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brxbrx June 30th, 2012 01:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Fantomen (Post 807370)
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Originally Posted by Bat/man (Post 807358)
Its hardly a strawman to say you might be right.
Yes it is. It's a strawman to question whether I'm right or not, rather than test it first and confirm that I'm right. A way to stale the discussion by insinuating your opponent might not know what she's talking about, in lack of proper arguments of your own. In other words, a strawman.

You can assume I test things before answering, because otherwise I'll write out clearly that I'm not sure.
No, a strawman is a similar but purposefully flawed version of an opponent's argument that is easier to defeat.
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Strawman

Fantomen June 30th, 2012 09:42 AM
Re: Blood SCs
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by brxbrx (Post 807413)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fantomen (Post 807370)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bat/man (Post 807358)
Its hardly a strawman to say you might be right.
Yes it is. It's a strawman to question whether I'm right or not, rather than test it first and confirm that I'm right. A way to stale the discussion by insinuating your opponent might not know what she's talking about, in lack of proper arguments of your own. In other words, a strawman.

You can assume I test things before answering, because otherwise I'll write out clearly that I'm not sure.
No, a strawman is a similar but purposefully flawed version of an opponent's argument that is easier to defeat.
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Strawman
Exactly. I presented a confirmed fact about communion mechanics, and bat/man answered as if I was just guessing, in other words; a similar but purposefully flawed version of my argument. A strawman.

momfreeek June 30th, 2012 10:36 AM
Re: Blood SCs
 
His doubt in your tests is his position, not a misrepresentation of yours.

I didn't see him acuse you of "guessing" but I suspect you're not trying to intentionally misrepresent him, perhaps you just misunderstood.


edit: I was following the thread but it seems to have lost its way somewhat.. sry if my contribution is not helpful.

Fantomen July 4th, 2012 06:22 AM
Re: Blood SCs
 
His "doubts" was not in my tests but in whether I had tested it.

momfreeek July 4th, 2012 07:08 AM
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Yeah, but you didn't tell him you had tested until AFTER you acused him of creating a strawman. How is he misrepresenting your position if you never even told him that position?

He did NOT acuse you of guessing. He didn't know either way and he didn't say either way. You misrepresented him.

momfreeek July 6th, 2012 01:52 PM
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Just in case you *still* don't realise what you did here Fantomen:

YOU created a strawman (you clearly misrepresented ChrisP's position) and used this illusion to acuse him of creating a strawman (he didn't).

Hypocrisy (shock horror >>)

I won't assume it was a dirty trap, I think you didn't really understand what you were doing. Best not to throw rude accusations around so freely..

Fantomen July 6th, 2012 03:41 PM
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You didn't get why i called it a strawman in the first case, or else you're pretending like it. Just like chrispedersen pretended like there was anything to doubt. You're not talking to me, just satisfying some sick obsession.

momfreeek July 6th, 2012 03:48 PM
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why did you call it a strawman? You didn't tell him you had tested or that it was a "confirmed fact", why do you expect him to believe these things? Even if you HAD told him its not a strawman to doubt you.

I'm not interested in sick obsessions, I don't know why you are so intent on attacking this guy.

brxbrx July 6th, 2012 07:54 PM
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How about we abandon this thread and its arguments altogether? Just let it go. There is nothing to gain here any longer.

momfreeek July 6th, 2012 09:38 PM
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I'm sry I brought it up again, I lost my temper


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