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[quote]Originally posted by mac5732:
[QB]Ohio is not for the faint of heart http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif At least its not BOSTON http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif [QB]

Wow, I will let you and Guffin discuss that one mano et mano - the hand shandy shufflers I spoke to said that Ohio was not for the faint of breath or those with any olfactory ability - their words not mine I might add

[QB] In regards to "Dirty Old Man", sigh, someone must contemplate upon the virtues of the higher recesses of one's mind or degress to the point of failing to appreciate what science may "uncover" within the universe to advance knowledge within
the various realms of just "what is possible and that which is not", http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif [QB]

Errrr, ground control to planet Mac, come in planet Mac

[QB](your just jealous of my stimulating of the upper reaches of my mind to enjoy what one experiences in life and to indulge within the fantasical reaches of "what could be" http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif )[QB]

Mac, dont say such things, the thought that anything said on this forum stimulates you is quite horrible - but I suppose at your age you need all the stimulation you can get - arn't tea dances only held once a week??

just some ridulously perverted ideas mac

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What mac says is true. The air is cleaner but it does take a hearty person to live here. You must be someone of great moralle fiber and astounding intellect. Yes, Boston is not for the faint of heart. I am surprised Tig survived here for a weekend.

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Aahhh, Ohio, what can I say, for example, In Cleveland, the great lower Harbor area was built on a Land Fill, (Garbage to those uninformed) this is where the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame, Burke airport and much much more now reside, could we ask for anything more?, The air, now that most of the Steel Mills are closed and put thousands out of work, has started to improve to the point where the sea gulls aren't dropping dead and falling from the sky, and the pigeon droppings on our buildings, where else could you get such cheap fertilizer? And then there's Hopikins International airport, driving there is such an experience, especially if you don't know where you're going, it brings tears to the eyes just thinking about it, then there's the Cleveland Indian who choke in the playoffs and are dismantled by managment to the point they will be lucky to place 3rd in their division, yes these are only some of the benefits you'd experience by visiting, I would say from those misinformed parties who gave you those inaccurate statements concerning us, just have never bothered to stop and take it all in, but they are probably from out west somewhere where all they get is that digustable mountain air. What do they know??? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

just some ideas mac

(Disclaimer: everything here is in Jest, and is not meant to demean any city or state) have to put this in, in case someone takes the wrong way

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Growltigga - Glad to hear you survived the great adventure! Arizona in the winter is about as tough as you can get. The high is only supposed to get up to the mid 70s today in Chandler.

Sounds like Canyon de Chelly was fun. I hope the rest of your sight-seeing turned out as well. Sorry, no snow for you though. I suspect we are going to have a problem this summer as we aren't getting much precipitation this year. Oh well, it won't be the first time.

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Tig, I'm sure it will be no cake walk I have serious attention span issues with anything this complex. Things like forgetting to move ships or build colonizers.
None the less, I do suggest a turn limited game where the score is not visble to us as the playing is more important than the outcome. (in my ideal world)
To bad we cvould not link up when you were in Boston. If you think you might come again, let me know, I"ll send you my phone number.

Sleep well.

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[QB]Tig, I'm sure it will be no cake walk [QB]

I disagree Guffin, may be not a cakewalk but more of a noodle surprise perhaps??

[QB] I have serious attention span issues with anything this complex. Things like forgetting to move ships or build colonizers. [QB]

Of course you have attention span issues, so would I if I had as many women 'on the go' as you do

[QB] None the less, I do suggest a turn limited game where the score is not visble to us as the playing is more important than the outcome. (in my ideal world) [QB]

Guffin, for the first time ever I think, I agree with you. I would like our game to be brought to us by the letter 'H' and the number '4' if you get my drift - given the lack of time I have to play this superb game, I wouldn't want any power hungry despoiling unchivalrous machiavellan lunatic, geriatric, Canadian or otherwise to spoil the show

[QB] To bad we cvould not link up when you were in Boston. If you think you might come again, let me know, I"ll send you my phone number. [QB]

Will do, I spent the time in some lawyers office so didn't see anything of Boston other than a sea food restaurant that looked as if it had seen better millenium, still the cod was pretty nice

I hate spending time with American lawyers, they always go on about how they earn about 10 times more than us european lawyers - in fact, one of the best things about my trip to AZ was when a large bottomed bin dipping US attorney fell off the back of the tour truck into an ice cold river in canyon de chelly, me and the navajo driver laughed so loud our bladders almost burst

[QB] Sleep well.[QB]

I am not going to sleep, it is midday here and too much work to do but still, I am really looking forward to Madrid, great city, lovely people, great food and superb wine

Still, I will miss my chicken and rib barbecue combo, glass of poison and watching the sun devils at Cooper'stown in Phoenix

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Growtigga,
It is good we agree on something
Check your private Messages.

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AK, I really enjoyed Arizona - I must admit that it wasn't my initial first choice of holiday destination but having gone there, I did enjoy it.

spent a few days in Pheonix, had a good laugh at ALice Cooper'stown - a young lady showed me her surgically enhanced breasts within 10 minutes of my being in there, got to go to the Sun Devils/Golden State basketball ball game on the Friday - went to a brewery in Tempe with steaks to follow at Monti's (food was shocking so didnt pay the bill) - even did Phoenix zoo - could have slapped the locals for going incessantly on about how cold it was

Based the rest of the time out of Flagstaff and Page - did the Grand Canyon, Monument Valley, Canyon de Chelly (excellent, phenomenal steer from you there), Lake Powell - did 1450 miles in 5 days - got a police warning for speeding, had to dig a truck out of ice in Canyon de Chelly, was attacked by a porcupine (I fell on it), locked the car keys in the trunk up beyond Monument Valley in Utah

Packed a lot in in the time

Overall, I think you live in a very attractive state. Phoenix could do with losing some of the sprawl but anywhere that has the Biltmore Shopping Plaza where you buy Ralph Lauren shirts for under $20 is ok with me

The one downside of all however is Lil' Dittys Bar in Phoenix Live in the Arizona Centre. Have you been there? there is absolutely no excuse for this sort of venue - shocking is all I can say

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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by mac5732:
Aahhh, Ohio, what can I say, for example, In Cleveland, the great lower Harbor area was built on a Land Fill, (Garbage to those uninformed) this is where the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame, Burke airport and much much more now reside, could we ask for anything more?, The air, now that most of the Steel Mills are closed and put thousands out of work, has started to improve to the point where the sea gulls aren't dropping dead and falling from the sky, and the pigeon droppings on our buildings, where else could you get such cheap fertilizer? And then there's Hopikins International airport, driving there is such an experience, especially if you don't know where you're going, it brings tears to the eyes just thinking about it, then there's the Cleveland Indian who choke in the playoffs and are dismantled by managment to the point they will be lucky to place 3rd in their division, yes these are only some of the benefits you'd experience by visiting, I would say from those misinformed parties who gave you those inaccurate statements concerning us, just have never bothered to stop and take it all in, but they are probably from out west somewhere where all they get is that digustable mountain air. What do they know??? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

just some ideas mac<hr></blockquote>


So the net response is that Ohio is the cloaca maxima of the free world. Something in between a cess pool and a dead dog covered in maggots, save without the charm.

Remind me to never pop in and see you

Your disclaimer was funny, here in the UK, your remarks could be counted as fair comment so now worries there

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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Gryphin:
You must be someone of great moralle fiber and astounding intellect. <hr></blockquote>

You mean of sufficient immoral fibre to try circling the wagons and enough intellect to think it up!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

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GT, just wanted you to know, the "Shiva Option" is out by Weber & White, but only in hardback, I love the story, but they want $27 for the hardback copy, I love to read but $27 is a little much, probably wait for the paperback to come out in several months.

Also, Kidding aside, Ohio is a nice state, you just have to overlook some of the oddities just like in any other city. Do have some beuuutifl sites, http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif also Kings Island, Cedar Point, among others.

PS: I think all of us here would like to hear more about the "attack of the Porcupine" and just what you were doing to be mugged by one of nature's innocent wonders (LOL) http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

just some ideas mac

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Yeah, cheers for this Mac, I saw the hardback copy (at $27 a pop) in a WH SMith at Hartsfield, Atlanta Last Thursday/Friday- I really was churned about whether to buy it or not as (a) I feel one should support specialist producers such as Baen (b) I only had $35 in cash left (I didnt know I would be bouncing back to Boston in 4 hours of landing home) and (c) the 1.75 litre bottle of Jack Daniels Reserve was $33 and I couldn't afford both and (d) Mrs GT wanted the cash to spend on some clinique make-up - my remark that polyfilla or anything other industrial grouter would work just as well left me limping for the next 6 hours

I am only kidding about Ohio - I have never really been there other than Cleveland - that does tarnish one's perception you know

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Besides re-living the "Attack or Mugging of the Porcupine", how about a little more on the "Implant Adventure" Heh, Heh, I know, I know,
"Mac, Your a Dirty Old Man" I think we deserve the full details on both episodes http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

PS. Yeh I know about Cleveland, I live in one of the Suburbs....

just some ideas mac

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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by mac5732:
Besides re-living the "Attack or Mugging of the Porcupine", how about a little more on the "Implant Adventure" Heh, Heh, I know, I know,
"Mac, Your a Dirty Old Man" I think we deserve the full details on both episodes http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif PS. Yeh I know about Cleveland, I live in one of the Suburbs....just some ideas mac<hr></blockquote>

OK Mac

The Porcupine Episode

This happended Last Wednesday in Canyon de Chelly. We were in an old US army truck (I believe you call then deuce and a halfs) on a tour in canyon de la muerto (the north canyon). Weather was bright but cold, in fact the ice on the canyon bottom was quite large.

We got the deuce stuck on a 2 foot thick block of ice whilst fording the river. There are 10 of us in the truck but the navajo driver only has 1 shovel and most of the rest of the possee dont want to help free the truck. I have this idea to get a couple of large sticks to help break up the ice. Me and a guy from Utah go to get a couple of sticks - I fall over whilst doing so and land on what I thought was a black green scubby plant but is actually a porcupine. Bloody quills get stuck in my left arm, hand and shoulder. Bloody painful to get them out I can tell you and has ruined a perfectly good fleece. Anyway, guy from Utah is a doctor so happy ending.

The implant incident

Dont ask me why this happended, ask Alpha Kodiak, Phoenix D, Wardad or any other of the Arizonans. I was sitting in Cooperstown with Mrs GT drinking when this nice young filly comes up, obviously a bit drunk and asks me if I know 'Mike' - She thinks I am someone elses' brother and when I explain I am a red blooded Englishman and far more sophisticated than the locals, she simply pulls up her top and asks me what I think of her breasts. I said they were great. Mrs GT only got upset when I asked young girl if I could touch them as I was curious, purely out of scientific interest only, what they felt like.

Guys, does this happen in Phoenix regularily??

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Uhh, my best guess is that she got drunk and got sent over on a dare- not to you specifically but to whoever "Mike" was, and missed the target http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Phoenix-D

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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Phoenix-D:
Uhh, my best guess is that she got drunk and got sent over on a dare- not to you specifically but to whoever "Mike" was, and missed the target http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Phoenix-D<hr></blockquote>

Cheers Phoenix D http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon8.gif , did you ever think I may just have this effect on young girls? it can get very embarassing, especially when they do it to you at the supermarket

Have you ever been to Little Ditty's in the Arizona Center?

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http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/blush.gif BMT, I must depart off net for short time, I have to go someplace, I will endeavor to answer/question the fruits of your escapdes upon my return, aahhh science research.... don't leave home without it..... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

just some ideas mac

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"I may just have this effect on young girls"

Oh come on, surely they aren't THAT desperate. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

EDIT: I don speli to gud

Phoenix-D

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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Phoenix-D:
Oh come on, surely they aren't THAT desperate. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif <hr></blockquote>

I dunno, you are the one who lives in or around Phoenix, if Little Ditty's was anything to go by, the local talent is sufficiently stressed that they would flash their assets at good looking strangers!

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"local talent is sufficiently stressed that they would flash their assets at good looking strangers!"


Therein lies the problem.

Phoenix-D

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I should think that the Implant episode should teach all of us a lesson. We should always carry a small tape measure with us in case the chance of a scientific research situation arises. I'm sure the good GT, in the furtherance of science, would have endeavored to explain to the young filly, that for research purposes, the exact size, composition, and make up of the endowed aforementioned items, would be necessary before a
truly honest and forthright theory or hypothisis could be brought foreward into the light concerning her aah, umm, assests. I'm sure that if GT had this small instrument and explained to Mrs GT of the scientific research that was to be conducted due to the availability of the subjects in question and that he needed the information to impart upon his colleagues (namely us), concerning the exactness of that research, that she would have understood and therefore would not have been upset and in fact would have wished him well upon this most enormous of adventures. (PS,
Its a shame, that being a tourist, that you didn't have a camera with you to document your unexpected yet exceptional discovery. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

PSS By the way did Mrs GT really let you touch them???? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Gryphin, what do you think of attending this location to further this discovery of such magnitude. Maybe Phoenix D could be pursueded to look into this matter a little more closely and report back to us on his findings.

just some ideas mac

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Mac, I visit Tucson every 2 years to go hiking. I always carry a tape measure but it is used for other activeties, (that I won't go into here).
I think next February I will indevor to follow up on the research suggested. I wonder if she likes hiking.

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Well, I'm afraid that I haven't been to Little Ditty's so I'm not sure what things are like there. I can assure you that I have yet to have anyone display their augmentations to me, so perhaps it is just your English charm. Then again, maybe it is just that females sense the engineer in me and avoid me like the plague. If I hadn't met up with a cute female engineering student (a very rare commodity, BTW) in my college days, I would probably still be single.

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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Phoenix-D:
[QB]Therein lies the problem.QB]<hr></blockquote>

Phoenix D - so you are agreeing with my proposition that the menfolk in Phoenix are such a poor show that the local women will naturally suffer a rush of hormones and hysterically overreact when a strange male enters town - I have seen in this problem in many parts of the world, especially in the States where the women seem to think that every English male is as endowed as a well hung baboon.

Mac - you really are pervertus imprimus - what would Mrs Mac say if, when you are confronted with a paragon of surgically enhanced nubility, you ask "Please can I take a photo of them, have a feel and go blubble" - if I tried that, Mrs GT would withdraw certain of my privelages - the first of which to go would be breathing.

Alpha K, you seem like a decent and civilised chap and I would give you this warning - dont go to Lil Dittys if you value your sanity, integrity, sense of humour, any civilised traits you think you have and your music taste - we were there the night before my mate's wedding cos his bride to be loves the place - he was having seconds thoughts I can tell you - I have never seem anything so disturbing in my life. Dont put yourself down as well, I am sure that you are winding us all up and Mrs Alpha K is really Roselyn Sanchez or some other lovely

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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Growltigga:

Dont put yourself down as well, I am sure that you are winding us all up and Mrs Alpha K is really Roselyn Sanchez or some other lovely<hr></blockquote>

Trust me, she is far better than any empty picture that can be seen on a screen. She is both beautiful and intelligent, but far more important, she understands me and who I am. She even puts up with my game addictions. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif Further, she actually encourages me to get more computer equipment, and she knows how to use it!!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif

Even better, she has no more desire to go to a place like Lil Ditty's than I do. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif

My previous comments were in reference to the fact that the majority of females shy away from us engineer types because we don't seem very exciting on the surface. I am not complaining. I am far better off, having found the one I have, than if I had managed to attract someone who would not understand what makes me tick.

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AK, that is wonderful, you are making me cry and I am glad you have a real soul mate.

Me, I just like racy latino lasses with big buffers and a lingerie selection out of Victoria's Secret http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif

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AK, does the Mrs really encourage you to buy more computer equip and play time? Hold on to that one they are few and far between. Gaming usually does not get along to well with women because it takes away from them, sigh, they just don't understand.


Growltigga, The human body, especially the female type, is probably one of the most studied objects in the world. In addition, it is used in more art work then any other single object. Therefore, any furtherance of research into this particular art form is well worth the endeavor to try and understand the make up of the ahh, umm, ahh, assets of those who are most fortunate. Mrs M. knows my preferences for those with exceptional, shall we say babba-loos, and has mentioned that fact to me on a number of occasions when I was observing the various forms of this particular art http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif Discretion during observations in this area must be incorporated into this type of research, (unless you want to sleep on the couch with the cats) if one is married.

Gryphin, I wish I could go with you on your research trek, but, alas, when one is married ones scientific activities are just nil. However, if you would make a journal concerning your hopeful discoveries, I would be more then happy to read them over upon your return to ascertain the sincere objectivity of your findings. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif


just some ideas mac

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Mac, babbaloos?? I have never heard that one before, well, you live and learn - discretion IS the better part of valour when it comes to activating the tottyscope in the presence of the wifey

I am happily sitting in a cafe on the Gran Via in Madrid watching all the racy latino types going shopping and Mrs GT just thinks I am typing an email to work - she doesnt realise my faraway gaze is actually concentrated on the Penelope Cruz lookalike with the zero gravity hooters walking into the Mango shop opposite!!

Guff, you are beginning to worry me - what do you do that involves hiking in the desert with a tape measure?

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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Gryphin:
Tig, You are beginning to worry me. What are you doing in Spain posting to this board???? Does your therapist know about your addiction? I mean, you are getting therapy? (I hope).<hr></blockquote>

My holiday doesn't actually start until Saturday -Today and Friday I am working - I have a project document to finish so I have decided to come out with wifey to Madrid early to finish working on it here (hence laptop) rather than Manchester. The problem is that our IT department have buggered up the conVersion so I am waiting for them to send me the document so I can work on it hence my presence on the forums (and the topless cheerleaders website).

What they dont know (the IT boys, not the cheerleaders) is that I have already pretty much finished the document and can relax tomorrow - I need to show that I am still working

Wifey doesn't want me with her anyway whilst she goes shopping - can't blame her there

You are the worrying one, having multiple girlfirends, CTW, wandering round deserts with tapemeasures, wearing that general custer hat and allowing some mange ridden furry rodent to inhabit your top lip

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

PS British folk do not need, or go to, therapists. We are naturally well adjusted and dont have continual hang ups like you NAs

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Considreing the other forum you visit, your speculation on "Circle the Wagons". and your hangup with my hat, I have my reservations about you you being well adjusted.
Tig, you know you can't begin to heal untill you admit you have a problem.

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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Gryphin:
Considreing the other forum you visit, your speculation on "Circle the Wagons". and your hangup with my hat, I have my reservations about you you being well adjusted.
Tig, you know you can't begin to heal untill you admit you have a problem.<hr></blockquote>

Oooohhhh, look who's talking!

I don't actually look at any ahem, adult related website - I am not even sure a topless cheerleaders website exists - like Alpha Kodiak, Mrs GTR is all I need (so she tells me) although some of the Spanish talent is phenomenal

In respect of the therapy, let me look at this from a professional viewpoint


"My lord, the prosecution asserts that it was Guffin Goodfellow who freely admitted that he regularily visits and participates in an adult website and that it is he who has brought the expression, 'circling the wagons' into the public domain and has alluded that this term has sexual connotations leading, naturally, to innocent speculation from all and sundry. My lord, if you should also consider visiting the defendants' website as an adjunct to this case, you will see that he is obviously the sort of inidividual who enthuses all aspects of his life with, to use the coloqiual parlance, a 'wild west' spirit. If you should consider my lord, this individual persuades not so young ladies to participate in 'circling the wagons', wears what can only be described as a general custer hat whilst doing so and, if the court can bear with me, allows a prairie dog to inhabit his top lip. He is also known to regularily visit the classic 'Wild West' landscape although no one is quite sure where he finds a use for a tape measure although our first witness, a Mr M Mac from Cesspool, Ohio has been known to make some interesting if anatomically impossible suggestions. My lord, to add to this and I might add, a indictable offence in its own right, the defendant freely admits to listening to country and western music. My lord, I would not even ask you to speculate if he does indeed own a pair of chaps and several cowboy boots.

My lord, the prosecution rests its case.

JUDGEMENT: 10 years of reconstructive therapy, isolation treatment and a complete ban from all rodeos and line dancing events

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My Lord, I ask you to consider the source.
I hereby proffer the following not in self deffence but in an effort to enlighten the Tig, (however futile it may be).
1) A close examination of the aformentioned hat and comparisons to that of the one worn by General Custer that they are clearly not even close in any way shape or form.
2) I do not now and there is no evidence that I have ever attended an establishment that allowed line dancing. My vision makes such an enviorment unsafe for me.
3) Mr. Tig fails to point out that I also listen to Classicla music, Read Shakespere, Kipling, and Tolkien as can also be scene at my web site.
Again, I ask you to consider that Mr. Tig left this off his statements.
4) I do own two pair of western style boots. They protect my shins from unseen objects. This is the same reason I wear Hats with wide brins.
5) I at no time implyed that "cirlcle the wagons" had any other connotation than as a defensive posture taken by troops and people when under attack. This was clearly explained in the same forum. Mr Tig expressed dissapointment that it had no other meaning.
6) As for the Gryphin Position. This is performed only with consenting adults and is no way illeagle here or in stuffy old England.
7) I refuse to even speculate what Mr Tig had in mind as to how I use my tape measure on the trail.
I hearby appologise for Mr Tig taking up so much of your valueble time.

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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Gryphin:
My Lord, I ask you to consider the source.
I hereby proffer the following not in self deffence but in an effort to enlighten the Tig, (however futile it may be).
1) A close examination of the aformentioned hat and comparisons to that of the one worn by General Custer that they are clearly not even close in any way shape or form.
2) I do not now and there is no evidence that I have ever attended an establishment that allowed line dancing. My vision makes such an enviorment unsafe for me.
3) Mr. Tig fails to point out that I also listen to Classicla music, Read Shakespere, Kipling, and Tolkien as can also be scene at my web site.
Again, I ask you to consider that Mr. Tig left this off his statements.
4) I do own two pair of western style boots. They protect my shins from unseen objects. This is the same reason I wear Hats with wide brins.
5) I at no time implyed that "cirlcle the wagons" had any other connotation than as a defensive posture taken by troops and people when under attack. This was clearly explained in the same forum. Mr Tig expressed dissapointment that it had no other meaning.
6) As for the Gryphin Position. This is performed only with consenting adults and is no way illeagle here or in stuffy old England.
7) I refuse to even speculate what Mr Tig had in mind as to how I use my tape measure on the trail.
I hearby appologise for Mr Tig taking up so much of your valueble time.<hr></blockquote>

DEFENCE SUBMISSION OVERRULED - JUDGEMENT STANDS

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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Gryphin:
My Lord, I ask you to consider the source.
I hereby proffer the following not in self deffence but in an effort to enlighten the Tig, (however futile it may be).
1) A close examination of the aformentioned hat and comparisons to that of the one worn by General Custer that they are clearly not even close in any way shape or form. [QB]

could have fooled me, you look just like him from 'Little Big Man'

[QB]2) I do not now and there is no evidence that I have ever attended an establishment that allowed line dancing. My vision makes such an enviorment unsafe for me. [QB]

Prove it


[QB]3) Mr. Tig fails to point out that I also listen to Classicla music, Read Shakespere, Kipling, and Tolkien as can also be scene at my web site.[QB]

Yeah yeah but the point is you are still a Garth Brooks fan

[QB]Again, I ask you to consider that Mr. Tig left this off his statements. [QB]

ooh the truth hurts

[QB]4) I do own two pair of western style boots. They protect my shins from unseen objects. This is the same reason I wear Hats with wide brins. [QB]

he likes to wear wide brimmed hats to protect his shins?? the boy is mad??

anyway, legally, A CONFESSION, A CONFESSION

[QB] 5) I at no time implyed that "cirlcle the wagons" had any other connotation than as a defensive posture taken by troops and people when under attack. This was clearly explained in the same forum. Mr Tig expressed dissapointment that it had no other meaning. [QB]

M'lord, the phrase CTW was mentioned by reference to it being discussed on an adult forum - please refer to the normal sort of discussions held on adult forums in order to ascertain the likely content and preamble into this topic

[QB] 6) As for the Gryphin Position. This is performed only with consenting adults and is no way illeagle here or in stuffy old England. [QB]

Don't bet on that, in Cheshire, you can still legally be birched for felching

[QB]7) I refuse to even speculate what Mr Tig had in mind as to how I use my tape measure on the trail. [QB]

The prosecution counsel is speculatin gin the absence of information. Unless you can prove that you work for the National Distance and Meausrement Recording Bureau, you will be guilty until proven innocent

[QB] I hearby appologise for Mr Tig taking up so much of your valueble time.[QB]

Guards, take him to the cells

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Re: Gryphin and Growltigga Thread
 

ROFL http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Re: Gryphin and Growltigga Thread
 

I hereby reject the decision of the court. I will submit soley to a jury of my peers: That would be the members of this formum.
I ask all present to cast their vote:
Guilty
Inocent
Naive

Re: Gryphin and Growltigga Thread
 

LOL, I must attend a meeting shortly, but I shall reserve judgement upon receiving your briefs, (as is in Law that is, not the other kind, ha,ha http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif ) after which I shall render my findings which shall be objective in nature, taking into account what little evidence has been submitted and the review of these possible web sites as mentioned in these proceedings to affect the truth in that which has been stated, This shall only be my, single findings, other verdicts from other members of this forum shall not be included as they also have the right to comment and reach their own conclusions. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

just some ideas mac

Re: Gryphin and Growltigga Thread
 

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Gryphin:
I hereby reject the decision of the court. I will submit soley to a jury of my peers: That would be the members of this formum.
I ask all present to cast their vote:
Guilty
Inocent
Naive<hr></blockquote>

PERJURY!!!!

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon8.gif how dare you cast contempt on these proceedings by describing the other members of this worthy forum as your peers. Peers means equals

Are you trying to say that we are all dodgy hat wearing, old womanising misanthropic cheap dodgy desert-orientated deviants partial to unmentioneable sexual practices with predilections for sticking small furry rodents under our nostrils????!!!!!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

Re: Gryphin and Growltigga Thread
 

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by mottlee:
ROFL http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif <hr></blockquote>

What does ROFL mean? this court only understands Latin (and Spanish "dos cerveza por favor")

Re: Gryphin and Growltigga Thread
 

Guards! Enough of this! They are both guilty! Take them away and torture them. Or, even better, lock them in one cell for the next month. Now take them away!

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Re: Gryphin and Growltigga Thread
 

Mephisto Sounds good to me, but only if we can have a pair of networked 1.7ghz, computers with net access and SE IV installed. Plus a copy of SE IV gold when it comes out.

Re: Gryphin and Growltigga Thread
 

Tig, Yes, I do think we are peers here and find your description unacceptable. (though possibly true).

Re: Gryphin and Growltigga Thread
 

Excuse me Mephisto, donkeys are not allowed in this court room, please remove yourself http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

Re: Gryphin and Growltigga Thread
 

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Gryphin:
Tig, Yes, I do think we are peers here and find your description unacceptable. (though possibly true).<hr></blockquote>

Hmmm, legally it cannot be unacceptable if it is true.

Therefore, we have another CONFESSION!!!!!!!

Hmmm, I am only your peer to the extent we both play SEIV - I am not sure Alpha Kodiak, Phoenix D, Suicide Junkie, Mephisto (the mule) or the rest would want to be considered equals to me or necessarily I to them. And as for Mac!!!!

Re: Gryphin and Growltigga Thread
 

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Growltigga:
Excuse me Mephisto, donkeys are not allowed in this court room, please remove yourself http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif <hr></blockquote>

Well, at least people get a warm and fuzzy feeling with me where you are just a bold cold green something. And I can talk much faster then you! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Re: Gryphin and Growltigga Thread
 

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Growltigga:


What does ROFL mean? this court only understands Latin (and Spanish "dos cerveza por favor")<hr></blockquote>
OK...OK ROFL= Rolling On Floor Laughing (is realy to be ROFLMAO)My A** Off
I hope this clear up any miss understanding http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Re: Gryphin and Growltigga Thread
 

I have still not had a chance to research the submissions to the court in order to render an unbiased, objective decision in regards to a vote of guility, not guilty, not guilty by reason of insanity or naive. Its been a day from h... around here so far.

"Bold cold Green Something",?? (uuh ooh) BMT

"A warm Fuzzy Feeling with Me" BMT

"And as for MAC" Ah, thank you tigga for your inferrence of being your Peer, http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif I knew us older more mature, experienced, scientific based, unbiased, very objective, discreet, honorable adults would show forth and have an affect on you younger generation wipper snappers. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif

I do have to get back to surfing the net for those sites as mentioned earlier, as stated in your case, I have already reviewed "The Gryphin" site and must force myself to locate the Adult site where CTW commenced even tho it might be rough going, I must force myself in order to render my most unbiased and objective vote after close study and soul searching once it is located and my legal research is conducted. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif sigh... What one must go thru to find the truth on one's statments or ascertations. BUT, someone has to do it http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

PS; what do you have against "wearing shorts", don't they have them over there????

just some ideas mac

[ 14 February 2002: Message edited by: mac5732 ]</p>

Re: Gryphin and Growltigga Thread
 

Tig, You are beginning to worry me. What are you doing in Spain posting to this board???? Does your therapist know about your addiction? I mean, you are getting therapy? (I hope).

Re: Gryphin and Growltigga Thread
 

I have exhaustivly researched the charges that were brought here within. And I would like to list my findings as only 1 member of this forum.

1. After an extended, exhausting, but relentless time consuming search, and after visiting a good number of adult and X, XX, XXX, sites, I found that the majority of the depositions taken from those I discussed this case with, stated that the CTW or "The Gryphin Position" is still in the experimental stage of development. Even though numerous theories and descriptions were put foreward, there was no positive proof for or against the Gryphin being on an adult site where this research was discussed. (tho I have a feeling he used a non deplume so as not to be traced) And even though he admitted to his involvement in the use and experimentation of this new phenomena, unless or until he publishes his findings in book form (along with scientific photos) in either one of those most noteworthy of magazines such as "Enquirer, or the Star" or put into the 101 known positions as number 103, ( the "Twinkle is numbe 102)I'm afraid that there is not enough evidence for or against. Therefore, I must consider this charge to remain open until further interrogatories can be accomplished. Findings - Inconclusive

2. In regards to the "rodent" under his lip, I printed the photo from his web site and conferred with a number of experts within the scientific commmunity here at some of our universities near where I live. After microscopic examinations of blown up photos of the "thing" in question, and after hours of deliberations, extensive study and along with cross referencing the known rodents within the U.S. it was discovered that this was in fact not a rodent but what we call around these parts as a "Wooly Bear", or commonly known as a variety of catepillar. This particular species is long, furry and quite larger then the normal variety seen most everywhere else but is usually more prevalent in the winter months. Everyone felt that a DNA test would bear out these findings unquestionably if further proof was required by the court.
Findings ; In favor of the Gryphin

3. In regards to the question of whether the Gyphin Line Dances, his own deposition shows that he listens to Country Western music, wears cowboy boots, has a very questionable hat with a wide brim and goes on hikes in the Wild Western portions of the U.S. Therefore, I must agree with Growltigga on this point, in all probability, the Gryphin does indeed frequent these types of establishments and does indulge in this form of wild native rituals called "Line Dancing". Therefore his denial and Alibi is dismissed. Findings; Favor of Growltigga,

4. Last, in regards to his "Custer Hat", again blown up images were used and after careful study
it was indeed decided that the article in question lacked any type of arrows, holes, feathers, tumble weed or other materials that would would have been present had this indeed be a "Custer Hat". Comparisons were made of various hats worn by a number of the macho western type males and it was determined that the "hat" in question resembled more of a "John Wayne" type style. This in itself raised a number of questions that can not be answered without further investigation. Therefore,
Findings - in favor of the Gryphin

These are only my personal findings and should not be construed as those by any other members of the forum.

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just some ideas (very tired Mac)

[ 15 February 2002: Message edited by: mac5732 ]</p>

Re: Gryphin and Growltigga Thread
 

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by [K126]Mephisto:


Well, at least people get a warm and fuzzy feeling with me where you are just a bold cold green something. And I can talk much faster then you! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif <hr></blockquote>

true, but then I am the star of the show, the one who is useful in a fight and more importantly, I GET THE GIRL - you get to snog a lizard