afraid of it. You will still have a chance to reroll one of the nations.

Zeldor May 27th, 2009 12:09 PM

Re: Preponderance 2 - RAND team game! [sign-ups]
 
Teams have been rolled. That nations that are not there won't be used. When we have all teams I will distribute nations. You then have 24h to request a reroll on one of the nations. You will get one from the teams that were not distributed. And you won't know about final teams and nations in the game until all picks are final. At least you know you can't get any of the nations that are not on the list.

P.S. I have madmay avoid rolling Fomoria and LA Marignon teams due to coastal flag their caps have.

OoohSnap May 28th, 2009 04:30 AM

Re: Preponderance 2 - RAND team game! [few more spots left, join now!!!]
 
P3D + OoohSnap are now teamed up

PsiSoldier May 28th, 2009 06:32 PM

Re: Preponderance 2 - RAND team game! [sign-ups]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeldor (Post 692692)
If you want to present attitude like that it's probably better if you don't join.

That game is different, name is mostly because of same map being used. If you don't like it, you don't have to stay. I thought that you'd want to show people that you can acchieve smth here and you'd want to play for the win. Anyway, Prepo is over and it should have been over, continuing it would be painful and counterproductive.

Well with you going for the VP Accumulation like you are I would change my opinion and say that this game will probably not be a disaster and may actually go fairly well.

Not that I want back in on the game because I dont since I still dont care for some of the other game options but at least I think this game has a much better chance of actually working now.

It is a cool map and I really do like it, you did a good job making it but Its just really not the best map for a team game still which I think hurts it. But like I said I was having fun with the first game until everyone else started crying that they were not. (But then I didnt have a team anymore either lol)

DrPraetorious May 30th, 2009 12:43 AM

Re: Preponderance 2 - RAND team game! [few more spots left, join now!!!]
 
PsiSoldier - thanks for the vote of support, but I'm not administering the game, so it looks like VP accumulation will *not* be used :).

PsiSoldier May 30th, 2009 03:31 AM

Re: Preponderance 2 - RAND team game! [few more spots left, join now!!!]
 
Oh... Well I have never been a fan of VP accumulation, I really dont like it, but in this case on this particular map I think it might be the best option.

Septimius Severus May 30th, 2009 03:09 PM

Re: Preponderance 2 - RAND team game! [few more spots left, join now!!!]
 
Yes, Zeldor has put together a fine game here. Let us give him thanks. And while we are thanking him, let us head on over and check out Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution.

We are recruiting now! If you only join one Dom3 game this year (aside from Zeldor's:)), make it Noobs vs. Vets III.

Not quite a Noob? Don't have enough experience yet to call yerself a Vet? Currently overcommited but with a little spare time? No problem. Join as an alternate on the side you most identify with.

Join now. Your satisfaction is guaranteed or your money back!

Join the Revolution.

(Shamelessly posted with permission of the admin)

Zeldor June 2nd, 2009 08:46 AM

Re: Preponderance 2 - RAND team game! [few more spots left, join now!!!]
 
Come on, we need some more people! If everyone that signed here without a teammate looked for one outside the topic we'd be full and ready to go.

sansanjuan June 6th, 2009 01:52 AM

Re: Preponderance 2 - RAND team game! [few more spots left, join now!!!]
 
Z,
Alas, fun as this looks I must withdraw my name. Looks like starting a big game will not be possible for me until later this summer/fall. Once you herd these cats and get the game going I will enjoy reading the AARs.

Lurkers...
The other team game I played this year was one of the best Dom3 experiences ever. If you haven't tried one yet give this one a ride.
-ssj

Frozen Lama June 8th, 2009 07:16 PM

Re: Preponderance 2 - RAND team game! [few more spots left, join now!!!]
 
Zeldor,

I'm actually really excited for this game to start, but obviously we have a problem. are you just going to try again in a month or so, or can we maybe just use a smaller map?

Zeldor June 9th, 2009 02:48 PM

Re: Preponderance 2 - RAND team game! [few more spots left, join now!!!]
 
There is really not a big choice of team maps [I think mine is the only one with teams in mind]. And that wouldn't be Preponderance then. I think we will try again in some time. We are still 8 players behind and probably those that signed forgot about it already. I will maybe start another different game now, with mods meant to be used here. And maybe when summer comes people will want to play team games again :)

militarist May 28th, 2010 03:05 PM

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