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Jolly Roger September 6th, 2012 03:58 PM

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My first turn was accepted, so it seems to work....:doh:

Ragnarok-X September 6th, 2012 04:02 PM

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I will be gone from tomorrow to sunday evening.
Current turn is in.

Ragnarok-X September 19th, 2012 04:27 PM

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Im done. Playing a UW Nation i started in a small lake surrounded by land and could not get momentum at all. When my shapeshanging guys tried to take on heavy Infantry, they did fall like flies. I have turned myself to AI.

ghoul31 September 19th, 2012 04:54 PM

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I have never seen anyone succeed with oceania

Arameyan September 19th, 2012 05:10 PM

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I agree that Oceania + bad start location is quite a challenge...

tratorix September 19th, 2012 07:52 PM

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This is why water nations are typically a bad idea on maps without fixed starts. If you end up with a capital in a pond you're screwed from the start.

Torin September 20th, 2012 02:56 AM

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If he started in the lake then is an error of the mapmaker. those should be no start.

skymoon September 20th, 2012 08:42 AM

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Torin, please change my email to dom3people@gmail.com.
My old email address be rejected by llamserver servral times. This make me sick.
I'm MA VAN.

Torin September 20th, 2012 05:22 PM

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changed

militarist September 22nd, 2012 08:50 AM

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Need E and N boosters
Can buy or better exchange on something LA Absy can forge with mages.

militarist September 22nd, 2012 09:06 AM

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As for Oceania, I'm absolutely not agree that everything was done to survive.
1. Taum 2 spell ride the currents. Good way to get somewhere
2. Capricon mages can travel over the land and are stealthy 10, so moving to the sea through someone's territories is not a big deal. Ichtysatyrs also can do it.
3. We know the map before starting the game - pretender could be designed in a proper way - ieither proper for land conquire or for water thuggung.
4. Even if these options wouldn't exist, there is such thing as diplomacy. You've met at least 4 nations to the moment, and maybe more. And would be even more if you took water first. Dimoplacy is a great thing if you can't build armors and send to naked Chinese troops armed by only screwdrivers.

I really don't like situations when someone givups this way damaging all the current balance. Nad givups on such an early stage wher really nothing even threatens the nation. Just someone will take land and the playr will be delayed in growth. But for the only water nation on the map it's not really a game braker.

YellowCactus September 22nd, 2012 10:21 AM

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Oh, this sounds challenging. Did Oceania go AI? I was allowing travel through Ape Empire lands. That's unfortunate. Guess I need to guard my borders and figure out some way to attack the underwater castle...lolz.

Hurmio September 22nd, 2012 02:57 PM

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I guess Oceania didn't have the "neightbours" filter on as there was a adjacent water province next to his capital. The AI took it straight away...

Ragnarok-X September 23rd, 2012 05:15 AM

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No harm was done to the games balance because i set myself to AI only after my land-based armies were scattered by two Abysia players.
The province south of my capital was water, but it had 60 Ichty Warriors in it and didnt offer a strategic advantage compared to the pain so i skipped it. militarist, dont assume i just gave up. I gave up and turned the AI when there was no more choice to make. I could have given all my gems to a friend, THAT would have messed up balance.

HoleyDooley September 23rd, 2012 08:06 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ragnarok-X (Post 811507)
No harm was done to the games balance because i set myself to AI only after my land-based armies were scattered by two Abysia players.
The province south of my capital was water, but it had 60 Ichty Warriors in it and didnt offer a strategic advantage compared to the pain so i skipped it. militarist, dont assume i just gave up. I gave up and turned the AI when there was no more choice to make. I could have given all my gems to a friend, THAT would have messed up balance.

Well I will be down to 1 province after this turn, so by Rag-x's example I should not bother with 5 minute turns and go AI.

Nah, what a way to wuss out, I'll stick it out till I'm dead.

You learn something new every day playing this game, apparently Rag -X has a friend.

militarist September 24th, 2012 04:28 AM

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Ragnarok-X, while I'm absolutely not agree with your logic(yuo still have capital which produces gems and 25k pop, and someone will just have it for free), Torin didn't mention any strict rules for this game, the game seems to be created relaxed and newbie-friendly, so I I'm ok if he is ok, he is game admin.

militarist September 24th, 2012 04:29 AM

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Need som E gems (30 maybe) in exchange on something else (have a lot of F and some D). Is anyone interested in friendly exchange?

skymoon September 29th, 2012 10:33 PM

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Admin, I need to be on a business trip during Oct 1-5. Can I apply for a turns delay?

Torin September 30th, 2012 12:11 AM

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ok, delayed

skymoon September 30th, 2012 10:17 PM

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Thanks a lot.

(from iphone)

Jolly Roger October 2nd, 2012 03:48 PM

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Gentlemen,

I´ll be on a trip to the beautiful city of Dresden from Thursday to Saturday evening. Gonna have no internet access until Sunday
morning ( GMT +1).

A break for this period would be much appreciated.

Thanks, Klaus

Torin October 4th, 2012 07:42 AM

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tratorix. are you still playing? you are staling and taking too long making the rest wait

militarist October 8th, 2012 11:39 AM

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It looks like we have a problem wth Patala player.
Hate to tell it, but such players is the reason I usually never join games which are not z7.invisionfre.,// -comunity based.
In shrapnel-forum games, there is always someone joins who can't find time to play and doesn't respect other's time to care to find a replacement.

YellowCactus October 8th, 2012 11:49 AM

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How's the weather in Hawaii?

militarist October 8th, 2012 02:59 PM

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I already moved from there to Switzerland :)

militarist October 9th, 2012 07:01 AM

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Once more time I'd like to make an accent on Patala.
Here is another game where this player is playing, and his nation is really recongizable by stalling statitics. I would propose to Torin as game admin to either get some commitment from him or we need to find a replacement while its not too late. The player is currently in several games, and stalls everywhere - somewhere more somewhere less. Disappearing for weeks sometimes without any notifcation.

Initiative: Staling data

Nation Turn 54 Turn 55 Turn 56 Turn 57 Turn 58 Total stales
C'tis Turn received Turn received Turn received Turn received Turn received 0
Abysia Turn received Turn received Turn received Turn received Turn received 0
Caelum Turn received Turn received Turn received Turn received Turn received 1
R'lyeh Turn received Staled Staled Staled Staled 19

militarist October 9th, 2012 12:15 PM

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May I ask who has requested delay?

YellowCactus October 9th, 2012 06:04 PM

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Yea! Game on! This one rocks!

Hurmio October 11th, 2012 02:56 AM

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If Patala keeps staling it will break the game. So unless Patala shows up really soon, i say we get a permanent sub.

Tiavals October 11th, 2012 07:42 AM

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Patala has staled 7 times during the game, and hasn't asked for a time extension once, I think. Yet he has played some of the turns recently.

Hasn't been on the forum for a week either.

tratorix, what do you say? Can you play more turns, or will you relinquish your nation?

YellowCactus October 12th, 2012 04:59 PM

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I won't be signing up for any games with tratorix in the future. One player has just decided to declare WAR on all his neighbors. Likely because he doesn't like the pace we're setting. Delays in the game are understandable. Unfortunatly, holding up the game week after week is poor sportsmanship showing either a lack of respect, or a lack of maturity.

HoleyDooley October 12th, 2012 07:19 PM

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Ditto.

Not only is his staling a problem, his immature approach to the game and diplomacy as well is just as big a problem.

Hurmio October 15th, 2012 02:56 AM

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Should we put the game on hold until a sub is found for Patala?

YellowCactus October 15th, 2012 05:27 PM

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My vote is 'No'. We've already paused the game for two 5 day cycles. Lets play the game already. It would be nice to have a sub for Traitorx though. Maybe just nobody attack Patala until we find a sub. (Poor Sub)

Torin October 17th, 2012 09:39 AM

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i did set myself to AI and then tried to take over patala. i will try next turn and possibly turn it to AI

YellowCactus October 17th, 2012 01:34 PM

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Give us a notice before turning Patala to AI.

Thanks for running things Torin!

Arameyan October 19th, 2012 11:59 AM

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May I ask a delay? I'll be out for the next 2 days (56 hours to be precise). Thanks!

Torin October 22nd, 2012 10:20 AM

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since im already out of this game i will need someone to take over as admin

YellowCactus October 22nd, 2012 05:15 PM

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Thanks for creating this game Torin. It's been really really FUN!

Hurmio October 26th, 2012 01:34 AM

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Did we get a new admin? I think we should increase the hosting schedule to 48h. We are already at turn 40 and playing takes more time.

YellowCactus October 26th, 2012 07:45 AM

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Agreed!,
I nominate Hurmio as new admin! All in favor?

Tiavals October 26th, 2012 08:14 AM

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Anyone so long as it ain't me. :D

YellowCactus October 26th, 2012 08:18 AM

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How about this....since we are playing random factions, we should have Torin roll a random Admin!

Hurmio October 26th, 2012 10:10 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by YellowCactus (Post 813002)
Agreed!,
I nominate Hurmio as new admin! All in favor?

I'm ok with it. I'll set the schedule to 48h when i get the admin rights.

Arameyan October 26th, 2012 08:51 PM

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Fine with me.

48 hrs is a good idea.

Hurmio October 30th, 2012 08:00 AM

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Seems like Torin has disappeared. I hope he comes back as i'm having some trouble with this hosting schedule.

YellowCactus October 30th, 2012 06:18 PM

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Hang in there man! It's a brutal schedule, but a great game really.

If anyone spots Torin around in chat channels somewhere, please ask him to give Hurmio admin!

Thanks

Arameyan October 31st, 2012 06:58 AM

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Torin is more active in the invision forum, maybe we can reach him there

I agree, 24h is fun but quite short after 40+ turns...

Arameyan November 5th, 2012 11:01 PM

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Its weird, I dont receive any answer from the server when I send my turn. I am the only one?

Hurmio November 6th, 2012 03:20 AM

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Nope, i've had the same. Something wrong with llamaserver i guess. In other news, Torin is still AWOL. I'll be away for few days next week, so unless we get the admin pass i'll be staling 2 or 3 turns.


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