Re: Smiting Season (newb-intermediate, LA, CBM 1.92) submit pretenders
 

After looking at the map, I think I'd like to request a different one.

Roughly half the starting locations have only three neighbors. Such restricted choices, additionally with independents set to 7 .. makes a challenging start for bogarus.. even worse, please.

Re: Smiting Season (newb-intermediate, LA, CBM 1.92) submit pretenders
 

If a different map is to be chosen, I vote for a wrap around. No hiding in the corners and no one getting screwed because their in the middle.

Re: Smiting Season (newb-intermediate, LA, CBM 1.92) submit pretenders
 

i have to say i agree with bat/man. this is a tough map for anyone who is slightly cap dependent. But the sizing is right- i feel... otherwise this game will get really really big and unwieldy.

Re: Smiting Season (newb-intermediate, LA, CBM 1.92) submit pretenders
 

And I demand cookies... with milk!

Humor aside, I did note the start issue, but that's normally the case with most maps without a "no start" mp fix. Though honestly I have no qualms with a more luck based start generation as is the case here.

I do have a suggestion though if it's a serious enough issue for some players, I recall in a few MP games I was in (including Kindanoob), someone was kind enough to do a "no start" fix to the map. Basically selecting startable spots with as equal a footing as possible, with criteria like each start spot must have at least 4 neighbor and be spaced at 3 away from any other starting spot ...etc.

If needs must I'll volunteer to do this, though it'll be my first (preferably someone more experienced do this instead).

So Groundworm let me know, and if anyone with thoughts on the matter do voice them. I myself have no preference between a mp fixed start or a luck start approach.

Re: Smiting Season (newb-intermediate, LA, CBM 1.92) submit pretenders
 

Roaring Rhinos might fit the bill.

But i am fine if we keep this map- i feel the art is so pretty to look at.

Re: Smiting Season (newb-intermediate, LA, CBM 1.92) submit pretenders
 

I 2nd Roaring Rhinos.

Re: Smiting Season (newb-intermediate, LA, CBM 1.92) submit pretenders
 

I vote for any map that has easy access to the sea for everyone...
Is there a link to roaring rhinos? I cant find it on the llama list

Re: Smiting Season (newb-intermediate, LA, CBM 1.92) submit pretenders
 

After looking at Roaring Rhinos, I'm fine with it. To address specific concerns:

Roaring Rhinos has almost exactly the same number of provinces as Shahrivar, with almost the same distribution of land and water provinces. It shouldn't inflate the scale of the game. And it is, as requested, wrap-around. Though, after making several new games and looking at starting positions (about 25 different games), there are definitely some starting positions with only 3 adjacencies.

And I have no issue with 30h turns. Since several people have asked, I'll set turns to 30h. I've seen that done in some games, but I've always wondered: what's the advantage?

So, in sum: map is now Realm of Roaring Rhinos, and turn length will start at 30h.

Map can be downloaded here: http://z7.invisionfree.com/Dom3mods/...?showtopic=440

Re: Smiting Season (newb-intermediate, LA, CBM 1.92) submit pretenders
 

Just one problem: I was able to successfully upload the fixed version of Shahrivar on to Llamaserver, but for some reason I'm having trouble uploading Realm of Rampaging Roaches. So I haven't actually made the modifications to the game yet.

Can someone assist in uploading the map so that I can change the game settings? Much appreciated!

Re: Smiting Season (newb-intermediate, LA, CBM 1.92) submit pretenders
 

Realm of Rampaging Roaches or Realm of Roaring Rhinos?

You can't upload these maps using their original titles, as they already exist on the server under these names. Thus you have to call it a different name, but unless you are altering map from the original, there is no need to upload it on the server...as its already there.

You have a link in the game thread for players to download the map from...and you,we, and I are good to go.

I think I am right in saying this...please jump in somebody if what I said was wrong.

Cheers,

HD

Re: Smiting Season (newb-intermediate, LA, CBM 1.92) submit pretenders
 

Roaring Rhinos.

Everything you said is correct, Holey, but I have to tell llamaserver what map I'm using for the game. In order to do that, the map has to be in the list of llamaserver maps. That's what I'm having trouble with.

Re: Smiting Season (newb-intermediate, LA, CBM 1.92) submit pretenders
 

So I finally managed to submit the map to llamaserver. I hope it works.

The .map file I got when I extracted the map was called roaringrhinosfix.map. I renamed it to roaringrhinos.map, and llamaserver accepted it. Hopefully it won't crash when we try to actually run the game... I'm not sure.

Re: Smiting Season (newb-intermediate, LA, CBM 1.92) submit pretenders
 

LOL, well I put it in only to see someone beat me to the punch with a slightly different name...lol.

Houston, we are GO!

Re: Smiting Season (newb-intermediate, LA, CBM 1.92) submit pretenders
 

Grrr...

In the future rather than asking for a change at the last minute, you should maybe bring it up a little earlier.

Especially since I tested several nations and pretenders on the original map to find a combo that I liked.

By the way, I've tried the dowload link for the new map from two different computers now and it has failed to work, which probably explains why I'm a little grumpy about it.

Re: Smiting Season (newb-intermediate, LA, CBM 1.92) submit pretenders
 

Download worked fine for me.

Re: Smiting Season (newb-intermediate, LA, CBM 1.92) submit pretenders
 

I tested my pretender on the original map, but I don't see any big issue and I'm fairly indifferent as to what map we use. I calculate a baseline 11 out of 12 chance that I will lose regardless, so I defer to others.

I am however a bit unclear as to what map file I should be downloading at this point, and from where. It seems there were some problems for some folks and maybe some file renames. I'd like to test out the map a bit before we start, if someone can clarify (also do we need to change the file name or anything else?)

Thanks! Snack

Re: Smiting Season (newb-intermediate, LA, CBM 1.92) submit pretenders
 

You shouldn't need to rename anything. Use the download link I posted earlier in this thread- it worked fine for me.

Nightfall, apologies for the confusion/last minute map change. It seemed there were a significant number of people in favor of it.

Re: Smiting Season (newb-intermediate, LA, CBM 1.92) submit pretenders
 

Still can't connect to that finnish server...

Re: Smiting Season (newb-intermediate, LA, CBM 1.92) submit pretenders
 

Nightfall, you may need to have an account with that forum for the map link.

So if you don't have one, just join, the cost is minimal...its free.......

Re: Smiting Season (newb-intermediate, LA, CBM 1.92) submit pretenders
 

Glad we are switching maps. Downloaded new map with no problem. looking forward to our game!

Re: Smiting Season (newb-intermediate, LA, CBM 1.92) submit pretenders
 

Damn you snacktime! I am only computing a one in 237 chance of victory for myself, how do you rate so high? :)

Mike

Re: Smiting Season (newb-intermediate, LA, CBM 1.92) submit pretenders
 

Yeah my odds were wildly optimistic especially because I am quite sure I don't know all of the ways CBM 1.92 has changed vanilla so I look forward to planning a research path that leads to nowhere. :)

Speaking of which, is there any single document that explains the CBM changes vs. vanilla? As far as I can tell, every changelog for CBM is just listing changes from the previous CBM, but since I've been out of the loop for a while that doesn't help much especially since I find the hard-copy manual still pretty useful.

Then again maybe you would rather roll the Utgardian noob than provide info! :)

Re: Smiting Season (newb-intermediate, LA, CBM 1.92) submit pretenders
 

If you install EDM 1.21 separately and enable it (as opposed to the version that comes with CBM 1.92), it comes with a special testing feature. Start up a new game in the early age, and at the bottom of the nation selection list you'll find "Endgame Diversity Mod, testing nation". If you select this as your nation, you'll have access to every single summon available in EDM as recruitable commanders for 1g & 1 resource. This should allow you to see what they can do, at least, if not what they're actually capable of in battle. Hope this helps.

Let's try to have our pretenders submitted by Wednesday. Still waiting on Whollaborg, Bat/man, shard, and, well... me. :) Does this sound reasonable?

Re: Smiting Season (newb-intermediate, LA, CBM 1.92) submit pretenders
 

Didn't help, don't have an issue with any of the other maps on the dom3mods forum, except for the ones on that server... no idea why...

Re: Smiting Season (newb-intermediate, LA, CBM 1.92) submit pretenders
 

Nightfall,

PM someone your email address so as they can forward the map to you.

Re: Smiting Season (newb-intermediate, LA, CBM 1.92) submit pretenders
 

I will have mine in within the next few hours

Re: Smiting Season (newb-intermediate, LA, CBM 1.92) submit pretenders
 

I'll have mine in after work.

Re: Smiting Season (newb-intermediate, LA, CBM 1.92) submit pretenders
 

Just FYI, Whollaborg's is the last pretender we are waiting on to be uploaded. His last visit to the forum was 27 April.

Today is the 1st of may........

I hope I am wrong....but the maths doesn't add up to a quick start.

Re: Smiting Season (newb-intermediate, LA, CBM 1.92) submit pretenders
 

On an unrelated subject, we should probably have a paragraph in the OP on silent quitting too.

How about the one irfna used in noobswithblah:

If you want to quit mid-game for whatever reason, please allow me to find a sub! Just post and say you're done! Having someone stale out or spontaneously go AI really sucks! It's ok if you're losing and want to quit, just say so in this thread and let me find a sub!!!

Re: Smiting Season (newb-intermediate, LA, CBM 1.92) recruiting one more!
 

I've updated the original post with the new map, 30h turn duration, and clause about abandoning the game.

HoleyDooley, I was noticing Whollaborg's absence myself. If he shows up and wants to play, that's fine with me, but I've opened the game up for one more slot. If he doesn't show up or we don't get any interest in the next day, I'll start the game tomorrow and we'll just play with 11.

Oh, and thanks to everyone for your thoughts and contributions, as well as your patience. I'm looking forward to playing with you all. :)

Re: Smiting Season (newb-intermediate, LA, CBM 1.92) recruiting one more!
 

I would be interested - Ulm seems ok for me.

Re: Smiting Season (newb-intermediate, LA, CBM 1.92) recruiting one more!
 

Sorry - Ulm already taken - Arco then...

Re: Smiting Season (newb-intermediate, LA, CBM 1.92) recruiting one more!
 

What's your MP experience like, Schoelle? Have you played in a couple of games?

Re: Smiting Season (newb-intermediate, LA, CBM 1.92) recruiting one more!
 

I have played a number of games, yes - but just one since I reactivated my game a couple of weeks ago. Never was the heavy duty player, though - I try to win, but I do not make a science out of it.

Re: Smiting Season (newb-intermediate, LA, CBM 1.92) recruiting one more!
 

Just making sure you basically know the game and can hold your own. Welcome aboard! We're back up to 12. No rush, Schoelle, but the game will start once you submit your pretender.

Re: Smiting Season (newb-intermediate, LA, CBM 1.92) recruiting one more!
 

Last question: is it ok if I choose from any of the remaining nations? I would like to run some smaller experiments - I should have a pretender in an hour or so ...

Re: Smiting Season (newb-intermediate, LA, CBM 1.92) recruiting one more!
 

Yes, that's fine. Any except Ermor or R'lyeh. Just post your choice so we know who we're fighting.

Re: Smiting Season (newb-intermediate, LA, CBM 1.92) recruiting one more!
 

Hellooo

I don't know about arco - but I think I'm the last to post up a pretender. As I said a few hours ago, I'll do so when I get home after work, which is around midnight EST.

Bat/man
aka: Bogarus.

Edit: And now I can't upload the pretender. Groundworm, can you restart it as I signed up for this game(#5).

Re: Smiting Season (newb-intermediate, LA, CBM 1.92) recruiting one more!
 

Gentle beginnings

sunset signals first turn sent

glory is my fate

-Li Boh

Re: Smiting Season (newb-intermediate, LA, CBM 1.92) recruiting one more!
 

Well don't be surprised there is a restart!

Not Groundworm's fault though, but seems we have a hijacker or possibly two.

There are submissions for Chelm and Mictlan but no one owning them on the first post. One could be scholle, though he hasn't stated if he has submitted his nation yet, as requested.

Batman of course hasn't submitted his yet, but the game has started.....
thus I can see a restart, and hopefully we can banish either or both of Chelm/Mictlan if they are not supposed to be in this game.

Re: Smiting Season (newb-intermediate, LA, CBM 1.92) recruiting one more!
 

Ug.

On page 4, you can see that Cyborg Killer tried to sign up as La-Man, and Ragnarok as abysia.

But they never got acknowledged on page1.. and several people joined thereafter.

Re: Smiting Season (newb-intermediate, LA, CBM 1.92) recruiting one more!
 

I could've swore that Man (Chelms) was on the OP list before, I'm totally confused now as to who is whom.

Mictlan looks like a mystery entry to me.

I'm fine either keeping this game or restarting, only that it needs to be decided which in the first 2 turns.

Also might want to do an admin e-mail all while getting a reply on the mystery players, otherwise we can't do diplo with them at all.

Ah, I remember the responsibilities of being an admin fondly, thanks Groundworm ;)

Re: Smiting Season (newb-intermediate, LA, CBM 1.92) recruiting one more!
 

same.

cheers groundworm.

Re: Smiting Season (newb-intermediate, LA, CBM 1.92) recruiting one more!
 

Just read through and realized that bat/man's spot has been usurped (brain fart). Definitely a restart

I checked my excel game file which has a list of players and race signed up and Man (chelms) seems to be on the list (also in my MP simulation game). I'll post up the race list / player I have once I get home just for reference.

Re: Smiting Season (newb-intermediate, LA, CBM 1.92) recruiting one more!
 

I was going to post about this re: who are Man and Mictlan supposed to be, and why isn't Bogarus listed? But I see I was beaten to the punch.

We will definitely restart the game- I will take the game off of Llamaserver now. Before I put it up again, I would like 2 pieces of information:

1) what nation is Schoelle playing?
2) who signed up as Man (Chelms)? Reason I'm asking is because you're not supposed to be in this game.

Apologies to Bat/man for his spot being usurped. Once we get the 2 above issues resolved, we can restart.

Re: Smiting Season (newb-intermediate, LA, CBM 1.92) recruiting one more!
 

Good job Groundworm....the joys of being an admin.

Re: Smiting Season (newb-intermediate, LA, CBM 1.92) recruiting one more!
 

Chelm is me - switched from Arco. Mictlan seems to be the culprit.

Re: Smiting Season (newb-intermediate, LA, CBM 1.92) recruiting one more!
 

Excellent! Thanks, schoelle!

The game has now been relegated to the "waiting for pretenders" stage. I booted Mictlan's pretender; all the rest of ours should be good. Bat/man, please submit your pretender when you get the chance, and the *actual* game can get started!

decourcy: looking forward to another first-turn haiku from Li Boh. :)

Re: Smiting Season (newb-intermediate, LA, CBM 1.92) recruiting one more!
 

Sorry,

Particularly nasty flu took me out for couple of days but I could be able to submit a pretender rather soon if you still accept me.

Re: Smiting Season (newb-intermediate, LA, CBM 1.92) recruiting one more!
 

Understandable, Whollaborg. Since you're still interested and were one of the first in the game (and Arco is still unclaimed), I'm making an administrative decision to expand the game to 13 players.

Hope no one objects. It lowers provinces/player exclusive of water provs from just over 14 to exactly 13. The game just got a little more cutthroat, but it shouldn't make that much of a difference in the end.