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I think admin password would be advisable, since you have a co-admin there's no problem, or you can pass the torch (password) to a player if you can't admin.

Not sure on the settings as I have yet to host a game, I did take a look and promtly got confused too @.@

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The base CBM mod should be listed as 'Conceptual Balance 1.6' complete, though 'Worthy Heroes 1.91 + CBM 1.6' should also work well. The "Indy Commanders Only" variant removes recruitable independent troops from all provinces, leaving only the commanders. This forces nations to rely on national troops (and is mainly intended as an AI balancing mod if i recall correctly).

Whichever CBM 1.6 variant you use, as long as the initial pretender design is unchanged, and each player has CBM 1.6 installed and active when they design their pretenders, everything should be fine.

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OK, someone that is familiar with starting a game needs to get this one started....I have got everything but the Damn map, which says it is not valid when I D/l it. (yes, it is the one that was just changed).

I will still admin or someone else can but lets get this thing started....any takers....

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The game is up, I will PM the password to the admins. Submit your pretenders!

Edit: I only uploaded a modified .map file, you'll still need the .tga file from the original Land of Legends, the exact same graphics are used. Attention everyone: Make sure you have downloaded and installed at the very least:

Conceptual Balance Mod 1.6 (for pretender design)
Land of Legends Map

Everything else (modified .map file and edm1.1) can be handled server-side, though feel free to download those as well if you like.

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A GREAT BIG thanks to attackdeone!!!!!!!!!!

We are up and running....

I suggest 24 hours to do your pretenders and test them on th e map and first turn will be sent out Thursday morning!!

maybe if we are all checking our comps, we can get in 5 or 7 turns this weekend!!

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im not sure on master password, ask him - but if your going to use CBM use the whole thing, I don't know what indie commanders only means, but may as well go full CBM or vanilla.

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I set the game up with CBM 1.6 and EDM 1.1 as posted in the original thread by Ragnars Wolves. Request granted!

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Embarrassing - I have my pretender designed now, but I forgot what to do with him=p

Also, what is the name of our game on the llamaserver?

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Send an email to 'pretenders[at]llamaserver.net' with the pretender as an attached file. It should be located in your dominions3/savedgames/newlords folder and be named 'early_oceania_0.2h' or something along those lines.

Make sure you include the game name 'Kindanew' in the subject of your email.

Once you, Zultor, and Ragnars Wolves send in your pretenders the game will start. (The game is set to start as soon as everyone has sent their pretenders in).

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all done.

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No offense intended, Xanatos, but I'm not sure you got it quite right- llamaserver isn't showing a pretender from Oceania as having been submitted. Did you get a confirmation email from llamaserver saying it received your pretender file?

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I did not, however, I also see no game under llamaserver as awaiting pretenders by that name, are we sure that is the name?

correction, i see it now, ill try re-sending the file.

recorrection - apparently I did get an email saying it was received.

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Good luck everyone, this is a preety neat concept and I will be watching it to see how it works.

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Well gentlemen we have a problem....

Someone has hijacked the game....I wanted to be the last person to send in my pretender so the game would start late tonight (weds) and we would all have a turn in the morning.

HOWEVER, when I went to send it in it would not accept it and on further investigation not only has someone sent it (my pretender for Abysia) but a turn as well.

I have turned off the quickhost and I need whoever is Abysia in this game to either state it or PM me.

I guess we have to start over (sorry attackdrone for all the work you put in to this and may have to come to the rescue agian.

I have heard of this happening with REALLY NEW players who don't realize you have to sign up...but in my own game:doh:

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Yeah, we'll need to start this over. Watch out for hijackers! Send me a PM when you're ready for me to start it again, I'll use the same admin password that I PM'd to you earlier.

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FYI, you shouldn't need to re-create the game from scratch, as if the game is still on turn 1, there should* be an option to roll the game back to the 'waiting for Pretenders' stage, after which the admin can remove the rogue Pretender, allowing the correct player to upload theirs.


* I say should, since I can't 100% remember, and testing it requires being admin of a game on turn 1. Which none of my games are right now.

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Thanks for the tip, I've gone ahead and taken the liberty as I was he who volunteered to set the game up, and cleared out Abysia and restarted the game.

Only Ragnars Wolves will need to resubmit his pretender, everyone else is fine.

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Doing it now!! Thanks guys:D

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OK, Pretender received...

I set the game to start automatically, so we should be getting turn one any moment. Sorry for the screwup, I just never counted on a hijacker.

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My turn is in....THANKS attakdrone!!!

I have a question....are we all supposed to have a Farmland in our starting circle? I don't but that is Ok I am more resource intense than money. And I have a spot I like on the map.

AND, I will be expecting Tribute from all you FAKE pretenders!!! Just make the deposit into the First Bank of Abysia. (Take a day if you need it, you will find us VERY Easy to get along with!!:p

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I have received an initial turn file twice (two different emails). Is there any sort of technical problem?

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Read the posts before these...someone Hijacked the game and we had to more or less restart it. attackdrone would be the one to tell you which turn to use if it even matters. We deleted the hijacker and I got my pretender and turn in right away, so we should be in good shape. as far as the game goes.

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You need to use the most recently received file.

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Two starts have an additional province adjacent to their capital instead of a farmland (to allow players to be spread more evenly throughout the map). I suppose this is good for Abysia!

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That would compensate for it ok, just wondered. Thanks:up:

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I am having problems with units that won't move where they should be able to.

If there are any experts reading this thread, I would welcome their assistance in figuring this out. I've never seen something like this in Dominions before.

This may impede my submission of turn 3 until I figure it out, since I can't expand if my units won't move.

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Are you sure there's an actual province connection between where the units are and where they "should be able to go" ? Sometimes provinces that look like they should connect don't. Hit the 8 key (or toggle province connections in Map Filters) to check that out.

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If there is a river, on this map only bridges allow crossing of rivers. There is a very slight chance it is a bug, if so try moving to a different province instead.

On another note, this might be a short game for me! My entire army plus reinforcements died to a small number of independent archers, and there are two unrest causing events for me. I'll fight to the bitter end though.

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Yeah, noticed the sharp drop on the graph, I figured something like that had happened. Bummer. That said, there are none too many rush nations among us, and from the graphs I'd say only 3 SC gods are out there (4 if Yomi's pretender is a Cyclops or LoP waiting on some gear). It's not over for you yet.

That being said, expansion with EA Agartha is always a pain. Well, everything with EA Agartha is a pain :) but early expansion even more so. They say CBM made the stone hurlers very good once massed, but meh. I just can't get anything done with them or the rest of the dreck Agartha can recruit. Even the sacred giants can't hit the broad side of an aircraft carrier :/.

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I'm pretty sure the province connections are okay and that's not the source of the problem.

May I request a turn extension while I try to figure this out?

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Ragnars said Extension granted....He will start with 24 hours. Let him know if you need more.

So you did hit 8 and there is a yellow line to the province you want to move to?

If not could be a bug but usually this isn't the kind of bug that comes from a modded game.

He should be home (he only lives about 1000 feet from me) and have it extended by now.

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I should stop being coy -- I have a flying SC pretender who as far as I can tell won't fly. It will only move to neighboring provinces.

I tested it with this map before and didn't have any problems, although I never ended up in this starting position before.

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This SC pretender isn't leading any troops who can't fly I presume? The *cough* can also spawn undead and sometimes they are automatically assigned to the summoner in some cases. Otherwise I know its happened to me before (very rarely, twice ever, thankfully nothing critical) where some of my orders are never carried in a MP game...

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It isn't a Turkey is it? Not good being a Turkey this close to Thanksgiving!!

Seriously, I had the problem in a SP game on one of Pasha's Maps. I REALLY REALLY hate to say this but I reloaded it making a new game and it worked fine.

Try everything you can think of and ask some people who are modders. I will extend if we have to, but with one getting his starting army knocked out and you having problems, I don't want this game to fall apart or get in it about 30 turns and have issues come up.

We (I don't even want to say it)may have to start over so everyone has a chance to finish this game in one way or another.

Most of us have started together and are learning from each other as we go. I don't want to leave anybody behind as I enjoy this group of personalities.

my only (:sick:) problem is for once I actually got a starting location I like (well, I knew that was too good to be true. Dang Dominion Gods are screwing with me, so I say to them:p

Guys, we are on turn 4...we could have this up and running again quicker than we had to do the rollbacks and we lived thru that. I must say his is the most resilient group of players you could ask for.:up:

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I got no problem with restarting if some players have issues with bugs, or if Agartha feels bummed out by his start. I'm really not competitive by nature (least not in the "f*** you I'm winning" sense of the word) and I wouldn't want to take advantage of bugs, or other players not having as much fun as I am.

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I can take a look at the turn file if you like to see if I can work out why the Pretender can't move.

(@ mickingbird - I'm PM-ed you my email address for you to send the .trn file to if you do want me to take a look at it)

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Thank Cal, lets hope you can work this out =/

I'd prefer not having to restart, but will go with general consensus I suppose.

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Me too....

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No way would I want to restart! So what if all the Pale Ones are dead and there is no money to be found in any of the rioting caverns? I'll make it work somehow.

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I want this game to be a stepping stone for all of us to the next level. I feel like we have all joined and been brought along at the same time, and I certainly am not going to let a bug screw this up at turn 4. There is NO DOUBT in my mind that attackdrone will gut it out, or Mockingbird would live with it.

But at turn four there is NO reason WHY they should have too.

If his Chicken (Lol, sorry couldn't help it) won't fly this turn I say we start over...and to make it fair to all, you have a taste of what you need, we will allow new pretenders to be sent in (if you want to).

I am going to extend the turn 24 hours and if Mockingbird gets lift off we will continue, if not we will start over. I just want to make sure whatever problem it is is fixed.

Sound good to everyone? I would like to hear from everyone with their opinions.

BTW, quickhost is still on aand I will be the last to send a pretender so you have time to let your feelings be known...honest opinions please....

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My start was not the greatest ever, so I certainly wouldn't object overly much to a restart.

My starting position was also somewhat better when the fake Abysia was in. :)

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If Mockingbird's position is bugged then we need to restart. I like the map, but it won't work well if one position is unplayable.

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Well, Mockingbird turned in his turn, so I guess he pretender is flying.

I just sent in my turn so we are about to get another and I have not heard from him to the contrary.

I will PM him bu tit looks like it is a go right now.

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Sorry for not responding sooner -- things have been kind of hectic. I figured out the pretender movement issue, so we are good to go. Thanks for your understanding and suggestions.

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I am giving C'tis (Zultor) a 6 hour extension as it seems the hosting time is almost upon us and he has not got his turn in....Hate to see someone stale on turn 6.

I check the forums but sometimes do NOT check llamaserver for who is in and time remaining. If you need an extension please PM or post here.

I can't promise if you don't post that you won't get a stale, and after the problems in Raw Recruits that a lot of us are in, no rollbacks for staling.

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Huh, sorry about that. I checked all my games before I went to bed last night and thought I was in the clear.

Oh well, thanks for looking out for me RW won't happen again.

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Whelp, seems someone has jumped Agartha in their period of weakness. Own up !

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Ain't me said the Amazon (sauro, in case you didn't know):eek:

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The independents jumped me first. Considering that my provincial defense has an attack of 8... even militia can beat them, and they did!

Yep, Agartha lost its army twice to tribal independents then had its capital provincial defense beaten by an opponent's militia mercenaries. Oh, Agartha! Truly they are a tragic race.

Edit: Yes, I have been using troglodytes to augment my tard-sloths. They did not work as well as I had hoped.

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Oceania wants no trouble with anyone=p leave the sea in peace, and she will leave you in peace.