Don,
Will try this one more time! Again all cross referenced with notes as needed.
1. Russia/BPM-97/2000/C2 P10/12.7mm or 30mm w/BMP-8 Sim. Turret/
http://www.military-today.com/apc/bpm_97.htm
Though used for Border Units I believe it plays a role in Recon now but this info isn't solid. Your call here.

2. China/QL550/2006/C3 P6/12.7mm/
http://www.military-today.com/apc/ql_550.htm and
http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/hta...spx?comments=Y

These represent much improved units (IU) over their predecessors
(In WinSPMBT)or are new.

3. Germany,Austria, Belgium, Czech Republic and Luxembourg (For source continuity.)/DINGO 2/2007/C4 P4 or 7/Remote 7.62mm, 12.7mm or 40mmGL/IU/
http://www.military-today.com/apc/dingo_2.htm
and http://www.army-guide.com/eng/product1280.html

4. Switzerland, Denmark & Germany/MOWAG DURO IIIP/2007/C2 P10/Remote 7.62mm or 40mmAGL/IU/
http://www.military-today.com/apc/mowag_duro_iiip.htm

5. China/VN-3/2008/C3 P2 (Scouts)/12.7mm or 14.5mm pictured/
http://www.military-today.com/apc/vn3.htm and
http://www.strategycenter.net/resear...pub_detail.asp

6. England/MASTIFF 2/2009/C2 P6/7.62mm and Remote 12.7mm or 40mmGMG/IU/
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/mastiff-2/

7. USA/M-ATV/2009/C4 P1 (Gunner)/12.7mm/
http://www.military-today.com/apc/oshkosh_matv.htm and
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/oshkosh-mrap/

Went to post and edit to prevent being timed out again. Pictures on next post sorry for inconvenience.

Regards,
Pat

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Don,
Pictures for post #51, again sorry for the inconvenience. Will be departing 31 Jan for some R&R and will be back on 10 Feb. to check both MRAP and APC threads should you have any issues with info submitted. Please if not to inconvienant let me know what the "drop dead" date is if something comes up.
Pics:
1.Attachment 9353 2.Attachment 9354 3.Attachment 9355

4.Attachment 9356 5.Attachment 9357

Many thanks again, pics 6 and 7 on next post.
Regards,
Pat

Re: MRAPs and a couple of general questions.
 

Don,
Last two!
6.Attachment 9358 and 7.Attachment 9359

Again thanks for your patience and the opportunity to do this. The slopes are calling and the skis can't wait! And I have some reading to catch up on. Someone will know this "set" I'm reading now and say not bad for a "Yank", "You ask, What is our aim? I can answer in one word: Victory - victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror; victory, however long and hard the road may be; for without victory, there is no survival." For now a wise man who should've been listened too.
Good Night to you and all and have a great weekend!
With Regards,
Pat

Re: MRAPs and a couple of general questions.
 

I haven't had a chance to look at any of this yet and probably won't for a week or two . It's all in my files though. IDK how much will get in but I'm aiming for as much as possible but I put the DURO IIIP into all three natons last week based on another report and the Mastiff's been in the game now for three years so chances are a lot of this will end up , or already has made it, to the game

Don

Re: MRAPs and a couple of general questions.
 

Don,
No problem, understand about the work load. Just glad to be able to contribute to a small degree. Have to "hit the rack" as we have an early start and looks like weather to contend with later today. If you have any issues I'll be back by time you get to these anyway if any require further research etc.
Good Night!
Pat
No Response Needed.

Re: MRAPs and a couple of general questions.
 

It's amazing how things come back around, see post #1. This is the one I was refering to that caused a lot of :doh:'s, :banghead ing and :re: by me and others I'm afraid.

1. BAEs NEW CAIMAN C&P10 plus 1 gunner.:
http://www.defense-update.com/produc..._19022010.html

2. Improved MAXXPRO DASH:
http://www.defense-update.com/featur...sh_170210.html and for more background
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/maxxpro-dash/

3. India gets into the game with the TATA MPV-I:
http://defense-update.com/features/2...10_170210.html

Of course as always the pics:
Attachment 9542 Attachment 9543 Attachment 9544

Well good night and Regards to all,
Pat
p.s. Have I found some neat things in the SP and SPAA world. Coming soon to FORUM near you!!

Re: MRAPs and a couple of general questions.
 

BAE Systems unveils the RG OUTRIDER at the AUSA 2010 Winter show. This is the follow on vehicle to the successful RG-32M Series. Developed for first response and extreme off road requirements.
Source:
http://www.defense-update.com/produc..._26022010.html
Pic from source:
Attachment 9607

Regards,
Pat

Re: MRAPs and a couple of general questions.
 

Since things have been quiet around here lately I think due to "pre-patch release syndrome" and a general lack of updates in the areas I'm following, I thought I would provide the following article concerning the future role of the MRAP as the Iraqi theater of operations winds down. I hope for those who read it you'll find it as interesting as I did.
http://www.defense-update.com/featur..._26022010.html
The AI awaits me as my Japanese forces get ready for a "special battle" against the Russians in a meeting engagement or in AI speak prepare to be met by a large assaulting force! Take Care and have a GREAT weekend! And for those who celebrate it, a HAPPY ST. PADDYS DAY!!:cheers: :ire :shamrock: :party:
Sometimes you just gotta love them icons.
Regards,
Pat

Re: MRAPs and a couple of general questions.
 

As predicted the M-ATV will replace the HUMEVEE for in theatre military ops in Afghanistan. But as this article the HUMEVEE has reached it order limits but all will be modernised as they become available from current operations.
http://www.army-guide.com/eng/articl...p?forumID=1662
See post #51 for more info on the M-ATV.
Regards,
Pat

Re: MRAPs and a couple of general questions.
 

Not all HMMWVs, all Up-Armored HMMWVs. This is an important distinction. This was the USMC plan with the original MRAPs and it didn't last long. It will be interesting to see if this actually comes to pass.

Modernized and recapitalized are also not the same. It amounts to overhauling them to a degree to which they have essentially "0 miles" on them. They'll still be the same models. The program initially took various subvariants no longer in widespread usage and upgraded them to a common standard.

The US military, and the Army in particular, doesn't really have a clear strategy yet for exactly how its going to integrate the MRAPs into the various wheeled vehicle upgrade programs its been working on for twenty years now. The M-ATV program really overlaps a lot with the JLTV program. There was some concern about whether the abortive MRAP II program was to have supplanted that requirement as well. It seems that the people running the JLTV have managed to keep it sufficiently separate to keep it funded for the time being. The Army has also expressed an interest in the HMMWV ECV 2 series as an interim step between the ECV series and whatever comes after the HMMWV.

Re: MRAPs and a couple of general questions.
 

Sorry to say this,,, this is a clearly photoshopped pic.
Notice it a moving picture,yet the holes in the wheels are not blurred, looks like a model,too perfect.

Re: MRAPs and a couple of general questions.
 

Bit of work to get the tyres blurred round edges etc, lot easier just to take photo of it moving.

Taken close up does not have to be going very fast for background to blur as pan.
Also note wheels have 3 holes in top picture more in bottom.
This is due to rotation speed being in synch with something just like sometimes when a vehicle slows down the wheels appear to rotate backwards for a moment.
Get the frame synch just right & you can film a helicopter flying without its rotor appearing to move for instance.

Re: MRAPs and a couple of general questions.
 

Your correct on some,but still looks too perfect.
Clearly some retouching is done.
Probaly the DOD recuiting propaganda.
Good photo's anyway FT:D

Re: MRAPs and a couple of general questions.
 

Just came across this article concerning the RANGER. For IMP, Cross or someone else from across the pond does a visit like this mean anything when a piece of equipment is several monthes into the evaluation process?
http://www.universalengineering.co.uk/news.html
Regards,
Pat

Re: MRAPs and a couple of general questions.
 

No idea would say no possibly a marketing/awarness ploy, the article does state its touring all sub-contractors as part of its trials. Probably tied in with DSEi show mentioned.
Of course he could have been there to acess the manufacturing capabilities of the company if given the contract despite having no clue in that field. Fairly typical Govt procedure esp if he was accompanied by half a dozen other "experts" in that field.
Wouldnt happen in real life obviously as it would be a terrible waste of public money, kinda like letting a Civy have the final decision on what weapon systems to purchase rather than letting the guys that are going to use it decide.

Re: MRAPs and a couple of general questions.
 

John,
Sounds like it's the same as here, just wasn't sure.
Thanks!
Regards,
Pat

Re: MRAPs and a couple of general questions.
 

SPV400 enters second round of blast testing as the competition between it and the OCELOT continues. British MOD conducting competition in the LPPV class of vehicles with the winner replacing MOD's Land Rovers.
http://www.army-guide.com/eng/article/article_1714.html
Pic:
Attachment 10115
Regards,
Pat

Re: MRAPs and a couple of general questions.
 

Updates on two programs I've been tracking. First the HAWKEI makes the "AUSSIE" shortlist, see posts #29 & #31 for more background on this thread. Update as follows:
http://www.defpro.com/news/details/15513/
And next an OCELOT update, this is one of two vehicles
(SPV400 is the other.) chosen as finalists in the British MOD LPPV program. Update as follows:
http://www.defpro.com/news/details/15489/
Regards,
Pat

Re: MRAPs and a couple of general questions.
 

The US Army tends to create new units (platoons. companies, battalions, etc.) whenever they adopt a new type of equipment, such as a wheeled, light armored, light armed APC - i.e. MRAP.

My understanding is the USMC has never had any plans to create "MRAP" units. They have them, they use them, issuing them when needed to existing units (platoons and companies) as transport vehicles in place of trucks, LVT/AAV's, etc.

Re: MRAPs and a couple of general questions.
 

Actually, in this case the only service I know to have specifically created MRAP units is the USMC, which attached provisional companies of the vehicles to existing units to be doled out as needed.

I also wouldn't say the US Army creates new units every time a new piece of equipment comes along. It does modify the TOEs very often, but rarely is the unit designation changed. When the USMC creates a provisional unit they seem to apply a relatively unambiguous name, like "MRAP Company." The US Army on the other hand simply creates some magical MTOE from an existing one (or even makes an new official TOE), and then slaps something in parenthesis on the end that is decidedly more confusing. The basic unit designation doesn't change and is entirely based on the branch the unit is in.

As far as MRAPs are concerned, the only unit in the US Army that is specifically designed to use them are the Engineer Companies (Route Clearance), which were planned to be equipped with them when the vehicles were being tested prior to start of the craze in 2004. These units had been planned under the program to develop a Ground Standoff Minefield Detection System which started testing vehicles in 1999.

In 2007, the USMC had initiated a plan to replace all up-armored HMMWVs it had with MRAPs. By November 2007, the USMC had shifted its plan, reducing its buy significantly, with the balance going to services that had in the interim actually increased their buy (this was basically everyone else). The US Army has integrated these vehicles into existing units in lieu of HMMWVs for the most part, and trucks to a lesser degree. With the exception of the provisional companies already noted, this appears to have been the case in the USMC too. The new M-ATV is being similarly integrated in place of units that were to have been issued HMMWVs.

Re: MRAPs and a couple of general questions.
 

I wasn't clear when I said "create new units". :doh:

What I ment was, as you said, the USMC does tends to in fact create something like an "MRAP Company" and dole then out as needed.
Whereas the US Army tends to incorporate stuff into the existing MTOE thus essentially creating a new MTOE, thus "unit" type.

I'd heard about the fanciful notion to replace the all armored HMMWVs with MRAPs, and knew it'd been essentially stillborn.
What exactly do you have on M-ATV deployment, numbers, and incorporation, in the USMC?

Re: MRAPs and a couple of general questions.
 

The total DoD buy as of November 2009 was ~6,500 vehicles. By January 2010, it was 6,619. A news story in March 2010 suggested the Army's portion of that was ~6,000 vehicles by itself. That's the latest info I have. I have not seen anything clear about their distribution, but I assume that they are likely being subbed in for UAHs as appropriate. This is all on Globalsecurity.org's page on the M-ATV.

Re: MRAPs and a couple of general questions.
 

The M-ATV numbers are close, army-guide.com off their contract page has the count at 6556 units that have been paid for to date.
defpro.com reports that about 470 more units will be delivered to SOCOM in Oct. - Nov. 2010 with the CROWS II system mounted. I think one of my first posts on the M-ATV gave a breakdown on who's getting what and how many. SOCOM M-ATV article:
http://www.defpro.com/daily/details/586/
Will have news on the MRAP world when I get back from my wife's
big ..th (After all I am a gentleman now.) birthday party in beautiful Savannah, GA. until then to all of you enjoy your weekends!!!
Regards,
Pat

Re: MRAPs and a couple of general questions.
 

In that post you suggested that out of a 6,500 vehicle total, the USMC was to get 1,100, the USAF and Navy 100, and the Army would get the balance. Army News reported in March 2010 that it expected the service to receive 6,000 vehicles.

I need to update the specific page on Globalsecurity.org because we also have this announcement from Oshkosh from February suggesting a total buy of 8,079 vehicles by that point (up a little less than 1,500 from the January total). This would easily allow for a USMC buy of 1,100 or more vehicles, depending on the requirements for the USAF and Navy (and those 450 vehicles for SOCOM, but I don't know if that's on this contract or not).

The contract limit I believe was 10,000 vehicles, so it could easily get up to that.

Re: MRAPs and a couple of general questions.
 

Well the numbers will be in flux, I first reported on the M-ATV in the end of Sept. 2009, alot has happened since then. Also for future reference army-guide.com only reports on the contracts as they are signed and approved for further procurement of existing programs and as new ones come on line i.e. ARCHER SPA.
Alright here we go!
1. OCELOT of the British MOD MPPV program has been selected by the Australian MOD as the final entry into their LAND 121 program it will compete against the HAWKEI and EAGLE IV. SPV 400 not chosen to participate. Does this give the OCELOT the inside track in the UK MOD MPPV program? On the surface of it simply, no! This article quickly and nicely ties in all three vehicles into the LAND 121 program.
http://www.defense-update.com/newsca..._26052010.html

2. UK MOD tenders for SUPRACAT SPV 400 as it moves on in the MPPV program.
http://www.defpro.com/news/details/15805/

New Vehicles:

1. GILA/Nigeria&UNAMID/2007&2009 Respectively/C2 P9-10/
TM 12.7mm or 20mm & RM 7.62mm or DB 40mm GL RDs for all UKN/WinSPMBT Status: Not in (Or any see below.).
http://www.army-guide.com/eng/product3338.html,
http://www.army-technology.com/contr...ma/press1.html,
http://www.army-technology.com/contr...ehicles/ivema/ and http://www.military-today.com/apc/ivema_gila.htm
This is NOT the CASSPIR and not made by the same company, though using it as a benchmark, in a manner of speaking it is one on "steroids". UNAMID units purchased by Canada for Darfur Ops. A couple of these sources (And others.) indicate up to seven African countries operate these from some "snippets" I came across I would say South Africa , Senegal, Angola and Kenya. And I'm still short one. Senegal and Angola I believe are using ones supplied by UNAMID for Darfur. Any help here would be good with good sources for Don as my mission is to get improved and new units into the game.
Pics:
Attachment 10195 Attachment 10194

2. MADADOR/South Africa, Azerbaijan & Jordon (2011)/2010/
C2 P12/TM 12.7mm Rds UKN/
WinSPMBT Status: Not in.
http://www.military-today.com/apc/matador_mrap.htm,
http://www.armyrecognition.com/jorda...igence_uk.html, http://www.army-guide.com/eng/product4039.html and http://www.army-technology.com/contr...ramount-group/ Note info in last on MARUADER the urban combat version. Boosts best protection in it's class. Note para 4 from first source.
Pics:
Attachment 10196 Attachment 10197
Good Night!
Regards,
Pat

Re: MRAPs and a couple of general questions.
 

Well the numbers will be in flux, I first reported on the M-ATV in the end of Sept. 2009, alot has happened since then. Also for future reference army-guide.com only reports on the contracts as they are signed and approved for further procurement of existing programs and as new ones come on line i.e. ARCHER SPA.
Alright here we go!
1. OCELOT of the British MOD MPPV program has been selected by the Australian MOD as the final entry into their LAND 121 program it will compete against the HAWKEI and EAGLE IV. SPV 400 not chosen to participate. Does this give the OCELOT the inside track in the UK MOD MPPV program? On the surface of it simply, no! This article quickly and nicely ties in all three vehicles into the LAND 121 program.
http://www.defense-update.com/newsca..._26052010.html

2. UK MOD tenders for SUPRACAT SPV 400 as it moves on in the MPPV program.
http://www.defpro.com/news/details/15805/

New Vehicles:

1. GILA/Nigeria&UNAMID/2007&2009 Respectively/C2 P9-10/
TM 12.7mm or 20mm & RM 7.62mm or DB 40mm GL RDs for all UKN/WinSPMBT Status: Not in (For any see below.).
http://www.army-guide.com/eng/product3338.html,
http://www.army-technology.com/contr...ma/press1.html,
http://www.army-technology.com/contr...ehicles/ivema/ and http://www.military-today.com/apc/ivema_gila.htm
This is NOT the CASSPIR and not made by the same company, though using it as a benchmark, in a manner of speaking it is one on "steroids". UNAMID units purchased by Canada for Darfur Ops. A couple of these sources (And others.) indicate up to seven African countries operate these from some "snippets" I came across I would say South Africa , Senegal, Angola and Kenya. And I'm still short one. Senegal and Angola I believe are using ones supplied by UNAMID for Darfur. Any help here would be good with good sources for Don as my mission is to get improved and new units into the game.
Pics:
Attachment 10195 Attachment 10194

2. MADADOR/South Africa, Azerbaijan & Jordon (2011)/2010/
C2 P12/TM 12.7mm Rds UKN/
WinSPMBT Status: Not in.
http://www.military-today.com/apc/matador_mrap.htm,
http://www.armyrecognition.com/jorda...igence_uk.html, http://www.army-guide.com/eng/product4039.html and http://www.army-technology.com/contr...ramount-group/ Note info in last on MARUADER the urban combat version. Boasts best protection in it's class. Note para 4 from first source.
Pics:
Attachment 10196 Attachment 10197
Good Night!
Regards,
Pat

Re: MRAPs and a couple of general questions.
 

I will address a couple of specifics later, but this is a "cheat" article as also posted on the APC and MBT threads.
http://www.army-technology.com/features/feature90405/

Regards,
Pat

Re: MRAPs and a couple of general questions.
 

SUPACAT is pushing the SPV-400 hard in it's competion against the OCELOT in the British MOD LPPV program.
http://www.defpro.com/news/details/17143/
Pic:
Attachment 10296

Romania gets donated MRAPS.
http://www.defpro.com/news/details/17157/

Regards,
Pat

Re: MRAPs and a couple of general questions.
 

US MRAP testing inadequate? You decide.
http://www.defpro.com/news/details/18011/

BUSHMASTER makes Canada's short list in their TAPV Program.
http://www.defpro.com/news/details/18015/

41 blast tests and the OCELOT is still going strong in the UK MOD's aggressive test program, probably the best blast test program out there after public and government concerns over casualties suffered due to IED's over the last few years.
http://www.defpro.com/news/details/17924/

And finally as promised the RG-41 on display and unveiled at EUROSATORY 2010. Might come in handy for the morning commute. I think we'll see more of this within the next year.
http://www.armyrecognition.com/south...ations_uk.html

Pic:
Attachment 10424

Regards,
Pat

Re: MRAPs and a couple of general questions.
 

Good to see a story of some of the equipment we discuss save lives in the real world.
http://www.defpro.com/news/details/18093/
Obviously the upgrades to the MASTIFF during the last year as earlier reported have most certainly paid off.

Regards,
Pat

Re: MRAPs and a couple of general questions.
 

Everything you ever wanted to know about MRAPs but were afraid to ask. A very good over view that covers the major players in the MRAP field and developmental history.
http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/...0532/#more-532

Pic:
Attachment 10504

M-ATV success story for OSH-KOSH but what about the competion?
http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/...602/#more-5602

Regards,
Pat

Re: MRAPs and a couple of general questions.
 

This was meant to go with the last post sorry for any incompet...
I meant of course inconvenience.
Attachment 10508
God I need some rack time, good night all!

Regards,
Pat

Re: MRAPs and a couple of general questions.
 

Nice to see that unlike most military equipment the Cougar actually lives up to the manufacturers claims ;)

Re: MRAPs and a couple of general questions.
 

Well it's done, British MOD has made me 1 for 1 in predicting equipment. Chose wrong on the final FRES-SV platform but picked right on the LPPV program vehicle, OCELOT has been chosen over Supacat's SPV-400. See earlier posts on this thread.
http://www.army-guide.com/eng/article/article_1931.html
and http://www.army-guide.com/eng/article/article_1933.html
This will mean "good-bye" for the Land Rover, I think as important to the UK as the JEEP was for us.

Regards,
Pat

Re: MRAPs and a couple of general questions.
 

Not a land rover replacement - a replacement for the snatch land rover. land rover will still remain as a utility vehicle. (TUL is I think the current acronym - Truck Utility Light(?)).

Snatch was OK for its designed role (Internal security, proof against SAA ammo and petrol bombs, improvised pipe bombs etc), inside Northern Ireland. But outside of an all-tarmac road environment, it was too overloaded to deal with cross country movement - so was restricted to tracks and therefore to any IEDS placed alongside same.

Snatch should be 2WD - it is currently listed as 4WD in the OOB.

Cheers
Andy

Re: MRAPs and a couple of general questions.
 

You are correct, I pulled the trigger a little too fast on that statement.

Regards,
Pat

Re: MRAPs and a couple of general questions.
 

Even in peacetime I can attest to this. When our unit transitioned to M1 MBT's, basically, we sucked on our first gunnery after transition training. It didn't help that the qualification tables were jiggered with at the same time. A year later, when we knew what the heck we were doing it was a totally different story. Most of the units that I had knowledge of during that period had the same problem. So yeah, dropping off your M47 for an M48, or your T55 for a T62, is going to come at the cost of some level of effectiveness for some period of time. :bug:

Re: MRAPs and a couple of general questions.
 

USMC spends a billion dollars on new and upgrades to existing MRAP vehicles see related articles as well.
http://defense-update.com/wp/2010121..._variants.html

Regards,
Pat

Re: MRAPs and a couple of general questions.
 

Just took this off my list as I can't support this as an "ADD" or "MOD" as my confidence level is very low that British MOD will get this vehicle for SPEC Ops or Recon work anytime soon. So here's the TMV 6x6.
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/tmv6X6/
http://www.armyrecognition.com/unite...ations_uk.html
Pic:
Attachment 10743

Another interesting vehicle I think we'll see in the game because I foresee some success for it the MBOMBE.
http://www.army-technology.com/proje...ntmbombe6x6ar/
http://www.armyrecognition.com/south...ations_uk.html
Pic:
Attachment 10744

Regards,
Pat

Re: MRAPs and a couple of general questions.
 

Since the EFV looks like it may be dead and neither the AAVP or "armored" HMMWV really cuts the mustard as an APC (stress on the "armored" part) its nice to see the budget being used for something fairly worthwhile.

Now...if they only came in an amphibious variant...

Re: MRAPs and a couple of general questions.
 

This is the raw data only as submitted from the last patch post I submitted. It's been my policy to repost these into their "home" threads for comment or not.

MRAPS and a couple...
A1. ADD: ROMANIA/MAXXPRO DASH/JAN 2011/
C3 (Including gunner.) P6/Turreted 12.7mm w/2KRds/
They will receive 60 units on loan from the U.S., 20 of which are brand new with 40 refurbished and upgraded to meet the newer specs of units now operating in theater by the U.S. These are the better protected more maneuverable U.S. versions since initially deployed in 2007. Expect Romania to keep these as a 'thank you" for serving with the coalition. First units were delivered in Oct 2010 (8) they should have most by now and be trained in their use as well that's why JAN 2011.
http://www.defpro.com/news/details/18551/
http://www.janes.com/articles/Janes-...ghanistan.html
http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/...avistar-03344/
http://www.army-technology.com/proje...ash/specs.html

A2. ADD: NIGERIA & UN/GILA/JAN 2008/C2 P10/Turreted 12.7mm UKN Rds & RM 7.62mm UKN Rds./ As noted by the post this again is a CASSPRI on steroids with, much better all around armor protection and mobility. DENAL in fact this past summer has just released the new CASSPIR 4 to compete against the GILA. Also the company website lists that seven countries operate the GILA if I use the AU countries that have supplied troops to DARFUR they would be Cameroon, Egypt, Ethiopia, Malawi, Nigeria, Rwanda, Senegal, Tanzania and Uganda. Though on the post I gave my best guess (Angola and Kenya had troops there at the time of the refs as posted.) of who else has them I can't find anything concrete on them or of any listed above except Nigeria. Only Senegal "reappears" from the first post to now. Nigeria and UN (Canada selected these over the CASSPIR and others in the procurement process for UNADIM.) are the only ones I can say I'm sure of.
Post: Page 8; #75 for pictures as well.

A3. ADD: UK/OCELOT/JUN 2011/P6/RM 12.7mm w/2KRds/
The problem here is that a team of six get to and fight from this vehicle, there is no crew per say, I don't know how you can make this work? Won the UK MOD completion in the LPPV program beating out the Supacat SPV 400.
http://www.defpro.com/news/details/20095/
http://www.army-technology.com/news/news103743.html
Posts: Page 7; #68, Page 8; #79 and Page 9; #84 for pictures as well.

Regards,
Pat

Re: MRAPs and a couple of general questions.
 

Just my two cents - MRAPs are pieces of garbage. Take my word for it.

Re: MRAPs and a couple of general questions.
 

They're good for what they're designed for.

Improved survivability vs IED's while driving on roads.

Only reporters and civilians think they're a suitable replacement for APC's / IFV's.

Re: MRAPs and a couple of general questions.
 

The news of the past week.

As one of my first posts, THALES has delivered it's two prototypes of the HAWKEI in Australia's LAND 121 program. Other competitors include the OCELOT and EAGLE. I believe a decision is due this year if memory serves.
http://www.defpro.com/news/details/22384/

Regards,
Pat

Re: MRAPs and a couple of general questions.
 

News of the last couple of weeks.

When you break sells records, you can afford a few toys.
http://en.rian.ru/mlitary_news/20110311/162951763.html
From the "DID" site.

Regards,
Pat

Re: MRAPs and a couple of general questions.
 

News of the LW+:

Paramount of S. Africa asked to bring a couple of their vehicles to several S. American countries for evaluations. Marauder has already been reported on in this thread.
http://www.defpro.com/news/details/23744/

Regards,
Pat

Re: MRAPs
 

A little something for those "MRAPpers" out there.

1. Nordic issues and the MRAP shortage. As was posted to the APC thread today as well.
http://www.defensenews.com/story.php...70&c=FEA&s=SPE

2. As posted to the APC and MBT threads today. So many MRAPs and nowhere to put them! In the short term refer yourself back to
#1.
http://www.defensenews.com/story.php...71&c=FEA&s=SPE

That's it been kinda quite out there in this area-sorry!

Need a shower, some sleep before the grind later today (At least it's my TGIF!!). Have a great weekend! IF ANY OF YOU ARE EXPREINCING ANY COOL SUMMER WEATHER, PLEASE SEND IT TO A CERTAIN NAVSUBASE IN SE GA. THANKS!!

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I do like Cartman well, at least until they bombed Canada!?!

Regards,
Pat

Re: MRAPs
 

I was pissed when they took away our HumVees and gave them to the Iraqis. We got issued MRAPs with no extra protection on them, until a crew in our 1st platoon was hit by an EFP, killing one and wounding two. I hope that whoever was responsible for not getting us the up-armor package in time did not sleep afterwards.

Re: MRAPs
 

Taking a break from the list after a long break from it as well. Just think Bananarama "It's a cruel, cruel summer." Anyway if you get BBC America TOP GEAR starts back up again Mon. night and I understand they will put Paramount's MATADOR through it's paces. See page 8 Post #75. Azerbaijan is the only country user also they're a licenced manufacturer.

1. DENAL is ready for full production of the CASSPIR MK6 their answer to the GILA (Also in Post #75.). Look to the SAF as being it's first user given their long history with the CASSPIR. The CASSPIR can trace it's lineage back to the early 70's with the SAF HIPPO, probably the first vehicle to embrace the concept of the MRAP.
http://www.army-guide.com/eng/article/article_2256.html
http://www.armyrecognition.com/south...s_picture.html
http://www.defpro.com/news/details/26950/
Pics:
Attachment 11258 Attachment 11259

Regards,
Pat

Re: MRAPs
 

Well it started that I wasn't going to have anything to offer here, then I remembered about A1. from researching the new LEOPARD 7A1+ from the 2010/2011 campaign, made an offer and honored the request (British Huskey Thread by obreedon) and found another. Just before and after posting the 1st Patch Post I came across three more to be added to my next PP. One of which I recently just posted on (And not to the country of origin.) and another that'll go to I believe five countries total. Both linked to the same country. So that's the news part and here's the PP segment...

MRAPS
Nothing much happening here right now except for the below item. The sector has been very busy in the area of orders for existing equipment. The only other new piece of equipment to fit this category is Paramount’s MATADOR & MAURADER (Pg. 8 Posts #75 & 76.) however Aberbazan is not in the game and they are currently the only operators of these vehicles which some have dubbed "the best in their class". The deal with Jordan never got done. See Posts # for further information.

A1. ADD/NORWAY/DINGO 2/JAN 2011/C1 P7/ARROWS-300 FULL SYSTEM ROT w/40mmHV AGL Rds UKN & M3S 12.7mm w/300RDs./See Ref 3 which shows the turret as described and ordered by Norway./
The DINGO 2 is a much improved version of the DINGO 1 that's better protected and much more mobile.
http://defense-update.com/wp/20101029_dingo_norway.html
http://www.kmweg.de/2922-YWt0X3BhZ2U...ws_detail.html
http://www.kmweg.de/2922-ZG9tPWRvbTE...ws_detail.html
http://www.army-technology.com/proje...rotecetedvehi/
http://www.armedforces-int.com/artic...on-system.html
Also Pg.6 Post #51.

A2. ADD/UK/HUSKEY/JUN 2009/P4 RECON-SPEC OP versions/RWS 12.7mm w/UKN Rds./C2 P2 for Transport, Command or Ambulance versions./Also known as the MXT. The Recon-Spec Op versions are up armored from the others and since all retain the bed portion of the vehicle besides extra fuel and other gear to cause the enemy some havoc, I'm sure there's plenty of room for ammo, I would think 1500 - 2000 Rds would not be unreasonable in this case. This vehicle represents the third in the triad of better protected vehicles UK MOD had sought to lower the causality rates of the ones used prior to them which is why Ref. A is where it's at.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle6695154.ece
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/husky-tsv/
http://www.army-technology.com/proje...tsv/specs.html
http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/...178/#more-5178
http://www.defencetalk.com/work-begi...sh-army-17274/
Pics:

Well I did say this was a living document...

A3. ADD/POLAND/ZUBR/JUN 2011/C2 P10/RWS 12.7mm or optional 7.62mm and 30mm AGL w/UKN Rds. /SPro 4 grenade dispensers. /This vehicle is available in four variants two of which will be addressed here. The ZUBR has protection against 12.7mm rounds and arty shell splinters. Also it has a tow capacity of 3,300lbs (1500kgs) a feature not normally mentioned in the refs. Blast protection against up to 8kg. It is also air portable.
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/zubr-apc/
http://www.militaryfactory.com/armor...p?armor_id=451
http://www.military-today.com/apc/zubr_mrap.htm
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Again pics for these are in the PP Thread. The ZUBR were still in my files.

Regards,
Pat