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What unfriendly is about my graphs? :)

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I'm Pythium. Sorry, but I have no internet for а long time. Please set me to AI or find me sub.
I'm very sorry, but it's my real life.

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What happened to the hosting of this game?
It's been days and days...

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I was asked for postponement.

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By the way...

How come Pangaea has multiple prophets? I thought its only possible for LA RLyeh.
On turn 18, I beheld one scout Pangaean prophet, and one Centaur commander prophet. Neither was insane.

Is that a feature I didnt hear about yet?

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Bump. I am still very curious about the means to have two prophets at the same time without being Rlyeh.

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I guess llamabeast is quite busy, there was also other thing reported and no word from him, and it was almost 15 turns ago.

BTW, Ermor is buying D gems. We can offer other gem types in exchange, lots of N, if you want to put some global up etc :)

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Not that it's my business, but dealing with a rapidly expanding Ermor is like dealing with the devil.
Man suggests that he's a much more reliable source of nature gems if you need them so badly; special discount if you're at war with Ermor. ^^

As for dual prophet... maybe the player in question has something to say? ))

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Dual-Prophet player here:

yeah its a mystery to me. All of the sudden the make prophet command just reappeared, and I assumed my prophet had been killed and made another one. Now I have two. I don't know if they are both spreading dominion. Normally having two prophets would be super fun but my nation is getting torn apart by Man and Caelum at the moment so its hard to capitalize.

Also my God died, that might be related in some way.

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Argatha is willing to trade Death Earth or Water gems in exchange for supply boosters contact us by PM for more details

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Something is amiss.
My turn file is getting rejected.
It says we are on to turn 23 and i am submitting 22.
I have not received a turn 23 to process.
I did get two messages last night, both saying that hosting would occur in 9 hours, one at midnight and one at 4am (pacific time).

Have I missed a turn?

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Looks like it was a bug.
Everything is OK, no turn lost.
Thanks to Zeldor for helping me figure out the problem.

I would like to request an extension until Monday midnight pacific time for the next turn.

Bye for now
Anthropos

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I'll be gone until next thursday/friday, so I'd like an extension or at least perhaps we should move to 48h hosting by now.

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Yeah, 48h may be a good idea.

P.S. Storming as Ermor is 'problematic'.

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I submit 34, and am now goign away for the weekend.
Please do not host 35 until Monday 6pm PSt.

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I am asking for someone to accept the admin duty, because I am soon going to be defeated and thus removed from the game.

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I am suddenly have to go away from 10 till 25 and have to find a sub (possibly permanent).

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I'm interested in joining if someone needs a sub.

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Maybe you can replace me as R'lyeh then? Can't PM, seems to be turned off.

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hmmm i tried to send a PM to ryffg but after i clicked submit it didn't appear in my sent messages so i'm not sure if it went through. I turned on my PM setting (strange it is off by default)

anyway, I'm obviously a noob here but I would be happy to take over for R'lyeh. Take out the "z's" from the below to get my email address

ezashzton@zzgmailz.com

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I agree to this replacement then. Sending description of current situation by PM.

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okay i am now up-to-speed. Could the admin change the R'yleh email address to mine and re-send the last turn?

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Done and done.

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Ah... now this sheds light on some actions:

Ryleth is just breaking its NAP with marignon and now I know why. I though the old player would have informed you, but marignon and Ryleth are Napped since pretty much the start - we went to fight atlantis together.

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From what I have seen before R'lyeh got a new player [and got some stales], Marignon got a chance to grab some cheap lands and grab a nice bunch of R'lyeh provs. I guess Marignon hoped that R'lyeh will be set AI or new player won't be so competent? :)

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Ah.. no. I didnt attack Ryleth at any time, and before the old player left I've told him to take all my water provinces to kill off the remaining Atlantian forces.

I counted on further teamwork, actually. Thats why I'm of course rather pissed now;)

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So you are trying to make an anti-Ermor propaganda and work with more feared R'lyeh at the same time? And also while you are clearly the strongest nation in the game? Don't you feel it's not really going to work together? :)

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No, actually not - and Ermor has long passed the point where it can be stopped. And I'm not winning most of the battles right now;)


And, btw - the game didnt say anything about Machiavellian (sp) rules, so I relied on the fact that a NAP will be honored:/

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My undead hordes are no match to your elemental royalty and legions of mages. I already lost like 15-20 provs to your armies. Ermor is not so strong. Undead are crap. You can kill thousands and lose nothing.

And I'd say it's hard to honour smth you don't know exists :)

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Now that you opened the second front I'll have a hard time closing it again.

And Rigor Mortis is very bad for my old mages. And... I wonder how far we are from Utterdark.

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Not to interrupt all this fascinating diplomacy, but unfortuantely the maji of Caelum have been called to the north reagions know as Ca'Naidia and will be in transit for a few days with uncertain internet.

I would like to request that hosting the next turn be postponed until monday the 31st, 6pm PST.
Hopefully even in the chill lands to the north, some AC power and effective internet will be found and I may get the turn in sooner.

Anthropos of Caelum

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@SciencePro: Could you plz respond to me via pm or in this forum?

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Nice work Zeldor. I'll try to remember that. Did you know we were NAPed?

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So, could anyone update me on the situation?

As far as I understand, Rlyeh for metagaming reasons backstabbed Marignon, the only player with a border to Ermor who was sane enough to try and actually fight him. Since Rlyeh thwarted the only nation that was fighting Ermor with *some* success, Ermor is gonna crush it too; in other words, Rlyeh is supporting the clear winner.

I think Baalz missed something in his 'good players pledge'. Truth told, we can declare Zeldor a winner already.

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R'lyeh, you should read this, it's from the Zebra thread:

"3. The diplomacy is not bound to any ethical rules, you may under no circumstance start metagame whining about broken deals, channel that anger into some roleplayed vendettas instead."

What you are doing is wrong, why do you do this thing?


I would also like to end this game already. If any of you believe to have any possibility of hindering Ermor's growth, PM me.

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For me it all looks just like Marignon propaganda. From what I know R'lyeh got a new player and he was not informed about any treaties. I as Ermor had no idea that R'lyeh has any agreements with Marignon - rather contrary. I know there were some strange things happening early on that unfortunately were not checked by llamabeast [2 R'lyeh pretenders ?]. I also know that Marignon took some provinces from R'lyeh when he was staling, before new player took over. Maybe they got raided by Atlantis AI and Marignon would give them back to R'lyeh, but I cannot tell if there was offer like that. I can only speak for what I know and saw. R'lyeh and Marignon should write here - I just don't agree with saying bad stuff about R'lyeh only because he subbed into the game and is not according like some people would expect to.

P.S. Marignon killed over 500 of my troops in one battle :(

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It may be a Marignon propaganda, or it may not, it doesnt matter.

Fact if fact - nobody tries to stop Ermor. Unchecked, growing Ermor becomes unstoppable. Its like 2 x 2. Zeldor, I enjoyed your propaganda in the ingame messages, because its in-character and funny. )) But dont try it here, dont insult our intelligence. :)

Rlyeh just thwarted the only player who tried to do something. He doesnt do that to win, because he wont stand the chance against Ermor either. Metagaming is such a metagaming.

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Well, I really cannot judge the situation. I am not impressed with all that Ermor threat, but surely I am way less vulnerable now than few turns ago. I lost a lot of provs to Marignon when he attacked me [I was stretched out, no armies nearby, no Rigor Mortis].

You are telling that people don't want to help Marignon fight me. But why would they want to help Marignon win? He has artifacts, elemantal royalty, unique summons, bloodhunting, research, etc. So someone would have to help him do tough war against me, just to get attacked by Marignon later? :)

P.S. Just looked at score graphs, it looks a bit more in my favor, I will admit that. 43 forts and more troops that other players combined.

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Zeldor........... I begged you to stop this propaganda war, didnt I? Sigh.

Because its possible to stop Marignon. He doesnt have TONS of freespawn, his unique summons arent THAT scary, etc etc. Marignon is just another nation. I know I will have a fair chance of stopping him, should the need arise.
But you cant stop an overgrown Ermor. When people say that LA Ermor becomes unstoppable when not ganged upon, they mean it. Look at the graphs, they are self-explaining. Look at the Hall of fame, who's won the most games in the late age.

You did a good job convincing everyone that you are not scary at all, you really want to be allowed to consume all nations one by one. I understand that wish of yours, who doesnt want an easy victory. But please, when you feed me with such obvious nonsense, I can help feeling insulted.

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Oh well, are not game threads a part of propaganda? :) If not, then sorry :) But I really feel lucky not to have you as my neighbour :) But few turns ago if Marignon player wanted, I'd have happily switched nations as I really thought he is in better position [I know, I know, switching does not happen and is not fair, but still].

Anyway, Marignon should say something here to solve our dilemma :)

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:)
Lets just keep playing... Miracles do happen time after time. Who knows, maybe its not as bleak as it seems.

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Huh, I don't like the situation in the north. At least I hope that Marignon has same feelings about his south.

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I know its late, but, I would like to appeal for a 48 hour extension on this turn.

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To shed some light on the situation:

I went to help Ryleth in the beginning when Ryleth was at war with Atlantis and loosing. I NAPed to Ryleth even earlier. Once my attack commenced - and, due to my sailers, with a lot of success - Atlantis went AI. I didnt manage to conquer his territory though, as I cant take his water provinces and his monolith pretender is too strong.

During this time Ermor asked me for a NAP. I declined, as I was sure Ermor would only grow stronger in time and I was the prime nation to stop it. In fact, probably the only one, though I was not among the top 5 nation when I declared war on Ermor. I just thought my H3 priests would be enough.

The war started well, until Rigor mortis came into play after I took about 15 provinces from Ermor. Now the front has stalled, and only recently I was able to gain some ground by using an Earth master in combination with the medusa shield and about 14 revigoration. Together with 8 priests.

All my cries for help against this menace went unheard but of for Abyssia, who got attacked my Man before he could do anything.

Then, all of a sudden, Ryleth attacked a province of mine - unsucessfully. I thought this must be due to an insane commander (it cant happen, can it?) and decided to look over it. Next turn, the same happened. I decided to write Ryleth a message. Next turn, he attacked with 300+ troops.

My tries to solve this situation diplomatically failed - though I explained the situation with the NAP to the new player, he announced he was "commited" to the war now and will not turn back.


With Ermor pushing through the oceans for my island homes, and Ryleth going in from the south, I'm temptered to go AI. I cannont stand for more than 3 turns in any sensible way.

So I would definitly vote to end this game and declare Ermor the winner.

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Well, as we are talking stories I could as well tell mine.

I got it easy early on, with Gath underperforming. His neighbours should have used it too, not let me grab all his provs and his cap. Same for Pythium - got his cap easily. Jomon got into defensive position really fast, so I grabbed his provs with ease [dunno what was his plan with almost no research and really big income]. I had no plans to attack Jomon really, but his massive gold income would mean he could spam so many forts and priests and he'd be a huge threat for me, sooner or later.

I was not prepared at all for war with Marignon - it were provs I just gained, far far from my dominion and my armies, which were fighting Pythium and Gath at that point. So I lost about 15 provs to Mari before I could deploy Rigor Mortis casters and other troops. I then got a chance to regroup, move my armies, get some research done and mass armies to open new fronts, through water, to Marignon cap.

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I staled five turns in a row in the early game due to some misplanning on my part, I tried to regrasp the situation but with Ermor going into offensive there was nothing to do but to deny any income possible for them :)

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So what's the situation?

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Yay, I have 45 forts :)

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I've just sent in this turn.
Would like an extension on the next turn until teusday please.
Sorry I am going slow, real life is hitting me like a ton of bricks right now.

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wow I've only been playing D3 for a couple weeks and already certain sure do seem pissed at me since i took over Ry'leh:( I don't think there is any good reason for it through...

Okay, well I guess I see why someone might be mad at me. I can even see why you might assume that from what I said. But that’s not what I meant. Here is what actually went down:

1. As I start subbing for Ry’leh, the previous player informs me that I have NAP’s with Marignon, Ermor and some other stuff.
2. Zeldor is the only one to contact me and offer to work with me. He tells me that Marignon has (since the other player has been staleing) stabbed Ry’leh in the back and taken a bunch of my provinces. He names the specific provinces and the map seems to corroborate what he is saying. Zeldor suggested that I help him and counter-attack Marignon which I agree to.
3. Ossa/Marignon starts whining incessantly about how I attacked him and broke our NAP. I start to get a little annoyed. I tell him that I hope there are no hard feelings and that I am happy to work with him in other games.
4. Ossa PM’s me that, because of what I did in setsumi, he is renouncing our NAP-3 in a different game (Zebra). He sneak attacks me there before I even read the message. Now I am kind of pissed since this is flagrant metagraming which is forbidden in Zebra. I consider whining about it but decide to just let it be.
5. Ossa then sends out a message to all in setsumi whining about how unfair it is that I attacked him and how I am a liar and I can’t be trusted. Now I’m really pissed so I fire back a response pointing out how full of crap he is.

I’m sorry I mentioned Zebra at all, the only reason it even came up is because of Ossa’s metagaming. In fact, Ossa is the ONLY one metagaming here, not me. All I did was call him on his crap.