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Soyweiser July 3rd, 2012 06:57 PM

Re: The Joys of Overzealous Mods
 
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Originally Posted by rdonj (Post 807729)
Let's not forget about racist comments made by shrapnel staff, either.

Gonna need proof of that there mister.

Also, following my own personal rules. I'm gonna overlook it if they apologized for it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TimBrooks
Since 1999 Shrapnel Games has been the Internet destination of choice for the discriminating strategy gamer.

(I'm pulling that quote totally out of context btw).

momfreeek July 3rd, 2012 06:58 PM

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lol, sextuplet post! You shoudl get a prize

Admiral_Aorta July 3rd, 2012 07:03 PM

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Gonna need proof of that there mister.
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/blog.php?b=438

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Watch, in a couple of years some unit is going to be wiped out by a bunch of fuzzy wuzzies with spears.

Executor July 3rd, 2012 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter Ebbesen (Post 807661)
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A permanent ban can be applied for any reason and at any time if the Admins determine it is warranted to promote the harmony of the community.

Sorry, but I couldn't skip over this utter nonsense. And banning Calahan, one of the most contributing members of what is left of this degenerating forum is promoting harmony in which way exactly?
From what I see all you've managed to do is piss off a lot of people. You'll doubtlessly piss off even more when Strider, Anette or whoever shows up here to "promote some more harmony" I recon.
And that "harmony" will result in more people getting banned (maybe myself, soy, admiral aorta...) and more people leaving the forum. :up::up::up:

Gandalf Parker July 3rd, 2012 07:10 PM

Re: The Joys of Overzealous Mods
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Admiral_Aorta (Post 807732)
Quote:

Gonna need proof of that there mister.
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/blog.php?b=438

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Watch, in a couple of years some unit is going to be wiped out by a bunch of fuzzy wuzzies with spears.

Ive been wondering where the reoccurring claim was coming from also...
Hmmmm..... I doubt very much that he has come into contact with Hadendoa natives
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadendoa
so Id suspect the more common source of Rudyard Kiplings poem
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuzzy-Wuzzy
which praised them for breaking the famed British bayonet square using nothing but spears.
Seems like a reasonable grognard reference to the conversation that was going on.

Soyweiser July 3rd, 2012 07:15 PM

Re: The Joys of Overzealous Mods
 
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Originally Posted by momfreeek (Post 807731)
lol, sextuplet post! You should get a prize

I'm afraid I might get it :D.

Admiral_Aorta July 3rd, 2012 07:16 PM

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he referenced a poem by someone who was also racist! that makes it totally fine

Soyweiser July 3rd, 2012 07:30 PM

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http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/146100.html
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A derogatory term for a black person, especially one with fuzzy hair.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...=fuzzy%20wuzzy

But apprantly, fuzzy wuzzy is also part of the US defense language (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lanchester%27s_laws). So it is more unintended racism.

I'm going to allow it. If Krol promises to not use the term anymore.

Also, lets stop this line of reasoning. It isn't related to the banning of Calahan.

(And it all these conversations distract me from my blitz).

momfreeek July 3rd, 2012 07:37 PM

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So, what I want to know: was Valerius correct?
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Originally Posted by Valerius (Post 807570)
My best guess is that it was because of his sig, which I note has disappeared from his posts. Honestly I think there could have been a compromise position here, remove the reference to any individual (which may conflict with Shrapnel rules) and leave it generic. Something along the lines of "because the people here are dumb-asses I prefer to discuss the game at Dom3mods."


Executor July 3rd, 2012 07:57 PM

Re: The Joys of Overzealous Mods
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gandalf Parker (Post 807734)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Admiral_Aorta (Post 807732)
Quote:

Gonna need proof of that there mister.
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/blog.php?b=438

Quote:

Watch, in a couple of years some unit is going to be wiped out by a bunch of fuzzy wuzzies with spears.

Ive been wondering where the reoccurring claim was coming from also...
Hmmmm..... I doubt very much that he has come into contact with Hadendoa natives
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadendoa
so Id suspect the more common source of Rudyard Kiplings poem
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuzzy-Wuzzy
which praised them for breaking the famed British bayonet square using nothing but spears.
Seems like a reasonable grognard reference to the conversation that was going on.

Wir müssen die Juden ausrotten!

I guess referencing something like this is perfectly acceptable here than?
I don't see how your argument caries any weight.

momfreeek July 3rd, 2012 08:07 PM

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PC blunder vs genocidal hatred.

Mismatched characterizations just look ridiculous :/

Foodstamp July 3rd, 2012 08:09 PM

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More tears to fuel the Ermor war machine.

Executor July 3rd, 2012 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by momfreeek (Post 807744)
PC blunder vs genocidal hatred.

Mismatched characterizations just look ridiculous :/

Ridiculous. I agree. Mismatched? Perhaps. But both are rules violations from what I see.

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Do not post any material which is knowingly false, and or defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, hateful, harassing, racist, obscene, threatening, invasive of a person's privacy, or encourages conduct that would constitute a criminal offense, give rise to civil liability, or that otherwise violates any local, state, national or international law or regulation.
Rules are rules.

momfreeek July 3rd, 2012 08:33 PM

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Rules are not rules!

No wait, you are right. Damn you're good ^^

ok, sry I'm just being silly now. I'll stop posting

Soyweiser July 3rd, 2012 09:45 PM

Re: The Joys of Overzealous Mods
 
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Originally Posted by momfreeek (Post 807744)
PC blunder vs genocidal hatred.

Mismatched characterizations just look ridiculous :/

Racism is racism. The minor PC blunders do add up. Esp if the person in question just ignores the offence.

Edit:

But really:
NOT THE ISSUE HERE.

If you want to make something out of this, post it in the general shrapnel forum. This isn't related to dom3 or dom3 community.

momfreeek July 3rd, 2012 10:09 PM

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how many minor PC blunders add up to genocidal hatred? >>

edit: sry cant help myself

jimbojones1971 July 3rd, 2012 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Gandalf Parker (Post 807704)
Kindof like being irritated at the neighbors cat always crapping on your lawn, then one day shooting it? Its not hard to agree that its a bad thing.

Tangent time! :-)

In my case, it is the neighbor's dogs. I kinda like the dogs, but am not interested in doing the jail time associated with geeking the neighbor. It sure is a puzzler. I suppose I could cr*p on the neighbor's lawn one night, but that requires a lot of effort and also the risk of frost bite to exposed posterior bits. :confused:

rdonj July 3rd, 2012 10:42 PM

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Buy fake poop and rub some mud onto it. Should get the idea across without risking your posterior region.

brxbrx July 3rd, 2012 10:48 PM

Re: The Joys of Overzealous Mods
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gandalf Parker (Post 807734)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Admiral_Aorta (Post 807732)
Quote:

Gonna need proof of that there mister.
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/blog.php?b=438

Quote:

Watch, in a couple of years some unit is going to be wiped out by a bunch of fuzzy wuzzies with spears.

Ive been wondering where the reoccurring claim was coming from also...
Hmmmm..... I doubt very much that he has come into contact with Hadendoa natives
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadendoa
so Id suspect the more common source of Rudyard Kiplings poem
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuzzy-Wuzzy
which praised them for breaking the famed British bayonet square using nothing but spears.
Seems like a reasonable grognard reference to the conversation that was going on.

A little bit "noble savage" style condescension, but certainly not malicious or overtly detestable.

Executor July 3rd, 2012 11:09 PM

Re: The Joys of Overzealous Mods
 
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Originally Posted by momfreeek (Post 807762)
how many minor PC blunders add up to genocidal hatred? >>

edit: sry cant help myself

What's there to add up exactly? I don't see your point.
What he said is in violation with their own moral conduct rules.
Clearly there are people who consider that post offensive, condescending, racist or whatever.

momfreeek July 3rd, 2012 11:48 PM

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Sure, lets summarise all the opinions:
- gandalf calls it "a poem by rudyard kipling"
- soy calls it "US defense language"
- Executor compares it to nazi propoganda
- I call it "a minor PC blunder"
- brxbrx calls it '"noble savage" style condescension'
- half of us consider it racism
See what you did there? You left the realm of serious discussion.


Ok, so Calahan put a link to a porn site in his sig.

Executor July 4th, 2012 12:49 AM

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I'm not comparing it to anything.
If such statements, which like I said people clearly mark racist or whatever, are okay solely by being based on references (Gandalfs comment) than any other reference that is as well in conflict with said moral conducts should in fact be considered okay. Otherwise I call double standards on Shrapnel.
Nazies are just an absurd example.

EDIT; Not that that particular comment has anything to do with Kipling.

Anaconda July 4th, 2012 01:19 AM

Re: The Joys of Overzealous Mods
 
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Originally Posted by Soyweiser (Post 807725)
Yeah, you might also want to read the rest of his works, about security theatre, rules that do not work, transparency. Etc.

I have.

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Originally Posted by Soyweiser (Post 807725)
(ow, and right, I was creating a strawman or something with my question... ;) )

So you say...

Admiral_Aorta July 4th, 2012 01:24 AM

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- half of us consider it racism
what does this say about the other half, i wonder

brxbrx July 4th, 2012 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Admiral_Aorta (Post 807781)
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- half of us consider it racism
what does this say about the other half, i wonder

Most likely that they are unaware of the ramifications of certain words and the impact of their use. It could also mean that they are in fact racist, but it's better to assume the first

Admiral_Aorta July 4th, 2012 04:50 AM

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Ok, so Calahan put a link to a porn site in his sig.
lol nope, nice try

Fantomen July 4th, 2012 06:04 AM

Re: The Joys of Overzealous Mods
 
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Originally Posted by momfreeek (Post 807716)
How is that hypocrisy? Do shrapnel post swear words?

Thats the third time I've seen you make a completely false accusation in almost as many posts. At least learn the words, there's no dignity in being a rude guy thats always wrong ^^

You don't have a sense of humor lying around somewhere? I consider ALL censorship hypocrisy, especially automated censorship. That's my opinion, so it cannot be factually wrong. I could explain why I hold this position but why bother, it's boring to explain the obvious and everyone smart enough can figure it out by themselves. And I'm not a guy, it's getting tired of the default masculinum that makes me use a picture of myself as avatar, but I guess that's not obvious enough.

I assume whatever other post you're referring to being a similar case.

momfreeek July 4th, 2012 06:25 AM

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I apologise. 1 out of 3 for correctness and 3 out of 3 for rudeness. I don't see your avatar.. maybe I turned them off or smthing.

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Originally Posted by Admiral_Aorta (Post 807794)
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Ok, so Calahan put a link to a porn site in his sig.
lol nope, nice try

yah, nice troll. Well he has posted a rough facsimile now so at least my idle curiosity is sated ^^

parone July 4th, 2012 06:26 AM

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your name is fantoMEN. i think that is why people incorrectly think you might be a guy.

i am totally with you on cencorship(except swear words in elementary schools-im pro censorship there)

Fantomen July 4th, 2012 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by parone (Post 807804)
your name is fantoMEN. i think that is why people incorrectly think you might be a guy.

i am totally with you on cencorship(except swear words in elementary schools-im pro censorship there)

Fan-to-men, that breakdown should statistically make me a woman 9 times of 10 and gay male 1 out of 10, the slightly ironic truth is that I'm a lesbian.

Executor July 4th, 2012 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by parone (Post 807804)
your name is fan-toMEN.

Seriously dude?:)
How did you not see that? You break the last word out but don't stop to wonder what the heck it all means.

Soyweiser July 4th, 2012 07:12 AM

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Did you know, the ****ake mushroom also has medical properties.

brxbrx July 4th, 2012 07:39 AM

Re: The Joys of Overzealous Mods
 
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Originally Posted by parone (Post 807804)
your name is fantoMEN. i think that is why people incorrectly think you might be a guy.

i am totally with you on cencorship(except swear words in elementary schools-im pro censorship there)

I've gotten in the habit of assuming that everyone on the internet is a male until shown to be otherwise. It's probably a bad habit.

momfreeek July 4th, 2012 08:11 AM

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anyone think I'm a mom? I'm not. mom is an acronym (nick is >10 yrs old).

Soyweiser July 4th, 2012 08:20 AM

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I actually assumed you where.

Anaconda July 4th, 2012 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Fantomen (Post 807806)

Fan-to-men, that breakdown should statistically make me a woman 9 times of 10 and gay male 1 out of 10, the slightly ironic truth is that I'm a lesbian.

Sigh, why girls always turn lesbian after they communicate with me? :eek:

Anyways, Fantomen is Swedish for the phantom with cap P, and being a viking she knows it.

Executor July 4th, 2012 08:46 AM

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How many of you checked Fantomens profile just now?

Back on important matters now, Shrapnel be hypocrites.

Fantomen July 4th, 2012 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Anaconda (Post 807816)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Fantomen (Post 807806)

Fan-to-men, that breakdown should statistically make me a woman 9 times of 10 and gay male 1 out of 10, the slightly ironic truth is that I'm a lesbian.

Sigh, why girls always turn lesbian after they communicate with me? :eek:

Anyways, Fantomen is Swedish for the phantom with cap P, and being a viking she knows it.

If your nickname refers to your private parts, that could be why.

Fantomen, the phantom, is a classic Swedish comic book hero. Fantomen, the man who cannot die. (which is the real correlation, the presupposition of everyone being men by default never seems to die)

Back on topic, ****nel shape up and make up!

parone July 4th, 2012 01:27 PM

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let's ask this question-since the prevailing opinion is obviously that a mistake seems to have been made here, is there any chance he will be reinstated? or failing that, that an explanation might be given...

Redeyes July 4th, 2012 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Fantomen (Post 807825)
Fantomen, the phantom, is a classic Swedish comic book hero. Fantomen, the man who cannot die. (which is the real correlation, the presupposition of everyone being men by default never seems to die)

That isn't a Swedish comic book hero at all!

Are you going to tell me Prince Valiant is European next?

Fantomen July 4th, 2012 01:58 PM

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Oh, right. It's not swedish. I just always read it in swedish as a child and relates it to sweden a lot.

Of course prince valiant is european! Where else was there a middle age like that?

shonuf July 4th, 2012 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Fantomen (Post 807838)
Oh, right. It's not swedish. I just always read it in swedish as a child and relates it to sweden a lot.

Of course prince valiant is european! Where else was there a middle age like that?

And Lee Falk, the guy who created Fantomen, has a quite swedish sounding surname. Falk = Falcon in swedish.

I remember being kind of surprised when I found out it wasn't swedish too. I mean, we even had Fantomen soda pops here for a while.

rdonj July 4th, 2012 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by momfreeek (Post 807813)
anyone think I'm a mom? I'm not. mom is an acronym (nick is >10 yrs old).

Actually I've always read your name as a man who has a mom fetish.

Hishtagat July 4th, 2012 03:21 PM

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That makes two of us, rdonj. Ahem.

Gandalf Parker July 4th, 2012 03:46 PM

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Im old, and many conversations here. For some reason I read it as MoMfreeek (Masters of Magic)

JonBrave July 4th, 2012 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Hishtagat (Post 807845)
That makes two of us, rdonj. Ahem.

You have a mom fetish too? :confused:

momfreeek July 4th, 2012 07:17 PM

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yeah, gandalf knows. I loved that game

Gandalf Parker July 4th, 2012 07:40 PM

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The price of it makes Dominions 3 look cheap.
http://astore.amazon.com/dom3-20/detail/B00079V5WQ
and check out some of the other old favorites in the "lives forever" link on the side

Fantomen July 4th, 2012 07:48 PM

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It's also released as a free download: http://www.bestoldgames.net/eng/old-...r-of-magic.php

It's legal in case you're wondering, they let it go some years back.

jimbojones1971 July 5th, 2012 05:31 AM

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Wait, so Fantomen is named after the Phantom comic? That is very cool :-)


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