Re: Doomsdays 3 - Apo settings game - Send in pretenders
 

It sounds like we should either fix R'lyeh or not include the nation in the game. I've no complaints if we start over. I vote for B.

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The magisters and wardens of Avalon believe very strongly in fair play, and it is our position that it would be unfair to force a man to play out an unfun game.

We vote B.

Restart with the mods listed in the original post (most of the Libra compilation - not all). R'lyeh was not originally excluded, so if he wants to play them, let him. If he wants to switch, OK. :up:

Does anyone know if UWGIM EA affects any other LA nations before we go down that road?

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I go for B,

assuming we will exclude that particular mod nerffing R'lyeh from what it is ment to be.

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I'm the creator of the UWGIM mod and just noted this thread. The mod in the LIBRA complimation is is "EA UWGIM", which really only works for EA games. Sorry about the confusion, but I really *had* to build the mod that way because of in-built modding limitations.

UWGIM is not meant to do any national changes to LA R'lyeh (since the nation is playable as it is, unlike other UW nations). But there are some other changes Anaconda might be intrested in (like more balanced income from UW sites and a small chance for UW indy mages). Land nations might be relived to find the kelp castle site to be uncommon,

However, this thing is extremely easy to fix. Take the Libra mod, remove the part about UWGIM and replace it with "UWGIM global" version, which does not make any national changes. I'd make the mod myself, but I'm currently quite busy, since I'm visiting my sister and I won't back at my computer until sunday.

If you just want to ditch UWGIM, you can just upload the mods singularly without the complimation. There should not be any clashes between the mods (usually complimation mods are made just to avoid confusion with having to enable several mods at once).

Re: Doomsdays 3 - Apo settings game - Send in pretenders
 

Thanks, Burnsaber!

That leaves us with another possibility - use the global UWGIM mod.

I guess that would be the best way of handling this situation.

Re: Doomsdays 3 - Apo settings game - Send in pretenders
 

You know, if we're restarting, I think I'll switch to Atlantis. Because those silly amphibian guys are fun! :p

Re: Doomsdays 3 - Apo settings game - Send in pretenders
 

New Game is up. I guess I'll just let the old game run on for those who are interested.

Re: Doomsdays 3 - Apo settings game - Send in pretenders
 

Name of the new game, where I can send my pretender?

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Doomsday4

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Uploaded. As Atlantis, as I said I would. Silly amphibian gemps on the ground! :p

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Other people joining?

Let's get this game going!

By the way, how I switch my older game's nation on AI?

Re: Doomsdays 3 - Apo settings game - Send in pretenders
 

Ossa, if doomsdays3 keeps running, I will go AI also. It's too similar and I will get confused. Can we start doomsday4 and kill the other?

Re: Doomsdays 3 - Apo settings game - Send in pretenders
 

Actually, there were 7 players in DD3, so I guess we're actually waiting for the last guy to throw in his Pretender rather than waiting for new ones.

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Anaconda, if you go into game options when you open the current turn, there will be an option there to set yourself to AI. It'll ask you to cofirm. Then just save the turn and send it in to Llamaserver.

I've done the same. I'm already in two other games, no time for a fourth. :p

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Yep, I'd suggest that too - Doomsday3 will just continue on a fun basis, if you dont want to play just set yourself to ai;)

Doomsday 4 started right now.

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Oh yeah, if anyone else runs into the same "problem" I did (the game whining about the lack of cross path combat spells mod, even if you know you aren't lacking it), just rename CPCS.dm to CPCS0.8.dm. Because that's the newest one out, it ought to be the same. :p

Really weird that the official downloadables are called CPCS.dm while Llamaserver requires that very specific different name for it.

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I need two days to come up with next incoming turn. I am sorry. Can we postpone it?

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No problem. Are 48h enough?

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Are you able to use the CPCS spells? I did this to get it working, but now I don't see the spells. I hope I just did something wrong. :re:

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Uh, considering that we're so early in the game (and in one with very difficult research, no less), no, I can't use them in combat. But I can see them just fine in the research window. Which would mean that they are usable in this game one would think.

On the other hand, I forgot to mention that I left the original CPCS file in the mod directory as well. It'd make pretty little sense that it would have an effect on anything, but who knows!

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OK, so I now have identical files in the mod directory named CPCS.dm & CPCS0.8.dm. I was thinking of the priest spells though. Is Holy War enabled? Maybe it's those spells I'm missing.

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Oh, you're right! Holy War ends up disabled when I play my turn and then go to the main menu. I think that's actually it. I never really paid any attention to the stuff it gives you so I didn't really notice. We aren't going to restart because Holy War is missing, are we? Please tell me we aren't. :(

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As long as I'm not the only one without Holy War enabled, let's just move on. :smirk:

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You know... Knowing how friggin HUGE the map is for 6 people (since R'lyeh quit early on), I'm going on the record right now to say that whoever wins this game isn't eligible for a Victorious Nations entry (though probably unless it's one of the unlucky ones who got stuck with a bunch of other guys or otherwise stunted, since those guys have some serious obstacles in their way), and if the winner even tries to get into it, I'm not gonna have any of it.

274 province map for 7 (well, 6) people? We didn't even play on that large maps with 14 (which was max number of nations) way back in Dominions 1! :p Should've actually thought about it before we started, to be honest. It just never really occurred to me until we had played a few turns. I can tell that this game's gonna be funny, albeit very tedious.

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Thats not a problem with me;)

I'd just prefer it for the sake of fairness if Atlantis and me would stop taking provinces right now as noone went to war yet anyway - we should let the others take a few more lands to make things more interesting.

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Yeah, this is prettymuch insanity right now. How many provinces do you have Ossa, 80?

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Ossa, sure, that'd work for you cuz you have like 11 more provinces than I do as it is (I checked from the scores thing in Llamaserver, it's 70), and you're pulling a ton more research than I am (over by 400 on me in just a turn after you got over me?). :mad: YOU stop taking provinces and I'll stop taking provinces when I match your number or the provinces run out! If you stopped right now I'd probably match you in province number in a few turns!

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Were you feeling generous yesterday Ossa? I'm not yet a charity case, or was that intended for someone else?

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Or he could be sending out gems/gold because he doesn't know where to stick it all. :p After all, he's getting more of both than I am, and my income in both is pretty high as well.

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I just though you could use the money better - it'll be more interesting in the long run and I'd lay a foundation for future cooperation that way;)

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And as expected, Marignon did not stop taking provinces, so the province competition is still on. Not that the Angakut expected anything else, since we have noticed a number of provinces deep behind the borders of Marignon which were still untaken by them by the time they made the "proposition", and they still had felt the urge to spread outwards.

So, had we stopped taking provinces, it would have only made the already largest nation in the world even larger while leaving us behind even further in the race for provinces. Obviously that would have been a mistake.

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Umm, are we going to need replacements for Patala and Tien Chi? They seem to be spiraling into constant stales with no mention of as to why they are doing so.

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That would mean approx. 117 provinces each, right? :rock:

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Heh, no, thank God. :p Not that I'd be going after them anyway. Patala and Tien Chi are the smallest nations with their 20 and 22 provinces. What I'd hope is either some kind of an explanation for their stales (and/)or replacements (as in substitute players) as soon as possible.

Personally I really don't like it when people just quit playing with no explanation.

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Hmm.... i'll put the hosting interval to 48h for now... if it's just a matter of hours (which I hope is the case for TC at least) that should work it out.

Patala just sent in his turn btw;)

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... Patala didn't send his turn in. He made his nation go AI. :doh:

So we can't even get him a replacement. Awesome.

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Ossa, did you have any word from Firewalker? :mad:

I was joking before. This is not a good thing. Seriously.

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Personally I think we should seriously start over. We're down to five people this early with no wars on a super massive map and insane resources and two of us control over half of the map. That's not good fun for anyone.

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I concur... we should start this over.

I should probably open a new threat to attract new people though.

Re: Doomsdays 3 - Apo settings game - Send in pretenders
 

yeah, this game is just silly at this point. Even though I just got the Ultimate Gateway as Gath :(

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OK lets hear from bgfu, but opening it up again and restarting is probably best. Get more people or a smaller map.

If we restart, I will continue to try and make a go of it with Man, but a different build this time. It would be bad if I refused to learn anything, right? :)

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Setting up a new thread and getting more people would be good since two have dropped without a word. With just five people we could just as well do a blitz over TCP/IP.

And preliminarily I'd like to switch to LA R'lyeh, because... Well, they start from the water! :p And the original one kinda left.

EDIT: On that note, Ossa, you might wanna kill Doomsdays3, it's running on no other than R'lyeh, heh.

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So, uh, how long are we going to keep this game running as we wait for Bgifu to respond? :confused: I think there should be some kind of a dead line for his response because most players have already agreed to restart, or something.

Since this game's not getting any less ridiculous by us playing more turns after basically already having decided to restart. :p

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Agreed

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With 300% Gold/Res/Supply,TienChi can't defend the Gath's attack.I'm sorry.I quit.

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OK, so there's the last answer. Restart the game! :p

And meh, when I posted in your thread Bgifu, I was hoping you'd see it the moment I posted it (cuz you had posted just a few mins before) so I could actually get rid of it. Now it's too late. :( Sorry about that.

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I am sorry.I just sent the turn files and didn't know what happened until u posted in my thread.

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Hehe, that's not a problem.

But what IS a problem is that we're still sending in turns to a game that we've decided to restart, and everyone's more or less going with it. Why's that? :confused:

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Not everyone. I'm redesigning my pretender and preparing to dominate in DD5! :)