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trooper March 10th, 2003 11:49 PM

Re: The List of all Races
 
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Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
I still don't see why posting direct links to zip files for sets that do not have a web page is a bad thing. You do not really lose anything from not having whatever little amount of information was in the post for the download.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I definitively agree with you (for shipsets available only on this forum). The main problem is to locate each file in the forum !!! if you find one, will you be sure it's the latest Version ?

trooper March 11th, 2003 06:58 PM

Re: The List of all Races
 
I'm trying to contact the authors of the shipsets which cannot be downloaded from the list. I see that three shipsets can be found on a dead site once called "IM".
Whose site is this ?

In the same time, I ask to any shipset author who don't have a site, and don't want his creations to be forgotten at the bottom of a forum thread, to allow me to create a preview and download page for his races on State of the art spaceyards.

Andrés March 11th, 2003 08:32 PM

Re: The List of all Races
 
There are a few "Other downloads" in the bottom of Zarix's Mirror of the Image Mod.
The link seems to be working now.

Everybody seems to agree it's ok to post direct links to zips in these forums.
A good way to start this would be checking the download section of these forums and copy all links there, assuming that what was Last posted there is the Last Version.

Thanks Trooper, I'll add your updated links ASAP.
Maybe it would be better if you would keep and update this list in your site.
Having contributed with the initial list maybe it's time I leave and let someone else take charge of this project.

dogscoff March 11th, 2003 08:36 PM

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Beuargh !
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">What a wonderfully french sounds effect. Thanks Trooper, it made me laugh=-)

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In the same time, I ask to any shipset author who don't have a site, and don't want his creations to be forgotten at the bottom of a forum thread, to allow me to create a preview and download page for his races on State of the art spaceyards.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I'm also willing to host a few more sets on my site. I have the Vandron there and of course my own sets, but there's still room for more.

Fyron March 11th, 2003 09:01 PM

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Originally posted by trooper:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
I still don't see why posting direct links to zip files for sets that do not have a web page is a bad thing. You do not really lose anything from not having whatever little amount of information was in the post for the download.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I definitively agree with you (for shipsets available only on this forum). The main problem is to locate each file in the forum !!! if you find one, will you be sure it's the latest Version ?</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Better to have an old Version linked than no Version linked.

trooper March 11th, 2003 09:58 PM

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Originally posted by Andr&eacutes Lescano:

Thanks Trooper, I'll add your updated links ASAP.
Maybe it would be better if you would keep and update this list in your site.
Having contributed with the initial list maybe it's time I leave and let someone else take charge of this project.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well, that's a thing I can do. Just tell me when you have finished your updates.

Any info about "IM" ?

trooper March 11th, 2003 10:10 PM

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Originally posted by dogscoff:
What a wonderfully french sounds effect. Thanks Trooper, it made me laugh=-)
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">It's very popular in France. It comes for a comic TV show where famous persons appears as puppets. Sylvester Stalone's puppet, who always plays the role of the typical american soldier/capitalist/president advisor always start his sentences with that sound... (refering to Rambo films).

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I'm also willing to host a few more sets on my site. I have the Vandron there and of course my own sets, but there's still room for more.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The harder thing is to contact authors, many of them seems to have forgotten SE IV. BTW, do you know Shadri Republic ? it's a great 100% neo standard compatible shipset, but it has no preview page.

Fyron : Now that I've spent a few days shearching the forums (and that I've understooden that a huge part of the downloadbale files are on another part of schrapnelgames site), I think I'll be able to find working direct links for the list. But I hope that the coolest shipsets will have a preview page.

[ March 11, 2003, 20:12: Message edited by: trooper ]

Fyron March 12th, 2003 03:38 AM

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Fyron : Now that I've spent a few days shearching the forums (and that I've understooden that a huge part of the downloadbale files are on another part of schrapnelgames site), I think I'll be able to find working direct links for the list. But I hope that the coolest shipsets will have a preview page.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yes, web sites would be good, but that takes a lot of bandwidth for all of those shipsets. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif If we had a big server to use, I would advocate using Andres' race viewer 2.0 to create a database of the ship sets, but that costs a bit of money. So, it is easier to just link to the files. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Andrés March 12th, 2003 07:07 AM

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The Legion Imperium is called "the legion" on PBW
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I'd swear that theis empire type is Imperium, what makes their entire full name The Legion Imperium.

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Any info about "IM" ?
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">That's a link that Zarix had posted earlier on this thead.
It points to his mirror of the Image Mod, and as I had said, there are a few shipsets labeled as "Other downloads" in the bottom after all image mod downloads.
And it seemed to work quite fine every time I tried.

Katchoo March 12th, 2003 07:24 AM

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Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
Yes, web sites would be good, but that takes a lot of bandwidth for all of those shipsets. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif If we had a big server to use, I would advocate using Andres' race viewer 2.0 to create a database of the ship sets, but that costs a bit of money. So, it is easier to just link to the files. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">How much space are we talking about here? My brother has Rogers High Speed, and gets access to 7 E-Mail accounts with 10MB of webspace for each account. I know he's using a few of the address', but, if 30MB would do the trick, I could probably get the space allocated and prepared.

trooper March 12th, 2003 09:36 AM

Re: The List of all Races
 
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Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
Yes, web sites would be good, but that takes a lot of bandwidth for all of those shipsets. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif If we had a big server to use, I would advocate using Andres' race viewer 2.0 to create a database of the ship sets, but that costs a bit of money. So, it is easier to just link to the files. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Oh, bandwith isn't that expensive, all my web spaces (about 5 at this time) are free. and I've room left for a bunch of shipsets. The main pb with the race viewwer is that it uses the .bmp pictures, which are very heavy... not a solution I would use.

dogscoff March 12th, 2003 10:39 AM

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BTW, do you know Shadri Republic ? it's a great 100% neo standard compatible shipset, but it has no preview page.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">No, I've never heard of it. I'll look it up and update the neo-standard site accordingly.

EDIT: The Shadri link on the race list needs updating:-) Here's the direct link to the zip: http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/newup...1009374387.zip

As for the display pages: They don't all have to be on the same site. A geocities account or something similar would be enough for one or two shipsets. If each author did that, and then the race list linked to them all... I'm sure it wouldn't be hard for some codehead to modify the race viewer to accept gifs or jpegs, then it would be really really easy to set up such a site.

Also, there are plenty of shipyards willing to host sets. I'm aware that many authors seem to have abandoned their sets, so we're unlikely to achieve 100%, but we could probably make the whole shipset finding/viewing/downloading process much easier.

[ March 12, 2003, 08:47: Message edited by: dogscoff ]

Fyron March 12th, 2003 10:49 PM

Re: The List of all Races
 
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Originally posted by trooper:
Oh, bandwith isn't that expensive, all my web spaces (about 5 at this time) are free. and I've room left for a bunch of shipsets. The main pb with the race viewwer is that it uses the .bmp pictures, which are very heavy... not a solution I would use.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Which is why you edit it to use a different file format. Replace all .bmp with .png, .jpg, whatever.

Bandwidth and server space for a few ship sets is minimal. But for 100s of ship sets, it adds up. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[ March 12, 2003, 20:49: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

trooper March 12th, 2003 11:13 PM

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http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif It works with jpg files ??? I'll have to test that !

trooper March 14th, 2003 09:54 AM

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Andres, are you alright with the updates of the race dir ? I'm about to finish the pirates shipset, so I'll have plenty of time and lots of ideas to improve it (annotations on races, mods compliance, demo picture...).

Fyron March 14th, 2003 11:26 AM

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Originally posted by trooper:
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif It works with jpg files ??? I'll have to test that !
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I said you could change it to work with jpgs. Just edit the file, and replace ".bmp" with ".jpg". However, png is a far better file format. There is no loss of color information as in jpg, and the file size is only a bit larger than jpg.

mlmbd March 16th, 2003 06:50 PM

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Here is the link to the thread of the Puntherraian Shipset (as it is not just one zip file);

Puntherraian's

<font color=purple>mlmbd http://www.shrapnelgames.com//ubb/icons/icon6.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif </font>

[ March 16, 2003, 16:51: Message edited by: mlmbd ]

trooper March 17th, 2003 10:32 AM

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Andres, that's strange : most races seems to appear twice in your list... Is it a maintenance error ?

trooper March 17th, 2003 11:20 AM

Re: The List of all Races
 
Hi.
I looking for those particular races :
They are all made by Hadrian Avantine, who told me that he stopped playing the game and doesn't have them left on his hard drive.

Certadosh Internation
Federal Union Junon
Davisol Noble Kingdom
Dugel Regime
Mok / Akah
League of Empire? (dir : LEAGUEOFEMPIRES?)
Zedron Empire

If you could gave a link or email me any (please write here what you have send, or i'll get dozains of redundant emails !) it would be great...

-> eric.bergbauer@free.fr

Rexxx March 17th, 2003 01:49 PM

Re: The List of all Races
 
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Originally posted by trooper:
Hi.
I looking for those particular races :
They are all made by Hadrian Avantine, who told me that he stopped playing the game and doesn't have them left on his hard drive.

Certadosh Internation
Federal Union Junon
Davisol Noble Kingdom
Dugel Regime
Mok / Akah
League of Empire? (dir : LEAGUEOFEMPIRES?)
Zedron Empire

If you could gave a link or email me any (please write here what you have send, or i'll get dozains of redundant emails !) it would be great...

-> eric.bergbauer@free.fr

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I have got:
Certadosh Internation
Federal Union Junon
Mok
Akah
MokAkah
League of Empires
Zedron Empire

I can send you the files tonight.

trooper March 17th, 2003 03:07 PM

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Great.

I've finally found Zedron shipset. You won't have to send it to me.

The dugel regime seems to be the only one that you don't have... Does anyone got it ?

Andres, I've found some missing links :

United Colours Empire & utopian brotherhood can be found here :
http://solar-outpost.com/debot/jbeech.html

Sovereign Pacean Directorate and Aleskander House Sector can be downloaded here :

http://solar-outpost.com/debot/hadrian.html

Unified Terran Empire & Phoenix Agressive are there : http://solar-outpost.com/debot/gvaughn.html

[ March 17, 2003, 13:42: Message edited by: trooper ]

trooper March 21st, 2003 07:26 PM

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Nobody has Davisol Noble Kingdom or Dugel Regime somewhere on his hard drive ? I won't believe it !

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Andres, are you still working on the list or can I take it in hand ? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[ March 21, 2003, 17:29: Message edited by: trooper ]

Andrés March 21st, 2003 08:35 PM

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I have them both but slightly edited by myself, if nothing better can be found I'll send you those.

Raging Deadstar March 21st, 2003 08:54 PM

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As i post i'm trying to send you the davisol and dugel zips, hope it works but i'm on a 56 k so it could take a while! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Edit: Forgot to mention they are both unedited and from spaceempires.org before it closed

Edit 2: I also added state of the art shipyards to the important seiv links and stuff sticky, you deserve to be included in there!

[ March 21, 2003, 19:13: Message edited by: Raging Deadstar ]

trooper March 22nd, 2003 12:58 AM

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RD : thanks for your link and for the two shipsets, I'll make them available for download this WE.

Most of the shipsets I propose on SOTAS come from spaceempires.org, which is probably history. I came to an agrement with Fang Tsu, the site owner and Hadrian Avantine, the races creator. So I won't end up in jail. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Andres : mmmm...and what about the race dir http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif ?

trooper March 27th, 2003 01:24 AM

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Still looking for old forgotten stuff, in order to bring it to life again.

Seeking today :

Brachyura School
Neo canadian (with good AI)
Centaury republc
Chillian Imperium
Adumbrate Empire
Army of light
Army of darkness
Chaos Legion

By the way, there have been some minor changes made to the list... just have a look and you'll see.


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