Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [filled]
 

thanks for asking, actually I'd prefer Sauromatia, Amazon Queens, but I haven't set up a pretender yet. When are you going to start the game?

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [filled]
 

I was intending to start midnight, GMT -8. If Arco doesn't post a pretender by then take his spot, and I'll start the first thing next morning!
FYI, I have deleted your Atlantis pretender, so you'll need to resubmit it if he ends up joining, but otherwise you should be able to upload a Sauromatia pretender! I would assume if you were to upload a Sauro pretender with Atlantis still there you'd end up playing two nations. (???)

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [uploading pretenders]
 

As it turned out I won't have the time this night to create a new pretender. So I'll just resubmit and go with Atlantis. Sorry for the inconvenience.

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [uploading pretenders]
 

Eek! I'm loading I'm loading!

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [uploading pretenders]
 

Did you manage to load your pretender properly?

Its pretty straightforward, just follow the instructions in the link provided below....
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=35160

Oops - Megawidget already posted the link on the first page so nvm...

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [uploading pretenders]
 

Are you having technical issues? Note that both CBM1.92 and Streamers & Standards are required, even though I don't see what effective difference the latter would make as it's cosmetic flag changes only.

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [uploading pretenders]
 

This is totally my bad and I don't know what, if anything, this might effect, but I think the pretender I uploaded I had made with the Single Age mod active. Should I remake it and upload it again?

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [uploading pretenders]
 

This is my first game, so let me know if my Pretender isn't there or is screwed up. I followed the directions, so it *should* be okay. It took me a while to get the mods loaded properly, but I got it done.

I am now ready to conquer you. (Tactic: talk tough to cover weakness and fear)

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [uploading pretenders]
 

Its not there yet....
Did you receive a confirmation email from llama?
Remember to use exactly the same name in the subject!
ALearningExperience (no spaces)

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [uploading pretenders]
 

Procyon Lotor- We've been waiting three days now for you to enter your pretender...

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [uploading pretenders]
 

It's probably a good idea to be safe. I'm not sure if llamaserver will outright reject invalid pretenders, or whether they'll just invalidate your turn submissions, and Single Age mod doesn't necessarily make your pretender design invalid. Someone who has played before may shed more light on this?

Procyon, what trouble are you having? You didn't appear to have any issues in the WhatCouldGoWrong game we're both in. :confused:

Should I just force start the game or should I wait? I'm loathe to leave behind a player who's at least active in the thread and is trying to get in, but I don't want to hold everyone else back either.

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [uploading pretenders]
 

No confirmation e-mail, alas. I thought I did it correctly. I will resubmit when I get back to work tonight.

Apologies to all for the delay! I promise to roll over in the game and allow you to crush me under your boots.

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [uploading pretenders]
 

I don't mind waiting another day or two. Can't miss being crushed by Procyon Lotor

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [uploading pretenders]
 

We have started! Alas, I am sorely befuddled. Is anyone else seeing victory provinces on their maps? I am quite certain I configured the game to be without. Are they active? How does one check?

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [uploading pretenders]
 

I'm pretty sure they show up even if inactivated. Someone else please confirm.

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [uploading pretenders]
 

If they were active, they'd have their own graph on the stats.

What's everybodies preferred method for diplo, now that we are under way? PM's here on the forum, IRC?

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [uploading pretenders]
 

I usually prefer PM's here. Sometimes through game can be fun but then there are delays between turns for responses.

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [uploading pretenders]
 

Whats the significance of the vp provs?

Restricting diplo to just in-game makes for much faster play since you can just concentrate on the game mechanics.

PMs means you wait for replies to your messages so you could end up waiting til the last possible moment before uploading your turns (or worse, forget entirely!)

I prefer the former unless I am playing a specifically AAR-heavy game (The creative writing bit takes ages....) but I`m ok either way.

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [uploading pretenders]
 

I think you can win the game by accumulating enough victory points you get by holding victory provinces for a certain amount of time.

As far as diplomacy goes I'm personally using forum PMs because, frankly, in-game messaging system really sucks. Also, I *am* considering doing AARs for all my games, so having raw texts around will come in handy. Email is fine too, in fact it is better probably as I'm more likely to respond to an email when I receive it than to a PM which requires me to be active on the forums.

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [uploading pretenders]
 

I check the PMs here at least once a day, so if anybody wants to get their diplomacy on with the Ice Giants, this is the best way to get at me.

Also I think the VPs automatically show up and everything, but they don't count for anything unless they are active. Some weird bug with Llamaserver. In the other two games I'm playing thats how it is there, too.

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [uploading pretenders]
 

Diplo: You can contact me in-game or via PN. I'll check my PN regularly.

We Atlantians appreciate every trade proposals, NAP offer, sneaky attack offensive alliances against common enemies or any other diplomatic act directed to us. And be sure Atlantis will never stab you in the back after an agreement. We're just like those really cute dolphins helping people not to drown. Really!

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [uploading pretenders]
 

Sorry to be the slow member of the herd, but I can't load the game. It says I need "llamaBanner.dm". I loaded the Banners mod referenced at the top. What am I missing?!?

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [uploading pretenders]
 

Do you have the llamaBanners mod unpacked in your mod directory? There should be a file called llamaBanners.dm and a directory called llamaBanners with lots of .icon files inside.

I think it should automatically activate the correct mods for each game. Otherwise try activating it under preferences->mod preferences.

You also need CBM (conceptual balance mod) version 1.92 - I take it that worked without problems?

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [uploading pretenders]
 

Procyon- Make sure you get the mod llamabanners at http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=39989

You might be confusing llamabanners with the original streamers and standards.

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [uploading pretenders]
 

The streamers & standards linked off of llamaserver *are* llamabanners, and those are the ones I meant. I'm sorry if that caused any confusion.

I have postponed the 1st turn by an additional day in case people are still having issues. It'll still quickhost though if they don't.

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [uploading pretenders]
 

I *am* confusing llamabanners with the original. Thanks for the help. In consideration for your kindness, I will crush you last.

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [in progress]
 

The turn is in. This llamaserver is slick!

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [in progress]
 

Now it's just Caelum and Niefelheim who are being :cool: glacial.

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [in progress]
 

Maybe they took too much Sloth? ;)

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [in progress]
 

As a comparison, the 16 player anonymous in-game-diplo-only game which I joined just after this one is already on turn 7 or 8 with no stales :D

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [in progress]
 

Glacial? Well they ARE ice giants. :p

All kidding aside, I had a busy day but I'm doing my turn... RIGHT... NOW!

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [in progress]
 

peers at score graph
Let's see... awake pretender and high(ish) dominion as Niefelheim? :cold:

Also, wow does my starting location suck.

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [in progress]
 

Perhaps. Or perhaps everything about my nation, including its dominion, is simply... giant? ;)

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [in progress]
 

Heh, not exactly thrilled about mine, too. I guess the poor shall always be with us... :rolleyes:

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [in progress]
 

Dude. I will trade starting locations with ANY of you. I can't imagine a crappier starting location. Maybe underwater with my non-aquatic race would be worse.

Barely.

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [in progress]
 

Moaning about starting locations: the sport of gods.

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [in progress]
 

No one took a province turn 1. interesting. Easy to tell who has awake pretenders.

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [in progress]
 

It appears I can't send you a private message in the forums. Is there a way, other than in game, we can communicate?

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [in progress]
 

Ahm it so happens that I had forgotten to turn on private messaging. Actually, I had assumed it started activated. Anyway, now it is.

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [in progress]
 

same here :o

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [in progress]
 

:D

The sport of the pretender gods.

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [in progress]
 

I see there are victory points on the score graph. Are they being used?

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [in progress]
 

I'm pretty sure not. I think score graphs who VP whether activated or not.

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [in progress]
 

Sorry for holding everyone up. Was having issues with attachments in gmail and couldn't download my turn -- quite weird. Should be able to take the turn later tonight.

My location still really sucks. In fact, I'm willing to take bets that mine sucks more than anyone else's. :( Maybe in a few turns the complainers can compare notes?

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [in progress]
 

Just a guess... but I dont think Arco has had the best of starts...

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [in progress]
 

Should we wait for Yomi? deadline is soon.

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [in progress]
 

Arco is also run by an intellectual midget.

I am not long for this world :(

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [in progress]
 

Did someone stale? :confused:

I was hoping the longer turn duration would avoid that.

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [in progress]
 

I'm interested in your story Arco. What's been going on with you?

Re: a lEArning experience (Newbie EA CBM1.92) [in progress]
 

Yes, Arco...what did happen. Perhaps we can offer words of wisdom for the next game?