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Turn interval updated to 72 hours.

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Okay, so now this is some super-strange thing. There was a battle in Holburg this round with Mictlan. In the battle replay, I scatter and rout his army. However, in the results, I am listed as "beaten by a stronger force", and the province now belongs to Mictlan. How is that even possible? If there was a reinforcing enemy army, should not it move in BEFORE the fight? I have no other replay than the one I decisively win. Can Mictlan comment and explain?

If not, I protest and call for an arbitrage from the admin.

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The battle report is what actually happened, you hit the replay bug. It sometimes causes the battle replay to show something completely different from what happened.

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Yeah, in my replay I won. That bug happens sometimes, it can be caused by having different mods than the server but it can also just happen for no reason.

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This is a known, if not well-understood, bug. The battle report is all that matters.

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Well, then I request a video of the battle and screenshots of all the enemy leaders' stats that took part in that battle. Under normal circumstances, I would have that information.

I have never encountered it in vanilla, unmodded game.

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I believe all of the stats of the units should be correct.
Here is a thread on the subject. It appears that it has something to do with different random numbers in the replay, though the exact cause it not known. Mods are only one possibility.

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I'm not even sure how I would make a video of the battle and I'm not really seeing why I should since it's a well known bug. The troops didn't rout because I moved two priests from an adjacent province into the province where the battle took place. They were scripted to bless, so the jaguar warriors beat your troops.

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Hey guys, just letting everyone know that I plan on going camping a month from now, on August 20th, for 6 or 7 days. If need be, I'll find a sub for that period.

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I don't really care if it's "understood" or not, it should not happen. Under normal circumstances, I should see a proper replay of what happened in that battle. Information is quite important in this game. I see your priests, and they cast bless, but they are quickly overrun by my cav, resulting in mass rout.

If you don't "see" why you should, than there is something wrong with your sense of fair play. I am entitled to have this information under fair condition and to comenpensate this unfortunate bug, you should make every effort to bring the situation to the normal, fair state. As to the means of how, you can use Fraps, for example. Please postpone until I obtain this material.

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It's not anyone heres responsibility to fix a bug in the game Kamamura. Any information, such as unit stats, blesses, etc. that are in the video are correct. It simply doesn't match the actual events due to a bug.

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Anyway, I see that there is little time, so I submitted my turn. The game however seems to be broken in more ways, since in one of the battles, my Jigami safely fled the field, yet it's nowhere to be found. My theory is that the old 1.6 CBM mod is not compatible with the latest patch (at least I did not heard about a new updated version). I suspect the replays are not accurate at all.

As it is of little interest for me to play a broken game, I withdraw/surrender (take your pick). Find a replacement, or make me computer controlled, I don't really care. Bye.

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It sounds like you might still have the bugged version of CBM 1.6, did you update after the most recent patch? Also here is a zip file with two videos of the battle:http://www.filehosting.org/file/deta...BattleVids.zip There are 2 because fraps stopped recording in the middle for some reason. Also your tears are delicious.

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So, are we going to find a sub for Kamamura or are we just playing with the AI? Because it doesn't look like he's coming back.

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I managed to miss most of the recent posts. I will postpone and try to find a sub.

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Are you still in this kama? If so, have you updated your copy of CBM 1.6 since the patch? The most recent version is linked in the initial post here.

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You might have to PM him, it doesn't sound like he's going to read this thread again.

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He got his turn in yesterday, which is why I thought he might still be in this, so we will see. I sent him a PM.
If he is running the old version of CBM 1.6, that would make a huge difference in combat replays, since some units end up with double attacks.

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He will finish the game.

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Okay, I think I owe everyone here an apology. I was indeed running an obsolete version of CBM 1.6. I considered that improbable, because I am using several computers with different OSs (Windows and Linux), but then I remembered I just installed the same version on all of them.

As wonderloss correctly stated, the problem was indeed in double attacks, specifically my Samurai Cavalry had listed "Katana, Katana, Hoof" instead of "Lance, Katana, Hoof". I thought the two attacks are correct as a compensation for higher cost of that unit, and that's why I went crazy hiring them. Naturally, I was disappointed to see my investment not paying off - I thought my version is the correct, and yours broken. Obviously, the lance counts only on the first impact, but the two katana strikes would make the unit a killer.

Even today, when I looked at the last replay, I saw my cav massacre everything and even slay the Mictlan God, while in the correct replay I saw just now, I saw that the Rain God narrowly escaped.

With that resolved, I think I will last to the end, whatever it may be (though I presume it will end up with Rylegh victory, with the map being all that nicely custom-made and conveniently water-centric, hehe).

So, with that after us, how about some diplomacy? What about everyone against Rylegh? ;-) I think he is the biggest threat anyhow, and he will pick us one by one while we fight.

P.S.: Sorry for not replying, I was indeed not reading this thread. I got very angry, because I came to a conclussion that my justified complaint is being ignored. I have a policy not to read/write anything when angry, because it quickly comes down to insults and personal attacks, and nothing good ever comes out of that.

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That's not my pretender, he's a recruitable mage.

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I appreciate people who admit having made a mistake and apologize. Its sad how few people do those things in the net.

Well, since R'lyeh is all around me, I see things exactly like you. I desperately try to maintain my Dominion and live in constant fear of being attacked broadside by hordes of chaff. The problem is I don't see any means to strike back into the water. I don't want a war with anyone else, but even so I don't see a chance to stand my ground 1on1 against R'lyeh. So my strategy for the moment is build up and wait. I don't think I could be in an offensive alliance aginst R'lyeh.

Oh man, I wish there were much more people with this policy around the net!

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Olm - you can't imagine how difficult for us cholerics is to control our temper. Sometimes, I just have to repeat to myself "sit down, don't say anything, don't write anything, just wait to calm down."

BTW You see it similarly about the lurking menace of our slime-covered watery neighbor? Great! I think the dominion will be really hard to prevent from spreading madness.

Therefore, I am founding the League of Sanity Defenders (LSD) to prevent our world. Anyone willing to join is welcome! (Maybe except Rylegh). As we are currently incapable of launching an underwater invasion, I propose on establishing a no-fly zone over the Rylegh-infested ponds and lakes.

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Ha!

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R'yleh is the only nation currently capable of attacking R'yleh under water, and you refuse to let me join? Fine. Be that way!

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We join the LSD.

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I haven't had any replies to my post looking for subs. I'm going to post within each of my games, as perhaps some of you would like to babysit my nation in my other games, and perhaps someone there would come baby-sit for this one.

I've got three games I need subs for, starting a week from now (evening of the 19th would be ideal), and lasting until the 27th, when I return from camping.

There's DawnoftheMorning. This one is the most involved, and the one I most need a sub for! Playing as EA Caelum, no mods. Doing decently well, entering into late game.

There's LazyDays. (This game!). I really just need a babysitter to recruit mages :P

There's Nations, where I'm playing MA Ulm. This one is a bit of a crazy game due to a custom mod with a lot of changes (CBM 1.6, magic capped at 6th level, no indies, and some others). I understand that another mod package can be a pain, but you do get to check out the map, which I crafted :)

If anyone can take over one or more of these games a week from now, send me a PM.

Thanks!

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I've found a sub for this game, but still need one for DawnoftheMorning and Nations.

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I could babysit Dawnofthemorning for you.

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That would be great. PM your email to me and I'll pass it to the host. I'll also give you a bit of a run down before I go.

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I was Attacked by R'lyeh in Province Nr. 5.
The attacking army consisted, between other troops, of 1 Vastness and 7 greater Othernesses. At the moment I have no clue how to beat these monsters.
So any help, especially relieving attacks at other fronts, would be greatly appreciated.

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Guys, look at me, I'm Man!

"Rly'eh is the real threat here, we need to ally against him! I will accomplish this by attacking every land nation I share a border with!"

Consider me firmly on the squids side in this conflict.

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Yeah, I'd be attacking Man if I wasn't already dealing with Jomon.

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Confucius said: "He who swims with the fishes may sleep with them as well."

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Confishus said: "He who swims with . . . Get the bugs off! Get the bugs off!"

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Tratorix, please read your private message. I did not mean to attack you and was really shocked when I received the turn report. Perhaps I am just to stupid for this game.
First time I unintentionally attacked it was with spies who had still unstealthy troops with them.
This time I just wanted to switch some spies around and moved the similar looking mercenary commander to your province instead of the spy.
All I can say is I am really sorry, and I am ready to compensate you with money or gems or both. I don't want war with you, that would be totally crazy.
So I withdraw at once and again offer you compensation. Just name your price, and if its halfway reasonable and I can afford it, I will pay it this turn.

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Olm - if he attacked, then he probably attacked on purpose. There are no accidents in this game. Since declaration of war is not mandatory, the temptation is sometimes too strong. The only thing you can do about it is what I had to do with Mictlan - hit back so hard he will regret he ever started it. Only when you are perceived as strong enough threat, people will be willing to negotiate, otherwise they will just roll over you.

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From what I see, Mictlan is not in much of a position to negotiate.

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No, I attacked him. And it was an accident. Probably my last. Just too silly!
Well I will fight R'lyeh as long as possible and give you my remaining property in the end, to continue the fight.

Rejoice, N'Goo, the worm of R'lyeh has passed!
 

I would be happy to claim the deed for myself, but in fact the world has to thank Bogus the Troll for salvation from this beast.
So all hail Bogus Wormslayer!
And after hailing him for a month or so, I need to find means to get rid of him, for he besieges my home castle.

And if one beast was not enough, my valiant Wardens, assisted by some magnificent Pegasus Riders have killed Auluudh, the ancient Aboleth and his Army.

Now its only the Vastness with its retinue of greater Othernesses that bother my realm. They managed to evade my Wardens and rather let the Aboleth die in my attack. But I will come to them in time!

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Bogus really can claim a single-handed victory there. The others routed quickly, but Bogus' life drain really did the trick for him.

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The real stroke that won the battle was Rlyeh's wyrm getting frozen early on. That fatigue really spelled the end for it.

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Yes, N'Goo had just one strike left, when he reached Bogus. After that he passed out and the troll just hacked away at an unconscious wyrm.
Perhaps he would even have gotten away with a draw, had he passed out earlier, because Bogus killed the chaff rather slowly.

By the way: The last attempt of Mictlan to break free was also interesting to behold. For a moment I thought he might succeed.

It was a really interesting month indeed!

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FYI, I will not be around much this weekend. If anyone thinks they might need any extensions or anything else for the next turn, please let me know.

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Ulm, did you get a turn in? If so, you might need to resend it. Llamaserver is still showing yours missing, despite updating the list.

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I thought I sent one in, but it's entirely possible with the server not updating that I just assumed I did it. I'll have it sent within the hour.

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Wow, I sure did make some dumb decisions in this game. That's me anyway.

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I have regained most of my territory with some minor battles against the mad ones. Still I feel like being worn down slowly. R'lyeh avoids my main force, harassing my stretched borders with his quite potent forces. He must have nearly 10 vastnesses now, ready to strike at my coastlines.
So if anyone is willing to help against the menace R'lyeh is, now would be a good time. The demise of Mictlan should make some resources available. And I would be very grateful if someone could liberate my castle in Cimri or even attack the western sea. R'lyeh is split at the moment and their god is dead. So when could be a better time to hit them, than now?

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Bye Aorta, see you in another game.