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I.F., how did you create (if you are the creator) the solar system planets at the end?
The generic planets I can reasonably accept, but venus through saturn look very much like NASA photos, just from the minis.

I'm gonna have to ask for a fresh credits.txt packaged with every image ZIP from now on.
(Requirement #5 on the Image ModPack page, Last but not least important)

[ 28 January 2002: Message edited by: suicide_junkie ]</p>

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Ok here they are
http://se4kdy.cyberwars.com/temp/planets.zip
They're also from pics I found in that sire scifi3d, I'll check the authors for credits.
I also have a few comp pics but as they may change and be added others while I revise and deepen the starwars part before adding it to the crossover mod.

I hate having the same picture used in different mods as completely different components. It's very confusing, the primary function of those pictures is to let you know what a component is in a fast and intuitive way without having to right-click to read its name or something.

I just realized that this entire project will make the same problem to happen with all pictures that used to be mod-exclusive.
On the other hand modders will have more pictures to choose from and it will be less likely to happen.

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SJ, I didn't create those planets. I downloaded them from Shrapnel months ago, and I didn't feel like looking for it in the archive section. I have no idea who created these planets.

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Ahh. I was downloading the updated picture packs and got this message when I tried to download the third file:

"The web site you are trying to access has exceeded its allocated data transfer."

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I think it said that the site would be available within the hour when I looked at it Last night. I was tired and didn't want to stay up for an extra hour to download it. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Is there a reason why you're not hosting these on Shrapnel?

Has anybody asked Hadrian Aventine if we could use his pictures from the Ultimate Mod? There are some cool pictures in it.

Also, are there any plans of incorporating the system pictures in "SEIV\Pictures\Systems" into this collection?

[ 28 January 2002: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]</p>

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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Is there a reason why you're not hosting these on Shrapnel?<hr></blockquote>Yes. The primary reason is that I'm uploading over 4MB of almost-identical ZIPs multiple times each day.

If I was using shrapnel as a host for these, I wouldn't be able to delete the old ones, and Richard would have about 50 Megs of obsolete bitmaps by now.

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Also, are there any plans of incorporating the system pictures in "SEIV\Pictures\Systems" into this collection?<hr></blockquote>That depends entirely on how much interest there is, and how big the files will get. The account I'm using to host the image mod is already half full, but I could expand it if nessesary.

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>I think it said that the site would be available within the hour when I looked at it Last night. I was tired and didn't want to stay up for an extra hour to download it.<hr></blockquote>Was that the whole site, or just the downloads?

PS: Wow! 15 hits already today! Not many download slots left!
It is definitely too bad that incremental updates are almost as big as the full installs http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif
I am definitely going to have to mirror these files somewhere...

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I've got some sites that have plenty of storage available that I volunteer to help mirror these files.

Isn't there some place that you can delete you're files from Shrapnel?

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SJ:

The pics that look like NASA pics are shrunk down NASA pics - I actually have several of them from NASA's edu department - so either the artist copied and shrank or is REALLY good!

Do you want me to pack and E*Mail you all the B5 stuff we have to date, or do you have it from the other thread? I have quite a few more weapons to add, so maybe holding off to keep them grouped together would be a better idea.

I really liked the spiral beam, very excellent!

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IF:
That would be useful. Post the link, and I'll add it to my site. Do these mirrors have any transfer limits?
I have two other possibilities lined up, but the more the merrier.

AFAIK, the old shrapnel upload system associated the uploader with the files & allowed you do delete, but the new system is much less flexible.
I've only seen an upload option so far.

VAL: You might as well send two Groups: everything you've got so far, and then the rest later. But don't bother sending until Tuesday, since I can't do any work on them till then.

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http://galileo.spaceports.com/~kazha...CombatPack.zip

I'll get the other ones uploaded later.

Edit: Hmm, thats weird. The download doesn't work if I click on the links. If I paste the url in the address bar, the files download fine. I hope they'll work on your webpage SJ. If not, I'll copy your web page and put it on my site.

Oh yeah, the bandwidth is 500 Mb/day and 5 Gb/month. So, my site shouldn't run out of server space.

Edit 2: The facility pack didn't upload properly. Weird.

[ 28 January 2002: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]</p>

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yes that was it Imperator Fyron. Thanks dude. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>"The web site you are trying to access has exceeded its allocated data transfer."<hr></blockquote>From the site stats, it looks like there's been at least 100MB of downloads yesterday. I didn't find any indication of limits in the FAQs, but that dosen't mean there aren't any.

However, I did visit the site this morning, and downloaded the ZIP just fine. Perhaps it is only a daily restriction.

[ 28 January 2002: Message edited by: suicide_junkie ]</p>

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Fixed the stars thing.

Here it is. ::Embarassed Look on his face::

I also have a Kamikaze Pack. There is a new component graphic in it, along with a new ship class - a flying resupply depot. That also can Kamikaze. I'm not sure if the mineral amount or space is correct, and you are free to modify it. You can use these, too.

The Magical Kamikaze Pack of Doom

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I edited my post before, but I don't think anyone caught it.

OldPlanets.zip

credit.txt

[ 29 January 2002: Message edited by: Urendi Maleldil ]</p>

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After taking 3&1/2 hours to walk home in the middle of the night, I'm finally feeling "mostly alive".

IF:
Your site probably has the same "offsite linking" restrictions as mine.
How are you planning to get updates? I could email them to you if you like.

Loknar:
This imagemod dosen't deal with shipsets, but the components will be added... Just post a short credit.txt

UM:
Got it. You didn't mention a "submitted by me" in that. Did you want to be anonymous http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

[ 30 January 2002: Message edited by: suicide_junkie ]</p>

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Anonymity is fine. It doesn't really matter to me if people know I was the one who edited the images.

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SJ:

It seems spaceports doesn't like off-site downloads, so I have copied your page and put it on my site's server. Here it is:

http://galileo.spaceports.com/~kazha...imagepack.html

I was planning on downloading the updates from your site. If you have broadband, then you can email them to me (kazharii@hotmail.com). Just don't send me any file larger than 1.5 MB, cause hotmail won't allow me to access it. Split larger files into 2 zips and I'll put them back together. If you don't have broadband, just email me that you have posted an update on your site, and I'll download it from there. I don't want you to waste your time uploading the files twice. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif I have a cable modem, so file transfers dont't take to long for me.

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I also changed the "back to main page" link to reference my web site, so maybe I'll get some traffic now. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif Do you know where I can get a script for a hit-counter (cgi, javascript, or php)? The site I used to use to host my counter disappeared, and I don't know how to make one.

I tested downloading all the files, so I know they uploaded properly.

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Was just trying to find your homepage, the link helps http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

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Hmm, I never updated my homepage in my shrapnel member profile. It's updated now.

I need to fix my forum eventually. Do you have broadband Val, or do you use a dial-up modem? I'd like to know how long my page takes to load with a 56 K connection, what with the graphical borders and all. I added a link to my site in my sig.

[ 29 January 2002: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]</p>

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Using the T1 at work, your pages come up in seconds http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif I like the page, I recognize some of the race pics, what show were they from? Star Trek Next Gen?

I actually don't have a connection at home at the moment, though I'll be getting a cable connection in the next month or so.

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I got them from BoTF. When I add new races to the Imperium, I'll be using some pictures from MOO2.

Cable modems rock! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif The pages load in seconds for me too.

Anybody out there on a dial-up modem want to help me test how long my site takes to load?

I apologize for veering this thread away from the image collection mod, but really, Val started it. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

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Well, with Sympatico, shared over three computers, it took ~30 seconds.

PS: I.F. Are they strict about the <blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>* All sites with banners must have a 0.25% CTR or greater. Your site must average at least one banner click for every 400 banners displayed.
and
* You may NOT incentivize banner clicks. This has always been our policy, but it is worth repeating. The only approved phrase for referencing your banner is 'Please visit our sponsors.'<hr></blockquote>thing? When I saw that I went and clicked-through for you http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
Can I incentivise before they actually get to your site, since I'm not "you" http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

RE: hit counters. No idea, I've never looked.
Geocities creates a stats page automatically.
It indicates that 72% of people jump to the ImagemodDownloads from this very thread, and a mere 8% come through the main page.

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Whats's Sympatico?

And where did you see that thing about the banner ad needing to be clicked on? I haven't seen it before.

And with all your programing knowledge, I thought you might know how to make a counter. Oh well.

Can you release the program you wrote for making 2000 or so population-based modifiers? That would be a cool utility to have.

[ 30 January 2002: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]</p>

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Sympatico is Bell's "lets use all the phone-line frequencies not used by voice as a high-speed internet". Basically its a dog-whistle modem, with some filters on your phone jacks just in case.

All the rules are on Spaceport's sign-up page. Are you saying you didn't read the EULA? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Programming yes, internet/HTML stuff: see my homepage. The SE4-ish colourscheme is my fancypants HTML http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif

The pop modifier generator is certainly not anywhere near fit for general use.
I change the hardcode for each use, and the thing is pretty "Red Green" if you know what I mean http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif
I could throw a bunch of text boxes on the screen for input, but dynamically using a fuction typed in by the user is a tad more difficult.
(right now, SY is linear, Prod. is a sinewave)

If I spent a few days on it, I could come up with something presentable, and maybe a dropdown list of common functions to use.

Heh. This reminds me of when I was little, and due to a sentax error, I discovered that I had inadvertently created a program that rewrote bits of itself. Couldn't find a use for it, since the "dynamic" changes had to be hardcoded...

This is an example of an "axe" (see below). Bang a sharp blade onto a stick and you're set. The "tinman" fully-automatic treechopping system takes much longer.

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I read most of the EULA. I didn't notice that the ad banner had to be clicked on every once in a while. I hope they don't enforce that very strictly. I've only been using spaceports since early Dec 2001, so I don't think the ads have loaded very many times.

My "programming" skills are limited to html and a bit of javascript. I have been trying to teach myself php and mysql, but I've been too lazy. Plus, it's hard to find a free web host that will give you a mysql database, so I haven't had much incentive (or chance) to learn it.

So what do you think of my site SJ?

[ 30 January 2002: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]</p>

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The site is very nice. I think my main problem is having too small of a browser Cache.
I did note that some of the SE4 images are broken. (Planets in Torgal & Ship Minis)
The capital city is remarkable.

Re: Counters. Can you read/write files on your site using javascript? If so, a simple text file, read, add 1, write, would be enough for light traffic ("light traffic" = time for script to complete before the next visitor arrives).

PS: No file updates today, but lots of webpage changes. I need to catch up on sleep, and will get to the submissions tomorrow.

[ 30 January 2002: Message edited by: suicide_junkie ]</p>

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Kamikaze Images Credits

The Kamikaze warhead and the resource depot were part of the same kind of thing, so I posted them here at once. I knew that the image collection did not consist of shipsets.

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SJ:

The broken images were there. Their file extensions were capitalized for some reason. They display properly on my local copy on my hard drive, but I guess the spaceports server doesn't like file extensions that are not of the proper syntax. They are fixed now. Thanks for the notification, and thanks for liking my site. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

I can't claim credit for the capital city. It is a picture of Romulus that I got it from BoTF, cause I liked it so much.

What do you think of my SEIII shipsets? I think that they're pretty good, especially since I made them by hand in MS Paint. I also made my ISN banner in Paint. That was so much fun. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

My knowledge of javascript is mostly limited to copying other scripts and modifying them to suit my purposes. I'm not too good at making them from scratch.

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Re: Counters. Can you read/write files on your site using javascript?<hr></blockquote>

I can use cgi, so I think that could be done. However, I have no clue how to do it.

Do you want a graphical banner for the Image Modpack? I might be able to make something similar to my ISN banner.

Also, I'll add a link to your site on my links page. Do you have a banner or something?

[ 30 January 2002: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]</p>

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S_J - nice to see your main website updated at Last=-) Looking good. Thanks for the links too. Just in case you weren't aware of my banners, here's a link to them. Given the good-content-rather-than-loads-of-graphics style of your site though (A preference I share BTW) I imagine you knew about the banners and decided not to use them. Which is fine.

BTW, If anyone does pull a hit-counter out of the hat, I'd be very interested in using it. I'm dying to know if anyone actually visits my site...

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Can't you just go to a webpage with a counter, view the HTML coding and "clip" out the counter?

Or if anyone has Frontpage there should be a counter in there, right?

Here is the HTML from the page I have up on our Intranet:

&lt;p align="center"&gt;&lt;font FACE="MetaPlusBook" COLOR="#ffffff"&gt;&lt;small&gt;You are visitor # &lt;!--webbot
bot="HitCounter" startspan i-image="0" i-digits="0"
PREVIEW="&lt;strong&gt;[Hit Counter]&lt;/strong&gt;" u-custom i-resetvalue="0" --&gt;&lt;img SRC="_vti_bin/fpcount.exe/myweb/?Page=Default%20Main%20Frame.htm|Image=0" ALT="Hit Counter"&gt;&lt;!--webbot
bot="HitCounter" endspan --&gt;&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

Hope this helps!

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RE: Banners & Images
I have none, but I suppose you could use the helix cannon for now http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif

Something along the lines of an "Online" image would be good to use as a link to the mirrors.

As for the offsite links, if I were to use images any larger than roughly text-sized, I would put them on a separate page. Which I might as well do anyways. Text links on the main page, and a colourful banner page if you click on the title rather than a specific link...

Val:
Most of us dont have "_vti_bin/fpcount.exe/myweb/", so I expect problems http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif
You probably got extra software installed on your network.

RE: SE3 sets
Wow. I'd forgotten the difference between SE3 & 4 graphics. No portraits, just your basic shipsets.
I think I've been spoiled by SE4 http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif , but I like the idea of the picket fleet. That would make some interesting looking battles, especially if both sides used the same theory of ship design http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
I imagine an SE4 style combat would be amazing, since the ships can't stack.

[ 30 January 2002: Message edited by: suicide_junkie ]</p>

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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>
I have none, but I suppose you could use the helix cannon for now

Something along the lines of an "Online" image would be good to use as a link to the mirrors.
<hr></blockquote>

I could create a banner for you (or for anyone else who asks nicely enough) if you wanted.

(Twisting the thread cleverly back on-topic...)

While I'm at it, are there any images which are obviously lacking from this image mod? You know, any facilities or components that ppl would like to have an image for but as yet has not been submitted?

If so I'd be happy to have a go at drawing it.

--

Dogscoff: Pixels for hire.

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I'll start a new thread for image requests: I've got two to kick it off http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

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Woohoo!
drunken antics avec paint packages leads to good wormholes http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
Included in the zip are the large Versions only to save space. Besides it doesn't really take much to resize down for minis.
1012402756.zip

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Hanging head in shame... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

Ah, oops....

I'll see if I can find the complete file and such for you. Sorry!

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Matryx!
Tsk, Tsk. Your Image 305 http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif Drunken antics indeed. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif You even got the star down and to the right of the "eye".

PS: When submitting, I need the minis too. If you need to save space, put them into their own 36x180 image rather than in with the SE4 originals.

[ 30 January 2002: Message edited by: suicide_junkie ]</p>

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That 'eye' system has a familiar ring to it...

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I do not believe I said they were all my original creations http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif but I do feel like I've had my wrist slapped http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
All have, however, been 'touched up' while I was drunk, so there is truth in what I wrote.

I was wondering where that one, 304 and 306 came from originally. (think I need to find 307 too but I can't remember)
All I knew from the site I found was they were taken by the hubble telescope.
Have to include Nasa / RealLife(tm) / Hubble somewhere in the credits of course.

Edit: Realised Credits.txt was not included. It is located -(HERE)-

[ 30 January 2002: Message edited by: Matryx ]</p>

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Actually, was just making a LoTR joke/pun http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif Kinda reminded me of the Eye of Sauron

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On the website, you might want to have the readme.txt files as a separate download so a person doesn't have to download a whole collection just to see what's in it.

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Ahhh so this is the thread that reply was supposed to be in http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif
I thought it was a little out of place but didn't want to mention anything http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by suicide_junkie:
After taking 3&1/2 hours to walk home in the middle of the night, I'm finally feeling "mostly alive".
<hr></blockquote>

Care to explain walking home in the middle of the night for 3 1/2 hours & whether the "mostly alive" is just tired or surviving an attempted mugging?

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Just tired, from spending 14 hours at work (running around a 10-floor building), and then the 3&1/2 hours in a Canadian Winter going home.
I added the schlock link for humour.

[ 30 January 2002: Message edited by: suicide_junkie ]</p>

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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>the 3&1/2 hours in a Canadian Winter going home<hr></blockquote>

I thought that Ontario was getting spring-like temperatures right now. I saw people in Toronta golfing in t-shirts for goodness sakes http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

Cheers from the frozen West
jimbob

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You know, I was under the impression that my site was going to be a mirror download site for the image mod, not the primary server. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif Oh well, no worries.

If you decide to download any part of the Image Pack from my site, please click on the banner ad displayed at the bottom of the page. Apparently, I have to maintain a certain visit to click ratio to keep my site up, so help out. You don't actually have to read the ad or anything, just let it load and then close it. Thanks.

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Here is a small contribution from I.

Atrocities Planet Zip

The Read-Me tells all. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Hope these altered planet images add to the flavor of the game. (Yes I have many more if your interested)

QUESTIONS:
Has anyone checked into the cost of having a download server? Perhaps getting hosted or something along those lines? What is the cost of having a hosted site? Example: www.SE4image.net and have it hosted by a hosting site. I understand that the amount of bandwidth granted per month is quite high for a rather low fee. If I am wrong, just shoot me. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>I thought that Ontario was getting spring-like temperatures right now. I saw people in Toronta golfing in t-shirts for goodness sakes <hr></blockquote>It's been going up & down like crazy near my place. From blizzard to grass showing & right back.

Atrocities:
Do you have minis for that?
And, how does your naming scheme work?

IF: Hopefully you won't have to stay as the primary too long, but yours is the only one up 24/7. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

PS: Somebody go and visit the site now, and test the FTP link for me, please!

[ 31 January 2002: Message edited by: suicide_junkie ]</p>

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Um, no mini's. What size do they need to be? 36 x 36? Naming sceme can be anything that is availible. IE p0200 and up????

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36x36, and set the naming to match the order in which the minis appear. (starting at one for the top-left)

PS: Somebody please try the FTP link on the imagemod page, and tell me if it works from offsite.