Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

In the words of Mortal Kombat narrator man,

FIGHT!


:p

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

Bella Swan, Princess of Suffering, the Man Eater, Lady of Blood, has spoken to the people of Ulm. May her dark slumber be lifted!

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

Now everybody join our gospel:

Do you hear the pipes, Cthulhu?
They were being played by shoggoths on the shores of Carcosa
Can you hear our prayers, Cthulhu?
Deep in sunken R'lyeh waiting for the rightness of a star?
Where the Deep Ones worship Dagon, Mother Hydra in sea chambers built afar?

There was chanting in the air that night
The stars were right, Cthulhu!
You were dreaming of your destiny
Beneath the sea, Cthulhu!
Though the Elder Gods have cast you down
Have no regret
As the Al-Azif has prophesized, R'lyeh will rise, Cthulhu!

We are waiting O Cthulhu
Sacrificing virgins while the nightgaunts hover 'gainst the moon
Seeking power O Cthulhu
Drawing sigils in their blood and Elder Signs and other runes
They were dying drenched in madness and the eldritch vapors of a thousand dooms

There was chanting in the air that night
The stars were right, Cthulhu!
You were dreaming of your destiny
Beneath the sea, Cthulhu!
Though the Elder Gods have cast you down
Have no regret
As the Al-Azif has prophesized, R'lyeh will rise, Cthulhu!

You are sleeping Great Cthulhu
Never knowing the unspeakable things we do in your name
But don't worry Great Cthulhu
We will carry on destroying without sanity or shame
Till the universe resounds with all the sounds of lost souls shrieking out in pain

There was chanting in the air that night
The stars were right, Cthulhu!
You were dreaming of your destiny
Beneath the sea, Cthulhu!
Though the Elder Gods have cast you down
Have no regret
As the Al-Azif has prophesized, R'lyeh will rise, Cthulhu!

As the Al-Azif has prophesized, R'lyeh will rise, Cthulhu!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_STCenzr3Y

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

What is it you seek?
A standard.
A symbol.
Perhaps on a shield.
Two snakes, coming together.
Facing each other...
... but they're one.
With a sun and a moon below.
Black sun, black moon.
Yes.

How about two snakes coming together over a black sun? A magnificent standard!
The only snakes I know of are those of Set and his cursed towers. Their evil has spread to every city. Two or three years ago it was just another snake cult, now... they're everywhere. It is said that they are deceivers... they murder people in the night... I know nothing.

http://tragicocomedia.files.wordpres...lsa-doom-1.jpg

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

Gave Caelum a 12 hour delay. However, birdmen need to turn in turns faster and not wait till near the end of hosting (its only turn 2!). We can get turns together faster than 36/48 hours this early, folks!

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [recruiting]
 

So, does it mean that a sailing nation can attack any province bordering one of these lakes? :viking:

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [recruiting]
 

Maybe. :p

It's only across one water province, anyways.

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [recruiting]
 

Thinking about it, my people have decided to rename themselves Midgarrrrrrr!
Aye aye, sir

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

Marrrrrrrignon might have something to say about that!

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

I... Request... 6-hour delay.
This work is going to kill me and multilate my corpse.

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

Still didn't managed to make a turn - was like 10 minutes late.
Well, work certainly broke my life, my soul and my fingers.

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

Terribly sorry.

I was asleep at the time so I was unable to make a second last minute extension. :(

Would someone like to volunteer to be a second host to keep track of this?

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

RC: what do you do?

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

LL: I don't mind helping out with this if you'd like.
Just let me know.
Cheers.

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

One thing might help is adding 12H to the interval. W/QH enabled that wont slow the flow of overall game a lot, but removes a hazzle a bit...

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

Yeah, it does seem to be running on a 24h turn cycle as opposed to 36, which caused me to almost miss a turn :D

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

2 questions:

- where can I find a list of forgeable items and the magic paths needed to forge them for this mod? I have one but...it's from Dominions 2! It has not changed much for Dominions 3 but the CBM 1.92 seems to be...tricky. I'm playtesting and can't find Gate Cleaver or Dwarven Hammer.

- has everybody enabled the PMing of the forums? I have encountered my first neighbor and sent him a PM to talk things straight! But no reply though he played his turn since.

And otherwise: people don't talk about the game it seems.;)

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

Dwarven hammer is unique in CBM, IIRC

the list of usefull reference material: http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showp...36&postcount=2


Sometimes not responding is PART of diplomacy or playing the role of prospect nation.

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

Vishniac: There's a CBM forging reference that comes with CBM - check out .\dominions3\mods\CB1.92 forging reference.pdf

Pretty sure the only changes of note are gemgens/hammers being made const-8 uniques.

I think the boards will start to liven up once we start encountering each other - I've only run into one neighbor thus far, and they're quite clearly insane so I've little hope of viable diplomatic communication establishing itself there.

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

Yeah, for my part, things are pretty quiet. Observed that Ti'en ch'i seems to like killing their immortal. besides that- all quiet over here.

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

:confused:

Oh, that is strange. I was certain that I set it to 36h, but apparently not.

Fixed.

As for diplomacy;

All I ever wanted, were neighbors to see,
its all I ever wanted, the wait is killing me,
that's what we are waiting, oh baby why can you see
that all I ever wanted, were neighbors to see.

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

Well, I lost one of my beloved Vans, but more particularly, an insane one !
So, something is rotten in the state of Midgard, but the stench seems to come from below the waters.
Strange times indeed....

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

Another question: on the map, we can see a number of crowns as icons.
In a former MP game, the crowns were the capital provinces of the different factions but here we are far from having 14 ones, more like 7 or 8.
So, are these crowns relevant or just some left-over from designing the map (if you see what I mean)?

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

The crowns are indicative of Victory Points (VPs), and are only relevant to gameplay if VPs are enabled as a win condition (aka, not this one).

They may or may not correlate to starting positions, but as there are more starting positions than VPs (and the start locations have been modified), you could say the same about almost any province so that point's probably moot.

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

Yep. I love killing plauge- spreading guy. Poor bastard. It's all for the better good, I promise.

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

Did he get diseased himself yet?

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

I hereby award the 'best names for commanders' award to midgard.

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

Thanks! There are more of them, though most probably won't be so famous.

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

I don't know how you are doing but I have a bad feeling.
It seems to me C'tis has an awfully slow expansion rate this game: few provinces because we are surrounded by indie heavy cavalry, no mercenaries till this turn, nobody in the Hall of Fame when guys from Gath have kills in the double digits...
Ok, I follow my plan and I'm better safe than sorry, so I don't worry too much but I was wondering...
That said, the fact that I have only met one neighbor yet makes me think that I'm not the only one experiencing a slow start.

What is the independent toughness level by the way?

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

You can check game settings by loading up your turn, clicking on 'Options', and then selecting 'View Game Settings'. In this case you'll see that indie strength is set to 5, which is default. Bear in mind that this is late age, so indies are going to have a generally better level of equipment/armor than they would in earlier ages - more heavy infantry, crossbowmen, etc.

We're playing on a fairly large map for the number of players we have (works out to 17.5 provinces per player), so most people should still have some room to expand, as well as time to recover from any initial expansion stumbles. That said, I'd be careful openly advertising strength or weakness in a game without graphs!

...unless, of course, it's a trap...

:D

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

See above. :p

As for Gath, that is to be expected. He might be running a heavy bless and using commanders and his prophet to solo provinces. Strong start if he does it right, but it does constrain his late game more with the limited paths and worse scales overall. Or he might be running a scales approach, I dunno.

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

Gath can solo provinces with just his commanders?!? :shock:
Wow! Could well be what is happening: his 2 Hall-of-famers are neither prophet nor pretender.

There are many nations in this game that I have never played and thus I know nothing about: Tien Chi / Gath / Patala / Chelms / Jomon
I really need to do my homework when I'll meet them on the ground, otherwise I'm in for some nasty surprises :hurt:

As for advertising weaknesses...I didn't give any numbers.:D

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

I'm fairly certain Gath can do it with his sacred commanders with the right bless (E9N4, or somesuch, I believe), if not with a small attachment of giants. I know their earlier counterparts (Himmon, Ashdod) can do it more or less, and other glamour/ponymen nations can pull it off with just a smidgen of research (for Vanheim/Helheim, Eriu/Tir'Na'Nog, hit alt-3 for Mistform and combine that with an E9N4 bless and you're good to go with all of them, since they can be thugged out easily). Midgard can still do this, but Vans are cap-only for them, and they have werewolves to do their expansion/mid game needs for them.

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

I don't know what is the norm here but...having a NAP with someone and watching one of his assassins trying to kill a commander of mine, well, that's not what I would call clever diplomacy.
:mad: :soap: :censor:

Someone shall learn that cheating C'tis it is courting Death itself! :haha:

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

Yeah- thats a pretty bad break of a NAP. I think you are well within your right to point out the guilty party so that we are all aware of who is willing to break their NAPs so very easily.

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

Let's stay cold-blooded! (easier for C'tis :D)

I am reluctant to do so before being 100% sure that it's really a transgression.
Launching far away spells (earthquakes, hurricanes, seeking arrows,...) during a NAP seems ok (even if the guilty party, though anonymous, is well known) so I had to ask about 'special actions' like assassinations. It seems it's not. Good!
I have to ask about the CBM 1.92 too: I never experienced such a random event as an assassination attempt in SP. That said, it wasn't written "X attacks C'tis" but "Independents attacks C'tis". I haven't enough MP experience to know whether it's the norm or not. Whatever, the assassin was typical of my neighbor's nation; a big coincidence...:rolleyes:

So, badly-timed rare event or wicked move? :smirk:

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

If the message with the assasian attempt actually said "Independents" then it was a random event, as there is a random event(s) that result in a special assasian attempt ('special' meaning no bodyguards can be used) against a random commander in the province. (check the random events list attached to Edi's signature).

If the message said "Special Monsters" then it was a remote assasian spell cast by an anonymous nation.

If the assasian was from another nation in the game then it would say "Nation A v Nation B". There is no way for a player to simulate the "Independents" message during an assasianation, so it can only be a random event if that is the case. (the same/similar assasian unit is just a coincidence)

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

Oh, so you got the ninja assassination event and are bordering Jomon? :p

It isn't connected, actually. The event is independent of Jomon. It's like the bands of Ronin which are also, while Jomon-themed, not actually caused by Jomon (besides perhaps them being in the game, but then you'd get barbarians instead probably and those are honestly worse in my opinion).

That being said, as for remotes, if you can tell who they're coming from and its being sent at you, then you are well within your rights to call them out on it as a violation.

What you do have to worry about though are those Mind Hunts when there are 4 astral nations running about. :p

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

Thanks, Calahan!

The message said:
"There was a battle in Province X (special)"
Then "Independents attack..."

So it was indeed a coincidence! Wars have begun like that! :rolleyes:
I was right to stay cautious then.
After years of playing the game SP, I don't think I have ever seen this random event targeting a lone commander.:shock:

Ok, sorry to have cast a doubt on someone. But that's the goal of the thread too: to ask questions about what's happening.
-------
Speaking of it, there's a lot happening these turns. How come nobody talks about it? For fear of losing a slight advantage? For me, discussing the game (even in general terms) is part of learning more about it.
Information is power, that's true.

Information, the first principle of warfare, must form the
foundation of all your efforts. Know, of course, thine enemy.
But in knowing him do not forget above all to know thyself.
The commander who embraces this totality of battle shall win
even with the inferior force.
-- Spartan Battle Manual

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

I'm currently trying to contact Utgard in the event this is all a giant (hehe) mistake.

If it isn't, I'm kind of annoyed since it does throw off game balance somewhat, and he should've told me so we could've grabbed a sub instead. Oh well.

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

In another MP game (valhala heroes) i lost my prophet on turn 2 or 3 to an indie assassin. It was kind of funny. I've never seen that even since then.

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

Thank god the 90% poploss event was removed for the first few years.

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

Well, I am keeping a record for thorough AAR
, but because of my particular strategy I cant start posting the entries for awhile now. Maybe not before I am out for good.

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

Out of the closet, out of the water or out of the game?
I hope it's not the latest. Seeing as everybody here and in other forums speak of LA R'lyeh as extremely dangerous, I expect you to stay with us some more time.
In fact, I'd like to fight you later...if I'm still alive :D
For the moment, you're nowhere near my shores. :happy:

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

I am not dangerous with R'lyeh - I am very bad with it.

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

Going have to give myself a postponement (since my laptop is refusing to reboot and has been in startup repair for 24 hrs as of now). I can't say for how long, unfortunately, but even if I don't get it fixed, I'll eventually get ahold of a laptop I can download Dom3 on again and convert that and any necessary files onto a flashdrive.

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

Don't know how regularly the people I replied to via in-game messages visit this thread, but seems to me that some of you may need to enable personal messages in your account options (I think it's disabled by default) for faster communication between parties.

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

... some might have chosen NOT to reply for thematic (or other, on that matter) reasons :cool: just speculating

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

Don't worry, I already know that ;). But that was my subtle way to confirm it, as I was referring to Jomon and Marignon.

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

I'm quite certain that my PMs are enabled. Perhaps your Vans lost their way in the snow before arriving to deliver your response? It is Winter, after all. It might be worth sending out a second messenger.