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Corvus May 1st, 2010 02:17 PM

Re: Nub Bash 2010 - Late Age - Recruiting
 
As legolasjrt has not contacted me about whether or not they're fine with no PBEM, I am assuming they've dropped, luckily with Herr, we still have ten players. I am starting the countdown now. The game will start tomorrow, anyone who wants in had better post in here quick. We will be using the 4up OGRE map, ans the endgame diversity mod along with CBM 1.6

ano May 1st, 2010 03:23 PM

Re: Nub Bash 2010 - Late Age - Recruiting
 
Corvus
It would probably be a good idea if your first post contained a link to the map image file, not only .map files

update:
Just looked at the map here and was totally shocked.
Quote:

462 provinces, 416 of these are land and 46 are under water.
Guys, are you joking? Considering we have 9 land(or semi-land) players, it means 47 provinces per player. It means this game will last forever and thus is unacceptable at least for me (and, I'm pretty sure, for the most of you if you think about it). I tend to play on Alexander which is a pretty balanced map but even its 246 land provinces is extremely much for 9 land players.
If this map and the ages-lasting game is the final choice, I resign. Sorry.

Corvus May 1st, 2010 04:28 PM

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I thought it was rather large, but its what people voted for. And I would hate to have to put my foot down and ignore the players votes... So, would anyone like to change their votes? People would probably just go AI.... yeah we're using Cradle. Unless you can manage to get 3 votes for a different map by tomorrow.

Verjigorm May 1st, 2010 04:37 PM

Re: Nub Bash 2010 - Late Age - Recruiting
 
Cradle of Dominion works. It's about the right size. I would vote for that. It's also attractive and well-trod so no need to "fix" anything.

ano May 1st, 2010 04:43 PM

Re: Nub Bash 2010 - Late Age - Recruiting
 
Yes, it is a fine map, although still pretty unbalanced. If you happen to start at the eastern all-swamp region, it's almost definitely game over. So, if people want, we may hand-place the starts to make it a bit more balanced and fun to play. If not, so be it.
Also, there're still provinces with only two neighbors, namely 1,2, 216 and more. Probably, hand-placing the starts might be a good idea

Herr Heimlich May 1st, 2010 09:33 PM

Re: Nub Bash 2010 - Late Age - Recruiting
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Verjigorm (Post 743147)
Cradle of Dominion works. It's about the right size. I would vote for that. It's also attractive and well-trod so no need to "fix" anything.

I´d agree with him.

iamofage May 1st, 2010 10:27 PM

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I vote for Cradle of Dom. Players won't start in any swamp provinces for cradle, and there's prevention system which prevents you to start with less than 3 or 4 neighbers in most of those maps that came with the game.

Kupiko May 2nd, 2010 07:54 AM

Re: Nub Bash 2010 - Late Age - Recruiting
 
I vote for cradle too.

Verjigorm May 2nd, 2010 10:25 AM

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If we are to start the uploading of pretenders today, we need a port number please.

Septimius Severus May 2nd, 2010 11:29 AM

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Ogre is a nice looking map. But it is probably best with a larger number of players. For new players, one of the game included maps such as cradle (may have the benefits of not needing to be downloaded) maybe be better.

If Ogre is used with smaller number of players, you'd probably want to institute VPs either static or accumulation method, and a VP victory condition to prevent the game from running on forever. Accumulation method can provide even greater control of game length so might be more useful with this map.

Not to say that large numbers of provinces per player are not fine for some players who may like it. Or for games with an RPG/Scenario element, where there are other goals, victory conditions, and other things going on.

Ballbarian May 2nd, 2010 11:37 AM

Re: Nub Bash 2010 - Late Age - Recruiting
 
Ogre is really only appropriate for very large games (21 land & 3 water players).

Verjigorm May 2nd, 2010 12:12 PM

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In addition to the Cradle map vote, I would also be in favor of a VP condition. Kill all will generally end in a stalemate or capitulation. No one wants to conquer 100 well-defended provinces from a dude with a gem income in the 100s.

ano May 2nd, 2010 02:50 PM

Re: Nub Bash 2010 - Late Age - Recruiting
 
I'm sorry but as this game didn't start, I took over a position of turn-90 Pythium which requires a tremendous amount of time, so, most probably, I have to skip this game. Please, don't count on me. It will be clearer in the nearest days if I'm able to maintain everything but probably not.

Corvus May 2nd, 2010 04:56 PM

Re: Nub Bash 2010 - Late Age - Recruiting
 
oi vey impatient people, I can't log on first thing in the morning. And the game is going up as soon as he puts it up and sends me the port.

ano May 2nd, 2010 05:26 PM

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I understand, Corvus. I just have had free time and could not resist an attraction of looking at lategame Pythium that needed a sub. And although it is rather complex I decided to take over.
I actually have developed pretender and strategy as Agartha so if the game doesn't start Tuesday evening, I might as well jump in if there's still place. Sorry once again for inconvenience.

Pablomatic May 2nd, 2010 05:28 PM

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Since there are concerns with the Ogre map, I vote for Cradle of Dominions.

iamofage May 2nd, 2010 06:03 PM

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Is End Game Diversity mod going to be on too?

Corvus May 2nd, 2010 06:28 PM

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Yes.

Corvus May 2nd, 2010 09:14 PM

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game.dom3minions.com
port 12341

I think the double post is forgivable?

iamofage May 2nd, 2010 10:19 PM

Re: Nub Bash 2010 - Late Age - Starting
 
I usually edit unless the post is needed to keep record, so we can start upload our pretenders now?

Corvus May 2nd, 2010 10:43 PM

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Yep.

Kupiko May 3rd, 2010 07:28 PM

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Doesn't seem to work for me..How come when i connect to server and i'm to choose nation to play..marignon is not there for me? I have pretender done.

Verjigorm May 3rd, 2010 07:59 PM

Re: Nub Bash 2010 - Late Age - Starting
 
I uploaded my pretender last night, but I cannot seem to connect this evening...

Server down?

Corvus May 3rd, 2010 09:34 PM

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Someone hit start before everyone uploaded pretenders -_- The servers being rolled back so I think people will have to re-upload pretenders. People who downloaded a turn file need to delete those files on their machine. And when I find out which nation rus stands for, you're getting a smack on the wrist for hitting start. That smack on the wrist being MY WRATH INGAME BWAHAHA.

Corvus May 3rd, 2010 10:21 PM

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Due to my Edit button not being there, I'll have to double post. Server is back up, and only Mictlan and Pythium will have to re-upload their gods. Now, ano, are you in or not? Need an answer whether to wait for you.

Also, Kupiko, what exactly is the problem? Are you clicking on Marignon in the list and nothing happens? Are you not able to connect?

Gandalf Parker May 3rd, 2010 10:58 PM

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I think he tried to get in after it started without him.

Verjigorm May 4th, 2010 12:16 AM

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I was politely waiting for everyone to join and let the admin start it... I'll re-upload...

Herr Heimlich May 4th, 2010 01:55 AM

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That was...strange. Well, Pretender reuploaded.

Kupiko May 4th, 2010 05:52 AM

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Yeah that was the problem. The game started before i uploaded my pretender. It's ok now :)

ano May 4th, 2010 07:52 AM

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Quote:

Now, ano, are you in or not?
No, I'm not in, sorry.
Good luck for everybody and have fun

Pablomatic May 4th, 2010 10:37 AM

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I was one who blundered on and hit "start." I simply didn't know better.

I will now go in and delete the 2H file. Then re-upload my pretender, and not hit start.

My apologies, but it was an honest mistake.

Pablomatic May 4th, 2010 10:40 AM

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And now when I did that, the screen still says I have played my turn, even though all I did was accept Pythium as my nation.

What am I doing wrong?

Gandalf Parker May 4th, 2010 11:04 AM

Re: Nub Bash 2010 - Late Age - Starting
 
Dont press the button to start the game. Let Corvus do that when he has all the people he wants in it.

After uploading your pretender you might have to scroll down abit to see the disconnect button. You just want to disconnect.

Herr Heimlich May 4th, 2010 11:46 AM

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When connecting to see wether the game has started, I get a rather strange phenomenon. First of all, I thought we were supposed to be 10 players, so why si the game started with only 9 nations? Second, when I then select Mictlan, he changes the screen to the "receiving turn"-screen, though the bar never fills and instead just start to flash, with the normal turn screen inbetween flashing trough. If fast enough, I can click exit, but never play my turn, as I then get "error ret turn file". What the h...?

Gandalf Parker May 4th, 2010 11:59 AM

Re: Nub Bash 2010 - Late Age - Starting
 
My bad. Forgot to delete the fatherland file before restarting the game. Try now

Herr Heimlich May 4th, 2010 12:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gandalf Parker (Post 744011)
My bad. Forgot to delete the fatherland file before restarting the game. Try now

After connecting I return to the Choose a nation for your pretender-screen with "StartGame/Disconnect" at the bottom. I suppose we are waiting thus for number 10?

Gandalf Parker May 4th, 2010 12:27 PM

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yes. Well actually its not set to start on a set number of joiners like some games. Its waiting for Corvus to start it (unless he tells me he wants it setup for something else)

Verjigorm May 4th, 2010 01:34 PM

Re: Nub Bash 2010 - Late Age - Starting
 
Looks like we're just waiting on Agartha to upload pretender then?

Corvus May 4th, 2010 02:44 PM

Re: Nub Bash 2010 - Late Age - Starting
 
Ano has stated they got involved in another game and probably won't be able to play, I'm gonna start without them.

Game started.

Pablomatic May 4th, 2010 07:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Corvus (Post 744068)
Ano has stated they got involved in another game and probably won't be able to play, I'm gonna start without them.

Game started.

Since you say "game started" I went in and played my turn. FYI

Verjigorm May 8th, 2010 10:51 AM

Re: Nub Bash 2010 - Late Age - Started
 
Marignon staled turn 4... and appears to have staled for the last 2 turns (3 and 4).

Pablomatic May 8th, 2010 11:42 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Verjigorm (Post 744938)
Marignon staled turn 4... and appears to have staled for the last 2 turns (3 and 4).

I vote we delay until Marignon gets in or we get a sub.

Verjigorm May 8th, 2010 11:57 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pablomatic (Post 744948)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Verjigorm (Post 744938)
Marignon staled turn 4... and appears to have staled for the last 2 turns (3 and 4).

I vote we delay until Marignon gets in or we get a sub.

Agreed.

Kupiko May 8th, 2010 12:52 PM

Re: Nub Bash 2010 - Late Age - Started
 
Well sorry i had trouble there with access to internet. Hope it's sorted now..Anyway i'm not getting email notifications although i've sent 2 Pms to Gandalf already. It might cause some stales, cause i tend to forget when should be the turn time :( I am not so often checking.

Corvus May 8th, 2010 02:53 PM

Re: Nub Bash 2010 - Late Age - Started
 
I'll send him a PM and ask whats what.

Kupiko May 11th, 2010 12:53 PM

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Thanks corvus he replied and it got sorted. My notifications were sent to spam and so i didn't see them.

The problem now is that my internet access problem just got more serious and i might have to drop. I'll post asking if someone would like to take over.
I apologise for the trouble.

Verjigorm May 15th, 2010 05:09 PM

Re: Nub Bash 2010 - Late Age - Started
 
Marignon looks stale for 1-2 turns. He has missed a few early turns and will therefore be no more than a free gem site for the nearest opponent. We need to either (a) pause and replace him or (b) turn him AI.

I vote for (a) Pause and Replace.

Verjigorm May 17th, 2010 08:34 AM

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Oops... Now I staled. NP... I should be all good.

Corvus May 19th, 2010 03:29 AM

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Kupiko, would it help if we switched to 48 hour turns? I'd really hate to kick you, but if you stale too much there aren't many options.

Corvus May 19th, 2010 02:44 PM

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Due to my edit button disappearing again -_-. It would appear Marignon has turned themselves AI.


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