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Sorry, I just looked at Faerun 466....are we talking about the April 10th map or the May 1 Map?

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I was looking at the recent update myself. I tried looking for Darkheaven(?), but I couldn't find it. Do you have a link to it somewhere?

[Edit: Nevermind, I had skipped over you're post explaining it to me. LOL Also, yes, Glory of the Gods SP will need some editing to create start locations at least semi-random ones. I'm going to play around with Faerun some in SP and see if I like it while we wait for signups.]

No, this will not be a rush-bless nation's game where you can grab a capitol or two right off the bat because the non-sacred neighbors don't have a chance to get the mages to counter you together. 20 provinces per player equals 400-480 province map. It'll be a longer, more strategic game.

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Okay, first, I only know of a CBM 1.5. I'd like to see a 1.51, because there have already been found a couple typos, like 70 death gem Shade Beasts. Second, Worthy Heros and CBM are pretty much one mod now, AFAIK. When you activate CBM 1.5, you turn on the Worthy Heros that came with it. Unless you download the "split" version, which I think is for the case when you don't want Worthy Heros activated along with CBM.

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Well, I went looking for Darkheaven and noticed that Baalz already has a full early era Faerun game going. Guess I'm replicating it by accident. Also Faerun has VPs all over it, meaning it would need to be changed a bit for a capitol only VP game. And its a really busy map. Not sure I'd want to stare at it for months.

I think I'll work on creating a multiplayer version of Glory of Gods SP map instead. But if other players have some alternatives that fit the bill (capitol-only VP, 400-500 size), feel free to post and if we've a couple good choices, we can vote on it.

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May I sign up (if I'm not late)?

Caelum, Abysia, Pangaea.

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Not at all. Welcome aboard. 3 slots left, plus a couple alternates to go.

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How about Antilarium? That seems sorta interesting.

Faerun 466 i can stare at all day since i'm into fantasy maps :D

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I would like to play if there is still room. My choices (if not available I could play anything):

Arco
Agartha
C'Tis

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Finally a new newbie game!
If I'm still in time,I'd take:

Kailasa
Yomi
C'tis

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Okay, welcome aboard guys. We've room for 1 more player.

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I'd like to jump in although I can't really get started till next Tuesday.

I'd like maverni, Tir, Formoria

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Okay, we're full now. If anyone still wants in, I'd be glad to take a couple alternates in case we lose a player or two early on.

I will begin the nation selection process tomorrow night. If anyone ends up with no selections, I will PM them for new choices. This might happen to a couple people who lose a roll off. In the meantime, anyone who wants their picks changed, PM me. You have until the sign-up deadline (tomorrow night) to do so if you want to. But only once! I don't need to be confused any more than I naturally am. :p

Also, just as an update, I've been setting up Glory of Gods SP for the game and as it happens, the map already has most poor locations marked no-start, but I'm going to constrain it further so that everyone will be as evenly spaced on the map as possible, and in a province with 4 or 5 neighbors. But it will not be fixed starts. Where exactly each nation begins in relation to each other will be random.

Once I get the map ready, in a day or two, I'll get the game setup on Llamaserver and everyone can get started on their pretenders, once they know who they'll be conquering the world with.

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Is there an Antilarium map with 400+ provinces? It is a cool map, I admit.

Faerun is a great map for looking at (and brings back fond Baldur's Gate memories), but when I try to play Dom3 on it, I get cross-eyed trying to distinguish between the province borders and the roads.

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Last item of business --

If anyone would rather play standard victory over VP victory, let me know. If more than half vote no to VPs I'll set the game up as standard game. VP victory will be 1 VP per capitol. 10 capitols captured wins. That would be about 42% of the map.

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Only thing I hate about that is, we will see where everyones capital is from the start.
Anyway 10 capitals, and how long to hold them?

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Yeah, the locations of the capitols will be on the map from the start using VPs. I don't want to get into the mess of trying to determine who controls what VP for how many turns in a row. I'd rather let the program determine the winner, so that would be 1 turn holding 10 VPs wins.

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I will go either way but I rather have a standard game tho I LOVE the hard research.

i am in Reno and will have very littlee access to a computer until Monday afternoon so PLEASE keep that in mind when you get this started as I REALLY do want to play.:up:

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Hoo needs to wait until Tuesday himself, so the very earliest turn 1 would go out is Wednesday -- and that is assuming all the pretenders are in from you guys.

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Since it's a full game and I'm the only one who picked Vanheim, if you want to just assign Vanhiem to me that's cool.

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Okay. I've got the map ready to go and I've created the game (MistsofTime) on Llamaserver. I've also completed all but the final (fourth) round of nation selection and posted the list on the first post of the thread. There were just a couple who ended up without any of their three nation picks.

For those who'll be working on their pretenders and generally just would like the files for the game all in one place, I've attached a .zip file of the map and the mods we'll be using for the game.

The map files, mistsoftime.tga and mistsoftime.map, go into your .../dominions3/map/ folder.

Put the archives of CBM1.5 and Llamabanners (Streamers & Standards mod), go into your .../dominions3/mod/ folder. Then extract them there.

NOTE: You will need to have CBM 1.5 installed before you create your pretender if you don't already have it. CBM tweaks the pretenders and costs and such. Llamaserver's copy of Dominions may well throw an error if you send in a pretender designed with the vanilla game.

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I can't seem to get the map to work... Just me?

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I noticed that when I open the map in Dominions (when starting a new game), it is actually still called Glory of the Gods, instead of Mistsoftime. It's a second copy found down further in the list of maps. I neglected to change the name in the description found in the .map file ... Or was the problem something else?

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I've played quite a bit against the computer but haven't done PBEM before.

I did install the mods but don't know where to find the maps.

How do I send my pretender?

Is there a guide to playing PBEM on Llamaserver?

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The map files are in the mists.zip file I attached a couple posts ago. If you would like to start a practice game with the map, drop the two files mistsoftime.tga and mistsoftime.map into .../dominions3/map/ folder and then start a new game. When you reach the list of maps, it'll be called Glory of the Gods but it'll be a second copy that appears after the original version that came with your game.

The only difference you'll notice from the original Glory map is that there are only 24 places players will begin the game. Otherwise, its identical.

The link statttis posted is Llamabeast's instructions for players new to Llamserver. It's fairly simple, a matter of sending files to an email address.

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I didn't know the map is glory of gods. I just searched for a map named "mists of time" as filename. If there'll be no problem I'll let it stay that way.

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If you put the files I posted in your map folder, everything should be fine.

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It looks as though we need 2 alternates to play in order to be a full game. GrudgeBringer has bowed out and I have not heard back from Cipher about his picks. Therefore, if anyone wants to hop in and play one of the remaining nations between now and Wednesday when I will start the game, you're more than welcome.

The nations currently remaining are:

Rl'yeh
Oceania

We could really use at least 1 more player to give Atlantis some competition in the sea. Anyone who is interested, post here or PM me.

I've decided to take Kailasa.

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Atlantis needs no competition in the seas. They are ours by right, from the depths to the shores. Neither the fish-men nor the abominations will prove competition.

<OOC>On the other hand, if no one does pick up the other water nations, you could move the start location to one of the smaller bodies of water. Force me onto land sooner. I didn't look closely at them when I was playing with the map, so I don't know if they're big enough not to be crippling, but small enough to not let me get too strong without leaving the water.

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I was looking at the game's description on the llamaserver, and there it says that independent strength is set to 6...i thought we were using the normal settings?

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Huh. You're right. I have it set on default now.

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Would it be possible to consider a swap to normal research? Difficult just seems to benefit the bless nations too much and games take an age to get going.

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I totally agree on this.

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Difficult research is part of the package. It goes hand in hand with a large map and this many players. On normal research, everyone would be hitting level 9s before they were half way to the victory conditions ....

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Are there any other "house rules"? Or just the aforementioned mods and game settings?

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None that I can think of. I guess some admins will ban certain high level spells, but I'm not really into it. The couple that I used to think deserved got tweaked in the last patch or two or the game.

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Sounds good :)

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I have been out of town, I will get my pretender in by tonight or tomorrow.

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Ok I created a pretender, but how do I find it in the dominions folder? I read some instructions that it is in the savegame folder but I don't see that folder anywhere.

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Never mind - I figured it out. It was hidden in a folder I never would have thought of because I have Vista.

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It's funny, I use Vista but the files go where they "ought" to go. But yeah, I guess for others Vista puts them under the user folder or some such.

Okay, well, we've no takers yet as alternates, so I'll assume we'll be playing with 22 players. We're just waiting on 6 more pretenders and then we'll get this show on the road.

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I think it depends on where you tell Vista to install it. If you take the defaults, it does the weird thing.

I agree it's time to get the game going. I'm a little uncomfortable starting as the only water nation in that large an ocean. What do you think of changing the water start location to one of the smaller lakes in the lower right of the map? And maybe breaking the connection between them? That way I'll be forced to start fighting land nations early.

Of course, if everyone's okay with the current setup, I'm fine with it. 80+ water provinces with no real opposition? I'll just have no excuse when I get slaughtered.

I'll put my pretender in tonight. I was waiting to see if we'd get another water nation.

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Do you still need another player? I'd happily join the game!

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Yes, we need another water nation. Rl'yeh and Oceania are the choices. If you want to join us, your welcome. We're still getting our pretenders into Llamaserver.

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I'll take Ryleth and submit my pretender now;)

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Good man! [You're a man right ...? Sorry if not. Internets and such.]

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Welcome aboard, Ossa.

It seems the Deep Ones will have a rival in the seas after all. That will make our conquest more ... satisfying.

Firewalker: Is it worth editing the map for only 2 water starts, or should we just go with it? If one of us gets the middle location, they'll have a much larger backfield to expand into. I'm fine with it either way. If you can't change it without restarting the game on llamaserver, I guess it's not worth it.

Pretender's sent and ready to go!

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I was having similar thoughts and was attempting to ignore them. But, now they have been validated by someone else. I'll look into it. I am thinking it shouldn't be a big deal unless for some reason we'd have to send the pretenders in again.

BTW, there're four people who need to send in pretenders yet. I suppose I'll need to look up who they are and bug them by PM soon.

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I am one of those 4, but unfortunately I won't be able to submit my pretender until tomorrow afternoon. Its gonna be a good one though.....

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Does anyone know offhand whether it is actually necessary for the players to have a copy of the .map file on their local computers?