Re: Scruntlefut - 2v2v2v2 team game - Starting - Accepting Pretenders
 

Ogres was running into the same problem. If I have to change all the nation numbers for the mod and map (to replace vanilla MA nations) I will, but it would probably be better as an overall llamaserver fix. Surely it renders singleage games impossible also?

Re: Scruntlefut - 2v2v2v2 team game - Starting - Accepting Pretenders
 

What I'm going to do is recreate the game as Scruntlefut2 and set it to multi-age rather than middle age. That should work fine with the current combined mod if I understand this problem correctly.

You'll have to resubmit pretenders of course. I'll let you know when I've created the game and I'll delete the old one too.

Re: Scruntlefut - 2v2v2v2 team game - Starting - Accepting Pretenders
 

Ok, please resubmit your pretenders to the following game name (case sensitive):

Scruntlefut2

Re: Scruntlefut2 - 2v2v2v2 team game - Fixed - Resubmit pretenders!
 

Where can I find our map?

EDIT- Never mind just had to re-name it.

EDIT- And now what's with all these cheating/reduce messages???

Re: Scruntlefut2 - 2v2v2v2 team game - Fixed - Resubmit pretenders!
 

I'm not receiving my turn file. Tried to resend it, still nothing.

Re: Scruntlefut2 - 2v2v2v2 team game - Fixed - Resubmit pretenders!
 

I'll take a look at this when I get home.

I'm confused as to why you'd have to rename the map.

Re: Scruntlefut2 - 2v2v2v2 team game - Fixed - Resubmit pretenders!
 

The game wanted threelake, it was named scruntletthreelake, or whatever.

Re: Scruntlefut2 - 2v2v2v2 team game - Fixed - Resubmit pretenders!
 

I actually have the same problem as Amonchakad.

Re: Scruntlefut2 - 2v2v2v2 team game - Fixed - Resubmit pretenders!
 

It's most likely a problem with mod nations.

Re: Scruntlefut2 - 2v2v2v2 team game - Fixed - Resubmit pretenders!
 

The game was set up to use the map "NI_Scruntlefut_Threelake" with the filename being "Scruntlefut_Threelake" so if it's asking for anything else that's a worrying error in and of itself. Other than the "Threelake.tga" of course, which you need to have.

Is anyone else having this problem with the map?

I definitely selected the combined mod and it appears as such on the llamaserver, but Jurri thinks the game itself may not be using the combined mod, which would lead to the errors we're seeing.

There's nothing wrong with the combined mod or the map, so it must be the way llamaserver is handling it. I'm confused as to why this problem is happening because plenty of mod nation games have run on llamaserver before, even using combined mods.

Re: Scruntlefut2 - 2v2v2v2 team game - Fixed - Resubmit pretenders!
 

Ok, Jurri and I have gotten to the bottom of this problem and tested the solution.

Here's what you guys have to do.

1. Rename the file "Scruntlefut Combined Mod.dm" to "scruntlefut.dm"
2. Redo you pretender exactly as before, with this mod enabled (it obviously looks exactly the same as the previous mod) You may wish to clear the old pretender out of the newlords folder before doing this to avoid confusion.
3. Submit your new pretender to the game with this exact name: "Scruntlefut3"

That should all work fine.

Re: Scruntlefut2 - 2v2v2v2 team game - Fixed - Resubmit pretenders!
 

If this happens a few more times this could become a damn legend..heh

Re: Scruntlefut2 - 2v2v2v2 team game - Fixed - Resubmit pretenders!
 

Pretty sure all the bugs are fixed now. It's just llamaserver doesn't like spaces in anything. I thought it only mattered for game names.

Re: Scruntlefut2 - 2v2v2v2 team game - Fixed - Resubmit pretenders!
 

Just waiting for Arcoscephale now!

Everything seems to be absolutely fine so far, so I'm confident the game will run smoothly.

Re: Scruntlefut2 - 2v2v2v2 team game - Fixed - Resubmit pretenders!
 

*brrrt* *fzzt*

Home control to Arcoscephale, Home control to Arcoscephale.
Do you hear us, Arcoscephale?
Requesting pretender intel, send to codename: Llama.

End of message.

*click*

Re: Scruntlefut2 - 2v2v2v2 team game - Fixed - Resubmit pretenders!
 

Spaces in filenames are the biggest bane of the llamaserver. It has code to refuse to accept files with spaces in, which works when I test it, but apparently not for anyone else. I really should sit down and fix it one day, but the thing is I don't really ever sit down and concentrate at a computer at home before about 11pm these days, at which point I want to read the news and go to bed. The non-computer use is because I have put my computer in the lounge, which is generally full of distracting housemates.

Re: Scruntlefut2 - 2v2v2v2 team game - Fixed - Resubmit pretenders!
 

Disaster!

Good for one's social life, however. I didn't even have a computer through university.

Re: Scruntlefut2 - 2v2v2v2 team game - Fixed - Resubmit pretenders!
 

Better for one's grades really..

Re: Scruntlefut2 - 2v2v2v2 team game - Fixed - Resubmit pretenders!
 

Unless you do all your work on the computer.

Re: Scruntlefut2 - 2v2v2v2 team game - Fixed - Resubmit pretenders!
 

Uh,.. not to be a dick or anything, because maybe this is just bad luck, but snalltrippin, are you planning on taking a province?

Re: Scruntlefut2 - 2v2v2v2 team game - Fixed - Resubmit pretenders!
 

Just a reminder for anyone using mercs -cough-Dwarfs-cough- that mercs are not allowed.

Re: Scruntlefut2 - 2v2v2v2 team game - Running
 

Yeah this makes me especially sad as I've had horrible luck at expanding and the Dwarves are already on me..

Re: Scruntlefut2 - 2v2v2v2 team game - Running
 

No I'm not!

Re: Scruntlefut2 - 2v2v2v2 team game - Running
 

I don't think they actually used the mercs to expand, though I could be wrong. I think they were spotted just after they were hired.

Re: Scruntlefut2 - 2v2v2v2 team game - Running
 

Yeah, the mercs never did anything but waste my gold :(

On a related note, nice job Amonchakad on finding the proper counter to a Runeguard rush!

Re: Scruntlefut2 - 2v2v2v2 team game - Running
 

Do what? I only gathered my few scattered troops into a single army and threw them on my capital; I fear that any semblance of strategy was purely coincidental:D

Re: Scruntlefut2 - 2v2v2v2 team game - Running
 

Wops! Apologies for staling the last turn, the last few days were really busy for me.
On the other side, I'm almost done for, I fear, as hordes of annoying sociopathic and greedy midgets- I mean, as the mighty armies of the Dwarven Kingdom lay siege to my capital!

Re: Scruntlefut2 - 2v2v2v2 team game - Running
 

Yeah, I messed up my start horribly and will die...doing better in my other game anyway.

Re: Scruntlefut2 - 2v2v2v2 team game - Running
 

Poor righteous skaven, ever persecuted by the numberless tunneling dwarfs. Theirs is a doomed and sombre race.

Re: Scruntlefut2 - 2v2v2v2 team game - Running
 

...how are the dwarves killing everyone? I am now officially against moded races.

Re: Scruntlefut2 - 2v2v2v2 team game - Running
 

I think the main reason is just that I took Prod-3 and Skaven took Sloth-2.

Re: Scruntlefut2 - 2v2v2v2 team game - Running
 

Sloth is perfectly fine for skaven, though prod has its own advantages. Skaven are just generally a very difficult race, and having a horribly gimped teammate doesn't really help when fighting an early game powerhouse like the dwarfs.

Re: Scruntlefut2 - 2v2v2v2 team game - Running
 

They aren't, they're just beating your team up. Haven't done a thing to the other two teams.

I also don't think you're really in a position to judge, since literally any nation would have beaten you down, simply based on your expansion. Even MA Oceania could have walked amphibious troops over and left you on 0 provinces. You just need to have faster expansion than you did, in MP games.

Re: Scruntlefut2 - 2v2v2v2 team game - Running
 

Yeah, I'm frankly terrified of your team Sombre.

In related news, what on earth was going on with that Marble Oracle in the Arena battle? More specifically, how did it have 322 hitpoints, when its base is 85? Just his dom shouldn't get anywhere near that, right?

Re: Scruntlefut2 - 2v2v2v2 team game - Running
 

He did get gift of health up. Didn't realize that spell was so powerful.

Re: Scruntlefut2 - 2v2v2v2 team game - Running
 

oh now that's just diabolical. Ench-5 gives you both Marble Oracles and Gift of Health? That and Const-4 are all you really need for endgame as Agartha, apparently.

Re: Scruntlefut2 - 2v2v2v2 team game - Running
 

Yeah, I'm doing fine in my other game- just only played this race once before in SP. And I lost my first 2x armies to independents.

Re: Scruntlefut2 - 2v2v2v2 team game - Running
 

Sorry for the delays, I've been delirious with a high fever the past 40 hours or so. Got my wife to postpone hosting. I should be fine to take a turn today.

Re: Scruntlefut2 - 2v2v2v2 team game - Running
 

I see Skaven have gone AI.

Will they ever survive past early game? They're 0 for 5 currently.

Re: Scruntlefut2 - 2v2v2v2 team game - Running
 

They did reasonably well in Dramatica. Top 3 nation until Baalz just won the game with insane bloodsaccing.

But, IMHO, they could a small boost to beef up their early game a bit. Having a poor early game is a bit of a "Mark of Doom" in MP game. See Maverni for a example what happens to a nation when it is widely know that it has poor early game.

Re: Scruntlefut2 - 2v2v2v2 team game - Running
 

Hey! I survived all the way to the end in Sign!

Re: Scruntlefut2 - 2v2v2v2 team game - Running
 

Yep, I set myself AI after my capital was taken and I had 1 province left. I must admit that I hadn't a very good idea of what I was doing - I actually found the Skaven a very hard race to understand.

Re: Scruntlefut2 - 2v2v2v2 team game - Running
 

Only problem with that is the AI recruited mercs. Which is a little bit unfair on the dwarfs.

Naughty cheating AI. Didn't it read the game rules?

Re: Scruntlefut2 - 2v2v2v2 team game - Running
 

God only knows how I haven't been crushed yet. But we all know my monkey people never give up!! I mean, Planet of the APES, hello!

Re: Scruntlefut2 - 2v2v2v2 team game - Running
 

.... you're shinuyama.

wtf?

Re: Scruntlefut2 - 2v2v2v2 team game - Running
 

Oh yeah, goblin people. Close enough.

Re: Scruntlefut2 - 2v2v2v2 team game - Running
 

I'm just glad you checked out their recruitment options before you submitted a pretender and the game started ;P

Re: Scruntlefut2 - 2v2v2v2 team game - Running
 

Well these are my first multi, and I haven't even played 3.0 much- played 2.0 a lot back in the day. So I'm just having fun. My other game I'm doing much better anyway, even if not close to a well oiled machine. I don't even remember which branch I need for the spell to mess with arrow fire in battles...sad.

Re: Scruntlefut2 - 2v2v2v2 team game - Running
 

Can we extend the clock to 36 hours? I am not sure how long I can keep fending off the models, adult film stars, and actresses who want to date me in order to get my turns in on time.

Re: Scruntlefut2 - 2v2v2v2 team game - Running
 

Well, just be sure they aren't Queens! Of course that assumes you mind a bit of masculinity in your "girlfriends". You should date fluffers. I hear they are excellent conversationalists.