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I am forgoing diplomacy if "without a word" means with a message and "that close to your capital" is the province next to MY capital.

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Hah. We just had asymmetric intel, that's all. Your dominion saw my capital, but I had no clue who's dominion that was or how far their capital was from me. Also, messages sent in-game take a turn to arrive, so I'd advise using forum messages in the future. Thankfully we were able to avoid an "incident" this time around.

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Gauging by your position I am going to be hopelessly pinned into this mountain range. I believe war will be an inevitable eventuality between us.

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Yeah, this map ended up being terribad. We're crammed in the side with 6 to 8 provinces each, while everyone else gets 20 or so.

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I'm warning you, Caelum. Stay away or suffer the wrath of the giants!

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OK, that's really not very cool. Maybe next time fixed starts would be a better plan?

Alternatively, I recommend building manuals of water breathing and taking to the ocean, I am sure Oceania has so many provinces that he won't mind if you take a few ...

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Or we could just brutally murder one another until there are only 3 people on land.

Edit: And then brutally murder some more.

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Tien, for the good of both our people, your people must die.

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Why are you discriminating against the sea dwellers? Won't Oceania's feelings be hurt if we don't brutally murder him too?

Equal brutal murders for finned folk too! :fight:

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So in other words, for the good of all of us except the ones who are dead?

I haven't run out of cake yet, monkeyman! Believe me, I'm still alive!
:p

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Wait, you've got cake? Quick, everyone - stacks on TC - HE'S GOT CAKE!!! :D

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Just quietly... I hear the oceans are full of cake...

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Mmmmm, cake. Anyone fancy a swim and some cake? I hear every piece comes with a free water gem.

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Then I harvest death gems from your corpse with the sickle of unending pain.

:)

This is probably a dumb question, but in my Sent Items tab for private messages it is empty. Shouldn't I be able to see the messages I sent? Is anyone getting my messages? Hello? Can anyone hear me?

:confused:

Thanks Calahan.

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The Private Messaging system on these forums (currently) does not automatically save the PM's you send to your sent folder.

To keep a copy of the PM's you send in your sent box, you need to tick a box below the message in the 'Additional Options' section. The box you need to tick is called something like "Save a copy of this message in your Sent Messages folder". If you tick this box before sending the message, then a copy will be saved in your sent folder.

It's very annoying to have to do that all the time, and many users have asked for sent messages to be saved automatically. But currently they are not, so your only option right now is to manually tick the box each time :(

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Yeah, I had a pretty major panic attack when I first started using the forums and realised I couldn't find my sent messages.

That is why when I am negotiating, I usually quote back the relevant bit from the other guy's email (as they may no longer have the original).

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This was a triumph! I'm making a note here: HUGE SUCCESS!
:D

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Tien'Chi, you've changed nothing. Your nation has the attention of those infinitely your greater. That which you know as Bandar Log is your salvation through destruction.

We will find another way.

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Interesting turn.

On the downside, my temple got destroyed by an earthquake this turn.

On the upside, the kind folks at T'ien C'hi sent a large number of aid packages of "Great Wyrm Tasty Fried Snacks" for the survivors, which had greatly helped. I have to say, nothing refreshes like the taste of a deep fried Great Wyrm.

Although I have to ask, how is it that T'ien C'hi came to have 15 tons of dead Great Wyrm to hand to make these?

In un-related news, shares in Bandar Log are down in trading today at the "Gods-R-Us" stock exchange.

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I hear Bandar Log's shares in the "Capitals-R-Us" stock exchange is about to go down, too.

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Will this be before or after Bandar finishes exterminating the entire population of TC for their own good, do you think? :)

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Haha. Neither one, I believe. Elephants don't trample too well when they've got lances stuck in their sides.

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True facts.

Edit: Unless they turn undead. Gawd, Undead Elephants would be the worst.

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Undead elephants - man, got to get me some of those :D

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At the moment it seems like Caelum (number of provinces, first to get the second fort down) and Oceania (gem income, position) might be the powers to watch?

All though all of us are doing pretty well at the moment, from what I can see, so it is promising to be an interesting game.

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Yeah... it was a good turn for me.
First i got me a free fort and then my commander won the tournament.
Although that wasn't very difficult as nobody had the nerve to compete ... weak :re:

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I had a guy scheduled to compete, but scripts for dueling aren't good for open warfare, sadly -.- Barbarian horseman whatshisname shall be remembered.

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You can't really call anyone a power to watch at this point; it's just too early. Although they do have strong positions, that much is for certain.

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He, if you've got some spare time one your hands you should check this "Let's Play" out on the something awful forum.

Or if everybody already knows about this one you can call me Noob or something... :(

http://forums.somethingawful.com/sho...0&pagenumber=1

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Looks fun, thanks I'll check it out.

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Oh hey, that thing. I read it earlier but never got to finish it.

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I'm still thinking about the offers made this turn. I'm not attacking one (Oceania is still inward looking) so I've put a turn up.

The sea ponies will get back to you however, if you have been talking to you.

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... I think the sea ponies are drunk... or at least need to learn land-grammar.

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Oh gawd did I stale last turn? I did...damn.

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Grammar ninjas sea ponies are.

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Greetings,

the good citizens of Caelum have decided to no longer be bounded by the shekels of irrelevant treaties.

Therefore any treaties we had with the giant earthbound people of Jotunheim are hereby declared void.

As the Caelum people are honorable the agreements of the past will be honored until expiry. Beyond that only the wind know the direction our countries will fly.

With high regards,

Hocus Pocus.

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:doh:

Damned spell control. Of course it's shackles not shekels.

Who said flying people are good spellers. :p

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She shakes her head; She attempted to reason with your people, Caelum, but they were unreasonable. She attempted to be friends with your people, but they were unfriendly. She attempted to prevent a war with your people, but they were far too war loving.

She will give you the benefit of the doubt and not strike unless you do first; but be warned, hordes of the giants shall be waiting, and so shall She...

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Non-terrestrial high fivesssssssss

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:D

That's right.
Landlubbers, Tsss...

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You'll never be as good at lubbering land as us.

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Seems to be everyone wants a piece of She from Jotunheim at the moment.

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Now that was an epic battle. The sky was filled with fire and steel, and the very corpses of those slain under Jotunheim's unjust rule did rise up against their oppressors! Our imperial army was outnumbered two to one, but righteousness was on our side and we did prevail!

Perhaps She will think twice before relying on men that are as steadfast as her treaties.

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The Lord of Shinuyama has witnessed the atrocities of the Jotumheim giants against our distant kin, the people of TC. No longer could we remain as bystanders to such actions which insult our sense of honour.

After reviewing the matter with the Council of War, the forces of Shinuyama have liberated the south western provinces of the Jots and will continue to make war until She can be brought to peace with her neighbors and guarantee the sovereignty of TC.

The Lord of Shinuyama is happy to receive peace envoys from the Jots for negotiations, should they be serious about meeting our demands.

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Good thing the majority of my losses were simple province defenders and mercenaries, eh? And that your armies were reduced to many corpses?

You shall be mopped up soon enough.

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I must say, those Jotun have the Dark One's own luck when it comes to retreating.

Or maybe it's just from all the practice they've had. Hmm.

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Through pure chance, some religious pilgrims from the Holy Land of Marignon witnessed the battle between T'ien C'hi and Jotunheim in the Hexwoods, in this month just passed.

A few observations from Friar Anfar follow:
"The heathens from Jotunheim had an over preponderance of archers, with an insufficient number of melee troops to cover their front line. What melee troops they did have were mostly second rate giants, in insufficient numbers.

The heretics from T'ien C'hi, in contrast, had a more balanced army with large numbers of footmen covering off the front, and some elite cavalry units on their right flank, backed by archers.

In the battle proper, the arrows from the heathens (Jotunheim) bounced harmlessly off the wall shields of the heretics (T'ien C'hi). In contrast, the heretics (TC) were able to drive the giants frontline fighters into retreat through a combination of massed arrow fire and stabbing at their oversized feet with spears,

Once the heathenish giant foot soliders (J) fled the field, the heretics cavalry and footmen (TC) closed with the archers in the rear and rapidly put them to flight.

Of note, the heathen's prophet was at the battle, but chose to flee rather than die honouring the good name of his false god. Such cowardice makes me sick!

After the battle, I celebrated the horrible death of so many of the ungodly from both sides (curse them!) with a good meal and a small witch burning. Glory to the Great Lord Torquemada the Merciful!!"

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Between unfortunate losses and three enemies, She shall now retreat into the darkness; She shall leave behind a false self to die in her place, while the real She is off rebuilding her power. This is not the last of She. She shall return.

And when She does...

You will all pay!

(Going AI because there's not much else I can do at this point; one lucky nation shall receive my vast stores of gold and gems.)

As a postmortum account:

Ever since the start of the game when She found herself so close to so many nations, She knew She would have to go to war with one of them; it just so happened that Bandar Log was not only the easiest target, but She would receive 1500 gold from T'ien Ch'i for the act! That and a castle, of course. But She got greedy. She proceeded to attack T'ien Ch'i as well after the apes were crushed; why not have 1500 gold and a castle? Not to mention even another castle! This would not have been so bad if She had not had to deal with the sea dwellers encroaching on her land, not that she could do much about it, and a preparing for a possible war against Caelum. She worked 'with' Shinuyama against Caelum, but She knew, way in the back of her mind, that She would be betrayed. She didn't act against Shinuyama sooner on the off chance he was actually telling the truth; it's not like with her full funds going to war against T'ien Ch'i that she could pay for a first strike on a second front. T'ien Ch'i was smart in that it diverted most of its attention to research and mercenaries as soon as the war started; not only did this combination give it a surprising edge in battle, but will likely allow T'ien Ch'i to survive any double crosses from Caelum or Shinuyama.

Ultimately, She feels like She would have been in a better position, if only She had gone to war with Caelum instead of T'ien Ch'i, because even though they were more powerful, there likely would not have been as many diplomatic land mines. This is excluding, of course, the chance of T'ien Ch'i double crossing her. Which was entirely likely, considering T'ien Ch'i hadn't signed a NAP with us 'Jots' yet.

From a military perspective, Marignon is right. She had too many archers. Though this helped in battle against the masses of monkeys, it quickly fell flat on its face against the shield bearing T'ien Ch'i.

Oh well, it was a fun run.

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Good game SirMu, it was fun playing with you (and She, of course!). Once you get dog piled by a few people, including the strongest nation on the board (Caelum), that's pretty much it from what I can tell. And after seeing events in 84 and 93 this turn, I think going AI is a fair call at this point as its basically all over.

And thanks for telling us about the deal with TC etc, its always fun to know more about what actually happened :)

Hope to you see again next game!