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Anaconda May 18th, 2012 08:23 AM

Re: LA game "Songs Dead Men Sing" [ the game started ]
 
If this is the case we really should.

However, there might be a problem: the map has fixed starts for 10 (non-water) so R'lyeh WILL appear randomly close some1. How close, I dont know. We could ask Calahan mod us a map with fixed starts for 10+1? (I think this current map's fixed starts were his handwriting already...?)

Calahan May 18th, 2012 09:06 AM

Re: LA game "Songs Dead Men Sing" [ the game started ]
 
I thought there was a 10+1 Rusty Nails map on the llamaserver, as I uploaded it for a game around ~18 months ago. But having just looked for it I can't seem to find it in the map list. Odd. (I might have named the map after the name of the game. Need to find the game I used it for)

I can upload this 10+1 Rusty Nails map for you if you want me to (fairly sure I still have it), or I can post the files here for you to do it. All depends if you have VP marked capitals or not, as if you do I'll just post the files since no point keeping start locations secret if they're marked anyway. But if capitals are not VP marked then if I upload the map the capitals will have to be found in-game. In which case I'll just post the image file rather than the image and .map file. (although I'll check first before posting the image file, as it might be exactly the same one you have already meaning you don't need to download a new one)

Rusty Nails is a tight map for a water nation though, so the best you will get is R'yleh's cap being one province away from a land nations (so X-1-Y). Which of course is better than directly adjacent, but it's impossible to get more distance than that as some land nations need to start on the coast line otherwise the land nations start becoming too close (space for capital placement on a wraparound is always harder to find than a non-wrap), and maps without coast starts will mess up for some games if certain nations are present.

Let me know.

Anaconda May 18th, 2012 10:10 AM

Re: LA game "Songs Dead Men Sing" [ the game started ]
 
We dont have VP capitals, so please if you could, would you upload the needed map...?

Calahan May 18th, 2012 11:32 AM

Re: LA game "Songs Dead Men Sing" [ the game started ]
 
I've just taken a look at the map and it looks like the Water nation will only have 10 provinces connected to his start location. As the two provinces at 56+64 are not connected to the main area of water.

Some options are...

1 - Use the map anyway.
2 - Find another map.
3 - Connect the two isolated water provinces to the main water provinces. If you go for this option then...
3a - Ignore the fact the map image will not make sense (as there are no rivers connecting the two provinces you will be joining up)
3b - Edit the image to add rivers to show the new connections.
4 - Find another land player and switch to either GreeceStain or Realm of Rhinos map (which are a better fit for a Water nation IMO. I have versions of both these maps for 11+1)
5 - Something else I haven't thought of.

I'm happy to help with any of the above, and can probably do any of them more or less straight away. Apart from that is 3b as that will take me a bit of time. Time which I'm unlikely to have until late on Sunday (I have zero talent when it comes to using image editing programs so quick image edits always take me more time than it should.)

Anaconda May 18th, 2012 02:17 PM

Re: LA game "Songs Dead Men Sing" [ the game started ]
 
Guys, how about Rhinos?

As Calahan said, we should get one more and Soyweiser expressed his interest before in joining us b/c it's his Zombies! -mod we are using?

So I ask him again and we use larger map (Rhinos)?
Or?
R'lyeh, what you say?

Ragnarok-X May 18th, 2012 02:41 PM

Re: LA game "Songs Dead Men Sing" [ the game started ]
 
bummer. i dont mind whatever we do.

Jolly Roger May 18th, 2012 03:24 PM

Re: LA game "Songs Dead Men Sing" [ the game started ]
 
Everything is fine with me, in case there are forests for my Pangaeans.....:D

Reverend Zombie May 18th, 2012 04:06 PM

Re: LA game "Songs Dead Men Sing" [ the game started ]
 
I'm all for Rhinos.

Calahan May 18th, 2012 05:51 PM

Re: LA game "Songs Dead Men Sing" [ the game started ]
 
If you end up going for Rhinos, and in case I'm not around much tomorrow, the 11 Land + 1 Water version I've done of that map is already on the llamaserver (it's currently 5 from bottom at time of writing), and here is the download link to the image you will need. (as I've made some changes to the original image)

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showpost.php?p=804192

Not sure if it's 100% bug free as it's still very early in its first MP game right now. No bugs reported so far though. The map is based on the 'fixed' version of the Rhinos map, so hopefully there are no bugs left in it. I checked all the connections and they all seem as they should be, so if any errors are there then they are likely to be missing terrain tags. Although certainly not impossible for a connection error to have crept through the net, but I hope not.

HoleyDooley May 18th, 2012 08:01 PM

Re: LA game "Songs Dead Men Sing" [ the game started ]
 
Go Rhinos!

Anaconda May 19th, 2012 01:56 AM

Re: LA game "Songs Dead Men Sing" [ the game started ]
 
I contacted Soy. If hes up to it, we take him. If not, well just find some1 else. Now creating a new game...

Anaconda May 19th, 2012 02:09 AM

Re: LA game "Songs Dead Men Sing" [ the game started ]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Anaconda (Post 804815)
I contacted Soy. If hes up to it, we take him. If not, well just find some1 else. Now creating a new game...

I lied. No new game needed. Old pretenders will do, also. We just wait a green from Soy or recruit another player if his not up to this.

YOU CAN, if willing, alter your pretender at this point.

AND you NEED to download the new map. Updating the OP right after this one.

And Calahan, thank you!!!11

Anaconda May 19th, 2012 08:41 AM

Re: "Songs Dead Men Sing" [ RE-STARTING, changing the map ]
 
So theres one slot open, first come first served!

Anaconda May 20th, 2012 11:13 AM

Re: "Songs Dead Men Sing" [ need one MOAR players ]
 
Bump, one moar needed!

CyborgKillerMonster May 20th, 2012 04:23 PM

Re: "Songs Dead Men Sing" [ RE-STARTING, ONE SLOT OPEN ]
 
May i play?

Mars76 May 21st, 2012 01:09 AM

Re: "Songs Dead Men Sing" [ RE-STARTING, ONE SLOT OPEN ]
 
I'm in if you need a punching bag.

Anaconda May 21st, 2012 02:51 AM

Re: "Songs Dead Men Sing" [ RE-STARTING, ONE SLOT OPEN ]
 
CyborgKillerMonster, you were first so wellcome. Mars76, I hope you can fit in next time!

CyborgKillerMonster May 21st, 2012 05:37 AM

Re: "Songs Dead Men Sing" [ RE-STARTING, ONE SLOT OPEN ]
 
I`ll play Man.

Anaconda May 21st, 2012 01:24 PM

Re: "Songs Dead Men Sing" [ GAME STARTING, finally! ]
 
Just send in your character when ready.

Ragnarok-X May 21st, 2012 04:13 PM

Re: "Songs Dead Men Sing" [ GAME STARTING, finally! ]
 
yay so we can start again !

Vishniac May 28th, 2012 06:58 AM

Re: "Songs Dead Men Sing" [ GAME STARTING, finally! ]
 
I should pay more attention: I only just noticed that Ermor didn't make it to the final selection...:o

So, who will profit the most from the Zombie Mod now: C'tis, Ulm, Atlantis and Agartha if I'm not mistaken?

Anaconda May 28th, 2012 04:35 PM

Re: "Songs Dead Men Sing" [ GAME STARTING, finally! ]
 
I think its good Ermor aint with us.

If I understood it correctly, Soyweiser said he is not completely sure how this mod affects the MP game but soulless spam and arouse hunger should be valid choises. This means all with easy access to D got some additional edge.

Mightypeon May 29th, 2012 06:04 PM

Re: "Songs Dead Men Sing" [ GAME STARTING, finally! ]
 
And I actually took Mari to give the living world a chance :)

Anaconda May 31st, 2012 02:03 PM

Re: "Songs Dead Men Sing" [ GAME STARTING, finally! ]
 
Turn 10 and no stales at all! Nice

P3D June 1st, 2012 03:36 PM

Re: "Songs Dead Men Sing" [ GAME STARTING, finally! ]
 
I need 24h extension for the next turn, I will be traveling.

Vishniac June 2nd, 2012 01:41 PM

Re: "Songs Dead Men Sing" [ GAME STARTING, finally! ]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Anaconda (Post 805623)
Turn 10 and no stales at all! Nice

Is it really so unusual?
I'm a newcomer on these forums but I feel very motivated (turn 25 in Blood Sacrifices) to play my turns, planning them in my head during my work. Are stalling or turning AI without warning so widespread here?

Mightypeon June 3rd, 2012 03:19 AM

Re: "Songs Dead Men Sing" [ GAME STARTING, finally! ]
 
Stalling can happen on 24 hours schedules quite frequently, going AI without warning is rare though.

Anaconda June 3rd, 2012 03:26 AM

Re: "Songs Dead Men Sing" [ GAME STARTING, finally! ]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mightypeon (Post 805783)
Stalling can happen on 24 hours schedules quite frequently, going AI without warning is rare though.

Yea, fast-paced beginning calls for unintended stalls. We are doing very good, kudos to our fine and eloquent player base.

mattyburn7 June 3rd, 2012 09:53 AM

Re: "Songs Dead Men Sing" [ GAME STARTING, finally! ]
 
Wow. First Time I've ever been called fine and eloquent!

Jolly Roger June 3rd, 2012 10:14 AM

Re: "Songs Dead Men Sing" [ GAME STARTING, finally! ]
 
You deserve it my friend !:up:

Regards,

Klaus

Mightypeon June 5th, 2012 08:13 PM

Re: "Songs Dead Men Sing" [ GAME STARTING, finally! ]
 
You are watching: Loreal news, Marignon Fashion news that really matter!

Breaking news! Man is apperantly holding a suprise party at Bogarus Capital! We do not know how Bogarus will react to this suprise self invitation, Man currently attempts to gain fans with free applications of long range accupuncture, but we dont quite know if this is overly popular with the people of Bogarus that are more into new age than into traditional chinese medicine, we have no idea why Man is suddenly interested in accupuncturing people, perhaps they conquered Tien Chi when nobody was looking...

Meanwhile, Loreals shares are further up! After having struck two excellent Shampoo providing deals with 2 immortal neighbouring pretenders, Marignon has no reason to be out of buisness any time soon!

Stay tuned for more updates from Loreal newscorp, the scout network that just cant shut their mouth!

mattyburn7 June 5th, 2012 08:47 PM

Re: "Songs Dead Men Sing" [ GAME STARTING, finally! ]
 
Ah yes, but tis ashame. Man ran away faster than he came. Tis ashame. My welcoming committee was just arriving. Ah well, perhaps a party in Man's capital will be more fun!

Anaconda June 6th, 2012 10:58 AM

Re: "Songs Dead Men Sing" [ GAME STARTING, finally! ]
 
What do you say if we increase hosting interval up to 48H starting from the turn 20 latest?

Vishniac June 6th, 2012 01:18 PM

Re: "Songs Dead Men Sing" [ GAME STARTING, finally! ]
 
A good idea.
Next two weeks, I'll have business travels. That disrupts a little my playing pattern.

Ragnarok-X June 6th, 2012 01:25 PM

Re: "Songs Dead Men Sing" [ GAME STARTING, finally! ]
 
Man, the apes really want Shampoo for the fur, but Loreal refuses to deliver any. How can this be fixed ? The big apes are breaking down their huts in rage already. Is this an embargo ?

Vishniac June 6th, 2012 04:25 PM

Re: "Songs Dead Men Sing" [ GAME STARTING, finally! ]
 
To whom it may concern:
http://forums.nvmmc.com/images/smilies/sparta1.gif

Mightypeon June 6th, 2012 07:19 PM

Re: "Songs Dead Men Sing" [ GAME STARTING, finally! ]
 
Considering the "Embargo" we are a bit at a loss as precisly why you would want this precise province.
It also seems that Ape leadership is currently playing Quake! That game is really popular close and in Man I hear! You propably cant play long range accupuncture all day without getting bored after all!

Anaconda June 7th, 2012 04:02 AM

Re: "Songs Dead Men Sing" [ GAME STARTING, finally! ]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Vishniac (Post 806009)

Wellcome to Hot Gates!

Ragnarok-X June 7th, 2012 05:15 AM

Re: "Songs Dead Men Sing" [ GAME STARTING, finally! ]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mightypeon (Post 806018)
Considering the "Embargo" we are a bit at a loss as precisly why you would want this precise province.
It also seems that Ape leadership is currently playing Quake! That game is really popular close and in Man I hear! You propably cant play long range accupuncture all day without getting bored after all!

Oh might this be an misunderstanding ? I asked for Graveyard of Rhinos only for flavour reason (name) and my talk about apes wanting shampoo has nothing to do with the province. Im just chiming in on the trashtalk.
I now see why you would mass your army, but there is really no reason (in my eyes).

Ragnarok-X June 7th, 2012 12:39 PM

Re: "Songs Dead Men Sing" [ GAME STARTING, finally! ]
 
Ill be out until Sunday evening. Please turn off the autoresolve until then.

Anaconda June 7th, 2012 01:39 PM

Re: "Songs Dead Men Sing" [ GAME STARTING, finally! ]
 
Host delayed. It cant be turned off, I think. Turning quickhost off wont help either.

Jolly Roger June 8th, 2012 12:58 PM

Re: "Songs Dead Men Sing" [ GAME STARTING, finally! ]
 
Hi.

I know that´s a pain in the ***, but I´ve just received a message I have to speak on a congress in Prague, means I´ll be out of town from Thursday (14th) morning to Saturday(16th) late in the evening.
So I could continue on Sunday morning (GMT).:doh:

Sorry, hope that´s not too annoying. The good message is I´ll be available without any break until the 11th of August.:D

Regards, Klaus

Anaconda June 8th, 2012 02:16 PM

Re: "Songs Dead Men Sing" [ GAME STARTING, finally! ]
 
Thats fine, I am sure! Thu-Sat aint that long of a delay. Let us just get few quick ones in between Mon-Thu.

Jolly Roger June 8th, 2012 02:31 PM

Re: "Songs Dead Men Sing" [ GAME STARTING, finally! ]
 
Thanks !

That´s much appreciated.

Regards, Klaus

Anaconda June 12th, 2012 02:14 AM

Re: "Songs Dead Men Sing" [ GAME STARTING, finally! ]
 
I staled because server didnt heed to my efforts of delaying the host.

Jolly Roger June 13th, 2012 04:52 PM

Re: "Songs Dead Men Sing" [ GAME STARTING, finally! ]
 
Please don´t forget, I need a time out, as I´m in Prague until Sunday. Can´t play the next turn before Sunday GMT 12:00.

Thanks, Klaus

Anaconda June 13th, 2012 04:55 PM

Re: "Songs Dead Men Sing" [ GAME STARTING, finally! ]
 
I shall remember!

Mightypeon June 14th, 2012 12:27 AM

Re: "Songs Dead Men Sing" [ GAME STARTING, finally! ]
 
I need a delay of about 6 hours.

Anaconda June 14th, 2012 04:24 PM

Re: "Songs Dead Men Sing" [ GAME STARTING, finally! ]
 
Postponed until monday.

But there is a bigger problem that most likely prevents me from playing. Random hero Uru'gullu crashes the game when trying to manipulate army composition. IN EVERY SINGLE PROVINCE HE HAS BEEN. And ofc he appeared first at the gates of my seat of power...

Ragnarok-X June 14th, 2012 04:41 PM

Re: "Songs Dead Men Sing" [ GAME STARTING, finally! ]
 
Wow. I never heard of anything like that ?
That would be very, very aweful.

EDIT: Maybe you can upload the savegame and PM, i will check it out. We arent enemies, so no worries. I would hate to see you leave.

EDIT2: According to my intel, you might be missing the according unit sprites for the guys your hero summons. Check the mod files for the hero and check with units he spawns. Then check to which sprites this units refer and check if you have the sprite. If you want, PM me, and i will archive up a fixed folder for you. In that case, PM the savegame to me.


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