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rdonj September 19th, 2009 01:20 AM
Re: Sharivar - LA game 4 bussy ppl [12/12, Accepting pretenders]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Trumanator (Post 710984)
The tourmaline map already uploaded should work.
The map I used for Tourmaline is NI Shahrivar 10 starts. Unfortunately, it won't work for this game due to the fact that it only has, well, 10 starts. I'm also pretty sure none of those starts are coastal.

WraithLord September 19th, 2009 04:22 AM
Re: Sharivar - LA game 4 bussy ppl [12/12, Accepting pretenders]
 
I like simple solutions and since my capabilities in the area of map editing are practically non-existent I think we can either:
A. Rely on the kindness of someone who is competent at map editing to apply the fixes. Perhaps ano will be kind enough to take a look - I'll PM him later...

B. Just find another similar size map that doesn't have all these issues.

WraithLord September 19th, 2009 02:02 PM
Re: Sharivar - LA game 4 bussy ppl [12/12, Accepting pretenders]
 
ok, let's proceed. which of the following you like and think is balanced enough for our game:
1. World of Warhammer (Vanilla)
2. Sharivar 10 starts (rdonj: "The map I used for Tourmaline is NI Shahrivar 10 starts"). Who made that one?- Can we ask him to add 2 more starts?
3. Bigger map (200-240). In which case we need 2 more players.

rdonj September 19th, 2009 02:11 PM
Re: Sharivar - LA game 4 bussy ppl [12/12, Accepting pretenders]
 
I made that one :P. I could probably come up with a configuration for 12 starts if it comes down to it. It would mean completely redoing all the starts though. In any case I don't mind either way. It could be interesting playing on world of warhammer... one of the few maps with a significant number of cave provinces.

Fantomen September 19th, 2009 04:26 PM
Re: Sharivar - LA game 4 bussy ppl [12/12, Accepting pretenders]
 
If at all possible I want to play on Sharivar, it´s a *beatiful* map that I havent played MP yet. Can´t we just take Sombres version and edit out summoning circle?

WraithLord September 19th, 2009 04:29 PM
Re: Sharivar - LA game 4 bussy ppl [12/12, Accepting pretenders]
 
I have no idea how well the warhammer map is balanced for MP. It seems to have lots of water which is not that great.
I think our safest choice is to go for 12 starts Sharivar. However this entails extra work for you rdonj. So it's ultimately up to you. You don't have to invest in this if you don't want to or don't have the time for this.
If it comes to that we can just take the warhammer map. It is a beautiful map as well, so should prove pleasant to play with.

Burnsaber September 19th, 2009 06:38 PM
Re: Sharivar - LA game 4 bussy ppl [12/12, Accepting pretenders]
 
1 Attachment(s)
I had about 30 minutes to burn, so..

Here you go, A fixed version of the Shahrivar (Sombre version) with the sites fixed. I replaced all sites that give independent mages or school bonuses with pure gem sites. Some of the sites are pretty good, some even give 4 gems, but since that information is now public, I think that it won't unbalance much.

Code:
-- Famous sites of Shahrivar (visible on the map)

#setland 4
#knownfeature "Monastery of Light"

#setland 7
#knownfeature "Crypt in the Sand"

#setland 11
#knownfeature "Well of Darkness"

#setland 8
#knownfeature "Red Forest"

#setland 33
#knownfeature "The Gate of Deeper Slumber"

#setland 40
#knownfeature "Singing Stones"

#setland 38
#knownfeature "Palace of Dreams"

#setland 51
#knownfeature "Forest of Golden Leaves"

#setland 57
#knownfeature "Damned Merchant"

#setland 62
#knownfeature "Caveman Cavern"

#setland 79
#knownfeature "Sunken Island"

#setland 90
#knownfeature "Lantern Forest"

#setland 97
#knownfeature "Overgrown Lake"

#setland 99
#knownfeature "Gold Mine"

#setland 120
#knownfeature "The Marble Temple"

#setland 116
#knownfeature "Fountain of Rubies"

#setland 121
#knownfeature "Moonlit Pond of Pearls"

#setland 128
#knownfeature "The Vale of Unicorns"

#setland 142
#knownfeature "Strange House in the Mist"

#setland 159
#knownfeature "Crystal Garden"

#setland 165
#knownfeature "Well of Yesterdays Waters"

#setland 158
#knownfeature "Riddle Dark"

#setland 167
#knownfeature "Garden of Weeping Roses"

#setland 166
#knownfeature "Gold Apple Tree"

#setland 171
#knownfeature "Halls of Imprisoned Sunlight"

#setland 173
#knownfeature "Stairway Mountain"


#setland 123
#knownfeature "Gateward Valley"
I'll leave it up to Wraithlord to accept and upload the map to the llamaserver.

.

Fantomen September 19th, 2009 06:47 PM
Re: Sharivar - LA game 4 bussy ppl [12/12, Accepting pretenders]
 
Yay! Good work.:)

Meglobob September 20th, 2009 02:46 AM
Re: Sharivar - LA game 4 bussy ppl [12/12, Accepting pretenders]
 
Thanks Burnsaber! Really wanted to play on Shahrivar.

I would have been happy with the powerful sites, has its incredibly rare you ever see them in MP (like 1 in a 100 games if your lucky) and its gives you a strategic point to fight over.

Nevermind thou, if other people don't want to have fun with such sites.

WraithLord September 20th, 2009 04:42 PM
Re: Sharivar - LA game 4 bussy ppl [12/12, Accepting pretenders]
 
muchas gracias Burnsaber

I can't U/L the map to llamaserver. I get an error:
"The map file you just uploaded specifies an image file that the LlamaServer does not have a copy of. Please upload the image file here, then you can go back and upload the map file again.

Please enter the location of your image file below and click "Upload map image".
"

When I U/L the image it says it's already there. I'll PM the server's master perhaps he can help :)

rdonj September 20th, 2009 05:07 PM
Re: Sharivar - LA game 4 bussy ppl [12/12, Accepting pretenders]
 
I had that problem when I was uploading my version of the map. First thing I'd suggest is removing any and all spaces from the file names and trying again.

WraithLord September 20th, 2009 05:28 PM
Re: Sharivar - LA game 4 bussy ppl [12/12, Accepting pretenders]
 
Yoohoo, that worked :D

We are all set guys. Missing 3 nations to start.

DomDomDom September 21st, 2009 12:02 PM
Re: Sharivar - LA game 4 bussy ppl [12/12, Accepting pretenders]
 
Unfortunately I overlooked this game recruiting.
If one of the players wants to withdraw before game starts I'm ready to replace him as Abyssia.

WraithLord September 21st, 2009 12:04 PM
Re: Sharivar - LA game 4 bussy ppl [12/12, Accepting pretenders]
 
I've changed file names for Burnsaber's files and edited the .map accordingly to resolve the U/L issue.

Later this evening I'll attach the final map files to the first post. Make sure to use them for the game.

WraithLord September 21st, 2009 03:42 PM
Re: Sharivar - LA game 4 bussy ppl [12/12, Accepting pretenders]
 
Map attached to first post.
All pretenders are in and I got no complaints from anyone re. not being able to submit his nation so I'm starting the game now.

Good luck all :)

Trumanator September 21st, 2009 10:22 PM
Re: Sharivar - LA game 4 bussy ppl [12/12, Accepting pretenders]
 
Is my start prov meant to be a wasteland w/only 3 neighbors? I'll be fine, but its still rather annoying.

WraithLord September 22nd, 2009 03:22 AM
Re: Sharivar - LA game 4 bussy ppl [12/12, Accepting pretenders]
 
Pray you don't get an earthquake razed temple event ;)

Seriously, luck is part of the game. We could have used fixed start locs but I personally find it more exciting to let luck decide. I hope you'll do good despite your start loc :)

WraithLord September 22nd, 2009 05:22 PM
Re: Sharivar - LA game 4 bussy ppl [12/12, Accepting pretenders]
 
Fantomen, please submit your turn. The hosting schedule is 24h. You should have staled had the server not strangely added a 24h extension all by itself :)

Next time you need an extension just ask me.

Fantomen September 22nd, 2009 07:01 PM
Re: Sharivar - LA game 4 bussy ppl [12/12, Accepting pretenders]
 
Sorry bout that. I have some problems, when I try to load the turn my game crashes. Trying to solve it now...

Edit: ok, problem solved. Doing turn now.

mscfish September 26th, 2009 01:10 AM
Re: Sharivar - LA game 4 bussy ppl [12/12, Accepting pretenders]
 
Py declare war upon the unholy ashen empire.We will clean the undead in the name of Roma.If you agree with us,maybe some money is very useful to us,and your that friendly and just behavior will be reward.

PY mscfish

viccio September 28th, 2009 08:36 AM
Re: Sharivar - LA game 4 bussy ppl [12/12, Accepting pretenders]
 
i'm not usally a persone than make controversy , but I started in a province far from Atlantis 1 territory and closed in other 2 direction (the lake to west and river to south with only a direction for my expansion and of course I have already met another opponent that he closed me...

WraithLord September 29th, 2009 01:21 PM
Re: Sharivar - LA game 4 bussy ppl [12/12, Accepting pretenders]
 
viccio, I'm sorry to hear that. Random starting pos. is part of the luck element in this game that I wanted to keep. If it's any consolation to you I also got a bad tarting position, not as bad as yours, but still quite bad IMHO.

Guys, I'd be taking a short vacation on Oct 1st so maybe I'll need to add 24h extension.

Aristander September 30th, 2009 09:12 AM
Re: Sharivar - LA game 4 bussy ppl [12/12, Accepting pretenders]
 
Rats I staled. I just need to adjust to the time difference. However, I for one did get a nice starting position.

Cheers

Aristander

WraithLord October 4th, 2009 06:04 AM
Re: Sharivar - LA game 4 bussy ppl [12/12, Accepting pretenders]
 
We're now on 48h schedule.

rdonj October 4th, 2009 02:08 PM
Re: Sharivar - LA game 4 bussy ppl [12/12, Accepting pretenders]
 
Ah, glorious. I'll try not to use it every turn though.

Aethyr October 16th, 2009 05:39 AM
Re: Sharivar - LA game 4 bussy ppl [12/12, Accepting pretenders]
 
Hail Lord of Gath:

The time has come to cancel our NAP. Orders will be given on turn 24. I would say "good luck", but I'm the one who will probally need it most. :)

Festin October 16th, 2009 02:05 PM
Re: Sharivar - LA game 4 bussy ppl [12/12, Accepting pretenders]
 
Aww, curse you Bogus!

rdonj October 16th, 2009 03:24 PM
Re: Sharivar - LA game 4 bussy ppl [12/12, Accepting pretenders]
 
Lol. Gotta love him. He has this habit of showing up exactly where he's least wanted.

WraithLord October 21st, 2009 03:25 PM
Re: Sharivar - LA game 4 bussy ppl [12/12, Accepting pretenders]
 
For some strange reason the server refuses to accept my turn file. I've sent it three times already and didn't get the ack. nor does it appear the my turn was received in game status page.

I've turned off quick host while this issue persists.
Anyone experience similar problems?

ghoul31 October 21st, 2009 03:46 PM
Re: Sharivar - LA game 4 bussy ppl [12/12, Accepting pretenders]
 
thats because llamabeast unplugged the llamaserver. look at his post

WraithLord October 21st, 2009 03:49 PM
Re: Sharivar - LA game 4 bussy ppl [12/12, Accepting pretenders]
 
oh, that explains it. May I ask where is that post?

Calahan October 21st, 2009 03:54 PM
Re: Sharivar - LA game 4 bussy ppl [12/12, Accepting pretenders]
 
Here you go WL

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=44190

WraithLord October 21st, 2009 03:58 PM
Re: Sharivar - LA game 4 bussy ppl [12/12, Accepting pretenders]
 
Thank you!

I asked for an extension to our game so that the following won't stale:
Atlantis Waiting for 2h file
Caelum Waiting for 2h file
Chelms Waiting for 2h file
Ermor Waiting for 2h file
Gath Waiting for 2h file
Jomon Waiting for 2h file
Midgard Waiting for 2h file
Pangaea Waiting for 2h file

Worst case we'll rollback. With most players staling it kinda makes sense.

rdonj October 21st, 2009 05:34 PM
Re: Sharivar - LA game 4 bussy ppl [12/12, Accepting pretenders]
 
Jomon here. I've sent in my turn. And I actually just got turn received messages from the server. But it is still not showing on the llamaserver page. So I guess once we're sure the llamaserver is up and running I'll send my turn in again.

Aethyr October 22nd, 2009 03:47 AM
Re: Sharivar - LA game 4 bussy ppl [12/12, Accepting pretenders]
 
Yikes. I will resend my turn in a bit. Thanks

WraithLord October 22nd, 2009 08:18 AM
Re: Sharivar - LA game 4 bussy ppl [12/12, Accepting pretenders]
 
Yes, I reccomend to resend and will do so myself this evening.
After that I'll turn quick host back again. If anyone needs more time plz inform me.

WraithLord October 22nd, 2009 04:52 PM
Re: Sharivar - LA game 4 bussy ppl [12/12, Accepting pretenders]
 
server still doesn't seem to be working well.
At some time I got bombarded by mails from the server. Then I resent my turn and got no ack mail. In addition I gave a 24h extension and turned off quick host but the server page doesn't show any of this to be applied.

I hope the server gets fixed and that nobody stales.

Aethyr October 23rd, 2009 05:42 AM
Re: Sharivar - LA game 4 bussy ppl [12/12, Accepting pretenders]
 
OK--I've resent my turn again.

WraithLord October 23rd, 2009 05:59 AM
Re: Sharivar - LA game 4 bussy ppl [12/12, Accepting pretenders]
 
Guys I suggest you all resend your turns. Just in case...
All turns are in but I've set the game to host tomorrow so you all have enough time to resend.

rdonj October 23rd, 2009 06:01 AM
Re: Sharivar - LA game 4 bussy ppl [12/12, Accepting pretenders]
 
Done.

Dimaz October 23rd, 2009 07:44 AM
Re: Sharivar - LA game 4 bussy ppl [12/12, Accepting pretenders]
 
Me too.

Festin October 27th, 2009 09:06 AM
Re: Sharivar - LA game 4 bussy ppl [12/12, Accepting pretenders]
 
Any nations interested in purchasing fire gems, please contact Tien Chi.

rdonj November 4th, 2009 07:12 AM
Re: Sharivar - LA game 4 bussy ppl [12/12, Accepting pretenders]
 
Ah man, I thought I'd sent that turn in. That could have been pretty terrible for me (but luckily wasn't).

Trumanator November 13th, 2009 03:41 PM
Re: Sharivar - LA game 4 bussy ppl [12/12, Accepting pretenders]
 
I am going to be busy with ROTC essentially all this weekend, with absolutely no internet access. If I could have a delay till Monday that would be great.

WraithLord November 13th, 2009 05:46 PM
Re: Sharivar - LA game 4 bussy ppl [12/12, Accepting pretenders]
 
I don't think that should be a problem. You're set.

Trumanator November 19th, 2009 09:00 PM
Re: Sharivar - LA game 4 bussy ppl [12/12, Accepting pretenders]
 
Okay, I've been hanging around with only one prov & fortress for some time now, hoping to give one more grand last stand. Since this hasn't materialized, I am going to set AI. I haven't even done anything for the last 6 turns or so.

Dimaz November 24th, 2009 02:25 AM
Re: Sharivar - LA game 4 bussy ppl, running
 
Ermor decided to end our NAP and attack me soon. I'll still be busy with Midgard at that time. So I invite everyone to help me fight Ermor, since if I fight alone he will surely win and then no one will be able to stop him. Ermor is nasty opponent as it is, but with highly skilled player he can be devastating. If you think you can relax and eat popcorn while we fight, you are very wrong.

Kuritza November 24th, 2009 09:03 AM
Re: Sharivar - LA game 4 bussy ppl, running
 
Ha ha ha. You will be very lucky if somebody doesn't decide to attack YOU while you try to fight Ermor.

P.S.

AaaaaaAaaaAHahaAHAHAAhahahaAHAHA! ))))))

rdonj November 24th, 2009 09:52 AM
Re: Sharivar - LA game 4 bussy ppl, running
 
Eh, they are both more or less dominating this game. Whichever one of them doesn't go down is probably going to win. In an ideal situation, war would be declared on both of them while they're killing each other and the survivors of that would then duke it out amongst themselves to see who won. Of course, the winner would inevitably be either the person who takes most of gath's land or the person who sits back quietly observing the proceedings while everyone else gets mashed up.

That's probably not happening in this game though since there are not very many powerful nations bordering the two of them.

Dimaz November 24th, 2009 10:09 AM
Re: Sharivar - LA game 4 bussy ppl, running
 
Well.
Let's just skip time-consuming boring part and declare Ermor the winner, then.


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