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kasnavada May 4th, 2011 03:59 AM

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I'm going to have a problem with the game, I am moving next week and will not have internet for a week (if the local telecom services don't screw up). I'll try to get my turns by using whatever internet I got available, but I can't be sure that I will be able to. I will not be there from 07/05 to 15/05. I *may* be able to get a turn or two in the middle, but nothing sure.

For now I plan to set the timer to 2 weeks or so, if it's too inconvenient for you guys... I could try to find a temporary sub. After that, however, I'm "clear", and got no reason for stalling the game coming in the next few months.

kasnavada May 17th, 2011 03:14 AM

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I'm back !

tratorix May 18th, 2011 08:26 PM

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Hey Ermor, take your turn already.

wonderloss May 20th, 2011 01:41 PM

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What is that in my inbox? Could it be? Why yes, it is a Vanilla_Strawberry turn file! Oh happy day!

wonderloss May 24th, 2011 12:04 AM

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Will we be going back to a shorter turn time now?

Nightfall May 24th, 2011 02:30 AM

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Yes, please do...

I don't mind delays due to RL stuff happening, but one of the reasons I joined this game was that it was proposed as a fast paced game.

MagicDinosaur765 May 24th, 2011 04:46 PM

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I'm sorry because the enormous delay to send my turn.

Tests and tests and study and study... It's a bad time for the University students.

kasnavada May 25th, 2011 11:00 AM

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I'll set a 2 day time when next turn hosts, unless someone has a good reason not to.

tratorix June 5th, 2011 01:22 AM

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Turn timer goes back to 48 hours next turn, right? We've been waiting on Ermor for like five days now.

kasnavada June 6th, 2011 06:28 AM

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Yup it is back on 2 days now.

I discovered the "advanced" functions of Llama server actually, when you set up a duration it works for the next turn, not the current one. So for current turn (21) you have 48 hours. Back on schedule !

kasnavada June 9th, 2011 05:37 PM

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No drama ?

Maybe I'll have some next turn !

Nightfall June 12th, 2011 06:37 AM

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I think that there is tons of drama going on, people just aren't advertising who is fighting who...

It's hard to tell from just the score graphs and a few scouts but there seems to be a lot of action in the middle of the map, with, I'm guessing, about 5 different nations involved.

kasnavada June 12th, 2011 06:53 AM

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Probably...

I never should have taken misfortune 3. That's now 6 provinces that rebelled / got barbarian attacks in less than 24 turns. Plus, my main battle plan failed, I'm in a rather bad situation now.

Nightfall June 12th, 2011 08:37 AM

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Ouch, Misfortune 3 is pretty brave... but I guess you had to get the points for all that income bonus from somewhere. ;)

Can't say that I'd go that way with Caelum, you really need a nation with better PD than them to play high Misfortune.

kasnavada June 12th, 2011 10:00 AM

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At least I'll know for next time it's a bad idea... I don't really know of a PD that can take 90+ barbarian unscathed though.

Also, I prepared a turn per turn AAR, which I won't release until I'm dead or the game is.

wonderloss June 12th, 2011 01:41 PM

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Mictlan and myself (C'Tis) are going back and forth.

I do not think I would go with misfortune higher than 2, if I did, it would be with order 3. I tried M3 before in SP, and had the same problem with losing provinces to crappy events.

kasnavada June 12th, 2011 03:20 PM

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The worst thing is that I do have order 3 !

kasnavada June 15th, 2011 11:26 AM

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Extended time by 16 hours since 3 have not send their turns yet.

kasnavada June 19th, 2011 05:01 AM

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I've added some time to let llamabeast repair whatever was wrong (thanks to him) with the server, and it seems to be done (thanks again).

Next turn is due on the 24th but timer is still 48 hours.

kasnavada June 21st, 2011 04:04 AM

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Tries to wake MagicDinausaur765 up =)

kasnavada June 25th, 2011 10:36 AM

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Still on 48 hours schedule, be wary !

tratorix June 25th, 2011 05:39 PM

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I'll be setting myself AI this turn, as Tien Chi basically has me beat. Seems I really underestimated warriors of the five elements. It's been fun. :)

Nightfall June 25th, 2011 08:23 PM

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Hey Tratorix,

You fought well and hard.

I would recommend that you send in at least 2-3 more turns before going AI. It probably will not make any difference to me, but at the moment there is a chance that the AI will attack Caelum before I can finish it off.

tratorix June 26th, 2011 01:19 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Nightfall (Post 779398)
Hey Tratorix,

You fought well and hard.

I would recommend that you send in at least 2-3 more turns before going AI. It probably will not make any difference to me, but at the moment there is a chance that the AI will attack Caelum before I can finish it off.

It's nice of you to say that, but from where I was sitting it seems like you kicked my *** all over the place. ;)

Also, since I have no money and the only troops I have left aren't really near him, I don't think the AI will pick a fight with caelum.

kasnavada June 29th, 2011 07:28 AM

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Ok... Ermor staled twice.

If I have no answer tomorrow, I'll postpone look for a sub / set him AI (depending on you guys).

Nightfall June 29th, 2011 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by kasnavada (Post 779532)
Ok... Ermor staled twice.

If I have no answer tomorrow, I'll postpone look for a sub / set him AI (depending on you guys).

He needs to be subbed, in my opinion way to big to AI... although if C'tis is almost out of it (I'm not sure of the situation there), perhaps wonderloss would be willing to take over?

wonderloss June 29th, 2011 09:59 AM

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Mictlan and I have been playing tennis, and going back and forth, without either of us getting a decisive victory. I think I am about to push back. I am in a crappy position, but my defeat is not imminent.

I am also involved in another game right now, and that takes up enough of my time that I am not sure I could do justice to a position as large as Ermor's.

I am willing to do it, but I think a sub from outside of the game would be a better choice, and I think we could find a sub.

MagicDinosaur765 June 29th, 2011 10:03 AM

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I really enjoyed this turn.
And I think Ulm enjoyed it too. : )

C'tis and Ulm are attacking me since at least 10 turns ago.
I attacked C'tis and I conquered a lot of provinces.
But Ulm is destroying my whole empire...
This turn Ulm stormed one of my castles, and my mages called a lot of imps to bite and devour his troops.

:)

kasnavada June 30th, 2011 03:39 AM

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A sub it is.

I have a family reunion this week end and will not be able to play due to no internet available (friday evening to monday morning).

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showt...589#post779589

Also, I postpone once again to wait for the sub.

kasnavada July 1st, 2011 06:21 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MagicDinosaur765 (Post 779540)
I really enjoyed this turn.
And I think Ulm enjoyed it too. : )

C'tis and Ulm are attacking me since at least 10 turns ago.
I attacked C'tis and I conquered a lot of provinces.
But Ulm is destroying my whole empire...
This turn Ulm stormed one of my castles, and my mages called a lot of imps to bite and devour his troops.

:)

That sounds fun !

We are going back and forth with Ermor too but... barbarians attack again and again. 2 turns ago I move to some indie province I hadn't conquered yet, and the very next turn the AI strikes back : it got barbarian attacked (that's 7 or 8 now...).

Thankfully I didn't get the vampire attacks or some bogus.

Bullock July 1st, 2011 08:52 AM

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Hello Guys !

At last i can post !

So i'm a newcomer, i practiced quite a lot solo game but that was years ago and now i want to experience multi :)

i dunno well ermor EA but i m sure i ll have fun joining the game, especially being directly in the action as it seems to be.

See you soon in game

dojango July 1st, 2011 10:32 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MagicDinosaur765 (Post 779540)
I really enjoyed this turn.
And I think Ulm enjoyed it too. : )

C'tis and Ulm are attacking me since at least 10 turns ago.
I attacked C'tis and I conquered a lot of provinces.
But Ulm is destroying my whole empire...
This turn Ulm stormed one of my castles, and my mages called a lot of imps to bite and devour his troops.

:)

This is my first multi-player game, and I must say that players certainly script differently than the AI does! Still, we shall see what sort of counter-strategy might work.

kasnavada July 1st, 2011 01:18 PM

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@Bullock :

I'll send you the information you need ASAP. Have you check the "can receive MP" button in the options ? I need your email adress.

Bullock July 1st, 2011 02:12 PM

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Everything seems to be working fine on my side !

Time for some diplo and my turn 28 should be done by the 5th.

kasnavada July 8th, 2011 03:13 AM

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Aeliane looked at her windows. The shadows of the master of the 5 elements were all over the place, and currently were the largest empire around. That was definitely not good.

That left her with only one choice. Messengers were sent to all known rivals. For all of them, the message was that Caelum would start attacking Tien'Chi in 2 month's time. For all but Tien'Chi, rivals were asked to join the crusade.


/RP : respecting current agreements, first blood will be authorised at turn 34.

Nightfall July 8th, 2011 11:42 AM

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Yazi, prophet to Magic8Ball, surveys the fortress as the sun is rising, turning to his aide.

"This is the last of them."

Yes sir, it has been confirmed, the foul being Jack Skellington has fallen, his head was recovered and is on it's way north to take it's place alongside Vidrir's.

He sighs, "Just as I finish one war, another is to start."

It appears that way sir, the people of the sky have revoked our pact.

"I wonder who tricked them into doing that, not wise of them at all. And the timing could not be worse for them, had they waited a few more months half of our forces would have been reassigned. What does that indicate to you?"

A lack of good intelligence and scouting sir.

"Just so, see to it that the men are reformed as soon as this fight is done with, they should be told of this development as soon as is practical."

Of course sir, there is also word from the mages, the capital has approved the magical support you requested.

"And the new recruitment centre."

Fully operational sir.

"Excellent... I feel him you know, now that he is here with us, his power resonates within me even at this great distance."

My life for He Who Holds the Fate of All.

"Magic8Ball does not require your life Sethan, just your worship and service."

Bullock July 11th, 2011 06:51 AM

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From his peaceful corner of the world the ermor nation remain carefree. Especially since the discovering of nature magic path who made beautiful butterflies appearing everywhere in our provinces.

But black smokes are rising in far away lands and spies are bringing bad news of a fast spreading dominion overwhelming all others. Messengers of many nations came to our gate with the purpose of finding allies or asking Ermor to stay peacefully in their corner.

Therefore some decisions have to be made and obviously a war is coming. Troops are starting to gather and the drums of war announce the beginning of a new conflict.

Ermor's plan will be exposed to everybody soon and will start early in the Year 4.

Bullock July 12th, 2011 04:06 AM

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So we are going to expend our territory trough c'tis. Then we will have more connection to others nations which will allow us to interact more with the rest of the world.

So C'tis prepare for war !

wonderloss July 15th, 2011 10:18 AM

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Crap. I took my turn last night, but I forgot to submit it. Llamaserver is down, though. If you get this in time, kasnavada, could you postpone the turn 12 hours? If not, my fault, no big deal.

Bullock July 15th, 2011 02:09 PM

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well the server are up but didn t compute next turn.
I think the host need to force hosting which give u some extra time.
Didn t you send ur turn while server was down ?

wonderloss July 15th, 2011 02:17 PM

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I have not sent my turn. I will not have access to my home PC for ~8 hours.

kasnavada July 16th, 2011 04:56 AM

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Errr sorry. Didn't see the message.

wonderloss July 16th, 2011 11:11 AM

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It's okay. Due to llamaserver's weirdness, it did not host until my turn got in.
Not that it helped me much.

kasnavada July 19th, 2011 05:09 PM

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Poor Berevezan! He could not get to the first place of the Hall of Fame because he was slain by the treacherous magics of Tien'Chi !

Berevezan, you will be remembered forever in our nation for all the good you did to us !

Glory to the Winged People !

wonderloss July 20th, 2011 03:52 PM

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Thrashing around in what is likely their death throes, the lizards of C'Tis will inflict as much damage as we can to Ermor's legions before we go.

"Do not go gentle into that good night." - D'lenn T'masssssss.

Nightfall July 21st, 2011 12:05 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kasnavada (Post 780570)
Poor Berevezan! He could not get to the first place of the Hall of Fame because he was slain by the treacherous magics of Tien'Chi !

The sad part is that wasn't even the one with +8 penetration... that one you lucked a save against...
;)

Bullock July 21st, 2011 03:43 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wonderloss (Post 780632)
Thrashing around in what is likely their death throes, the lizards of C'Tis will inflict as much damage as we can to Ermor's legions before we go.

"Do not go gentle into that good night." - D'lenn T'masssssss.

We were not expecting less ! Rendez vous at your capital ;)

Cheers

kasnavada July 21st, 2011 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Nightfall (Post 780657)
Quote:

Originally Posted by kasnavada (Post 780570)
Poor Berevezan! He could not get to the first place of the Hall of Fame because he was slain by the treacherous magics of Tien'Chi !

The sad part is that wasn't even the one with +8 penetration... that one you lucked a save against...
;)

My Kings got 17 base MR, with +8 penetration you've barely got a bit more than half chance of getting a kill, assuming I don't have a scout in the province, which reduces your chances by half ! ;) I should have put up some antimagic amulet, which would have reduces your chances to 1/3 or so (and then, only for the guy with +8 penetration).

Still worth it, especially since you've got loads of gems to spare. But I'll counter it, like you countered my seeking arrows !

Nightfall July 21st, 2011 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by kasnavada (Post 780664)
Still worth it, especially since you've got loads of gems to spare. But I'll counter it, like you countered my seeking arrows !

Yeah you can mitigate it somewhat, but much harder to completely counter, and, more importantly, much more expensive to counter.

By the way as far as scouts go, from my own experiences with being on the receiving end, I think size may be a factor, keep on eye on it and let me know what you think.

And your math is wrong, 2 errors as per the rulebook, and, I've been told, one where the rulebook is in error. Probably should have let you keep believing that... but this game is for learning after all.

kasnavada July 21st, 2011 09:41 AM

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About my maths, I did not do any, it was an estimation. Since you asked, I checked, and found this :
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=17160

Which, coupled with the formula in the manual, tells me that with 17 MR and +8 penetration (and base 10), so you've got +1, so 62% chance. That's more than half.
With 21 MR and +8 penetration (and base 10), you've got -3 so 30% chance. Around 1/3. I ignore the elements you have not given me though, like skill in astral. Since I do not know about them.

The estimations I had were correct assuming the formula also is. That's where I'd be interested in the "real" formula for MR though, if the one of the manual is wrong - I can't find any reference to it on the forum. I must have missed it.


About counters... well. You will see. It's going to be WAAAAY cheaper than the one you found for the seeking arrows.


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