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Well you know what they say, "no spoos is bad spoos..." http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif |
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I think this is a perfectly legitimate tactic. If anyone can afford the resources to close down the necessary 23 warp points in my gargantuan empire, they are welcome to try. But I would be utterly astounded if the game went on long enough for any one to try this tactic. If you are so rich and powerful you can afford to build these closers, how did you manage to NOT eliminate anyone? Instead I would suggest that when, say, 6 or fewer players are left, the lost contact rule should no longer apply. Kim |
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Hi Geoschmo
I was on the game site and tried e-mailing the administrator. It came saying "Mailbox not available." Here is what I tried to e-mail Quote:
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Hmmm Geoschmo e-mailed me in response to my e-mail.
Yet I have the return notice in the figurative hands of my computer. Go figure |
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I would like to "upload my empire" to the tournament.
I vaguely remember reading something on how to do this--that is construction the empire (ship-set, empire icon etc) and then uploading the results. Does anybody know where it is. I can't find anything on site (FAQ's) which explains how to view a prospective ship-set? How do you do it? The Space Empires IV Gold Manual has 2 pages on "TCP/IP Games. Is the the same as PBW? |
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Now, save that empire. Where in SEIV folder is up to you. I don't like to save mine to the Empires folder because then I may end up playing a solo game against myself! LOL. Shut down the game and go to PBW game screen, click on upload empire and you will be led through the rest. Make sure you know the name of the shipset you are using so you can indicate that as others have done with theirs. (All stock shipsets are labled "Stock" followed by the actual name). Many of the shipsets of your opponents will not be on your computer. Click on each of those shipset (in blue below each empire name) and a zip file will download to your computer. Unzip them and stick these in the pictures/races folder. Different people set these up in different ways, so check that each one you download is in the proper file. You may find some without a folder of its own. Make one and put the files in there. Others will have the folder buried three folders deep. Look for a folder named "pictures" within your "races" folder. I'm not sure if you can preview shipsets in the PBW files. Those in your own SEIV folder can be viewed with any picture viewer-- or in the new game setup. Kim [ August 24, 2002, 21:46: Message edited by: Grandpakim ] |
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tbonbot, I e-mailed a reply to your "Change Password" question yesterday.
Geo, PM. |
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Players, Ok looks like Agrakil has withdrawn from game two. So that means he is eliminated and this round is over for the players in game two according to the rules I set down at the beginning of the tourney. We still need to eliminate one player from game one before we can set up round two though.
Told you it would be more of a test of stamina than anything else. Course even I figured we'd get through 6 turns. It wouldn't suprise me if most of you haven't even met anybody else yet. Those of you in game one keep playing. As soon as someone is eliminated we'll call that one and get started on round two. This is the worst part cause half of you have to wait for a while. Once we get down to twenty players total this won't happen of course. Geoschmo |
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OK, so it's been almost a month now. How is the other game going? Inquiring minds want to know! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif
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Yeah really. Is anyone even close to being finished off yet? I'm getting anxious to play the next game. I'm still messing around in game 2 with two others passing time.
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Well, I have been hearing for a few turns now reports from various parts of the galaxy of one guy or the other about to be killed off. But it appears that they are all hanging on tenaciously.
This WON't be the way it is every round, I assure you. This first round has been skewed by the fact that one guy dropped outbasically at the start, only plying one turn before doing so. Geoschmo |
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Umm... maybe we could help kill somebody off?... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif
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Could you loan me a few dreadnoughts? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif I promise to return them to you. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif (tbontob skulks away in a dark grey overcoat believing that no one has observed him) Edited for spelling [ September 30, 2002, 14:33: Message edited by: tbontob ] |
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Tesco just lost 16 ships in my minefield, so no progress on that front. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif
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I will be back in 3 turns with some additional ships added to the next fleet. Yep Mine sweepers. Fear not I will keep my promise http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif
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Well, looks like tesco will start researching minesweeper technology right away... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif
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Hey guys
Is round 1 of game 1 not over? Like, I mean, a player has missed 5 consecutive turns. Yet, I recieved notification of a new turn. |
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The first round of game 1 is over!
Game 1, Round 1 officially started on August 22nd for game empires. The first turn of Round 1 started on August 28th. This is going to be a long game when one considers: 1) 8 more rounds before Game1 and Game2 join up 2) 19 more rounds to discover the winner. Let’s see how long: ------------------------------------ (Tbontob pulls out an abacus and madly starts pushing beads back and forth until he suddenly realizes he does not know how to use an abacus! He considers taking a course “Using the abacus 101” at the local university but finds it will take a year to complete. He sadly contemplates the smoking ruin of his hand held calculator which had been used to determine “the nature of the quark in its relation to a black hole” and for which he is certain he will win the Nobel Prize. He starts to panic when he realizes that he will actually have to use some brain cells to calculate the amount of time it will take to complete the game.) ---------------------------------------- Figuring 27 more rounds at approximately one and a third months per round, it will take us about three years (October, 2005) to complete the game. And this is probably an optimistic estimate. In both Games1 and Game2, a player dropped out to end it! Chances are that it may take as long as 2006 and even beyond. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif |
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Yep yep! Round 1 is over. Moncan bailed and missed five turns with no notice. Hopefully he is allright and everything, but the tournamnet will not wait for him.
Congratulations to all who survived round one. Looks like at least game 1 lived up to the promise. Got some really fun stuff going back and forth. Alliances, and enemies. One guy at least got through round 1 by the skin of his teeth, and I am sure he is very eager to meet up with his attackers in round 2. Yes, should be quite interesting... Games wiil be put up on PBW shortly and you will have a week to get joined up. In true Survivor fasion, I am considering some minor changes to the format. Nothing drastic. It shouldn't affect your strategy too much, but stay tuned for more details. Geoschmo |
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How about if players get assigned to game 1 or game 2 by random draw?
Just an idea. Rollo |
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Damn it... that screws everything up...
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The fact that the round is over...
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Geo:
Please abbreviate Survivor Multiplayer Elimination Tournament in the future. The insane length of the game names is rather annoying... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif |
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yeah, SMET is better http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif
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Hehe. I was down to three planets (none of which was my homeworld). ZERO resource production. One was rioting and blockaded. All had enemy ships just a turn away. And on top of that I had to scrap my few remaining research facilities just to build a couple mines.
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Coincdentally I did appreviate it somewhat in this round. The game names are Svr2rd2g1 and Svr2rd2g2. Is that better? Geoschmo |
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I meant the name of the game on PBW, not the filename. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif |
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Oh, Well that will have to wait till next round. I can't change it after I created the game. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
EDIT: Oh, and I guess it doesn't help that I mispelled "Emlimination" again. Doh! [ October 05, 2002, 23:53: Message edited by: geoschmo ] |
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Two, I really like the idea of letting people pick and choose which game they are going to be in. If they have someone they want to play with because of a prearanged alliance, or someone they particuarly want to knock out of the tourney http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif this way they can make it happen. Geoschmo |
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yup, very understandable. especially the 'lazy' part http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif
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I can only imagine the political ramifications of what happened in round one... round 2 should be interesting indeed http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif
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Players,
Round 2 signups are almost complete. Four more players to join. Some of you that have joined also need to get your empire files uploaded. If you were paying attention you may have noticed I hinted at some possible format changes a few days ago. I am ready to tell you what that is now. It's not anything too drastic, but they are changes. There was some in depth discussion about ways to speed the tournament up. Mainly the suggestion was made to keep the players separated into two Groups, and allow each group to start the next round as soon as they completed the current one. While this is not a bad suggestion, and it is one I considered prior to the start of round one, I decided against it for two reasons. First and foremost, I wanted you to be able to pick which game you are in as long as the tournament is large enough to force more than one game. This allows you the maximum flexibility to play with, or against, or to avoid particular people if you wish to in the early rounds of the tournament. The second reason is while the current format is likely to be a small amount longer in total, the difference will be not that great, and the amount of time any one particular person would have to sit idle would be split up into smaller, more manageable chunks between each round. Instead of half the players sitting idle for weeks or months between rounds 10 and 11. That being said I am making some changes to hopefully compromise a bit and speed things up somewhat, without radically altering the tournament format or taking away your freedom of choice. First of all, starting now and until further notice if you are going to miss more than THREE consecutive game turns, you must notify me by email AND the other players by posting something in the game forum. The old rule was five turns. That is now THREE turns. PLEASE NOTE, this DOES NOT mean you can't miss more than three turns. I understand people have lives, have vacations, get sick, etc. I am not being unreasonable. All I am saying is you have to miss turns, let us know so we don't wait all that time wondering if you are coming back, only to have you never come back. It happens. It happened twice in the first round. The second change is this. I call it the "second chance protocol". Starting with round 2 and continuing until further notice if a player is eliminated due to abandoning the game during the first 20 turns, we will continue playing that game until one of the following occurs: A second player is eliminated due to abandoning the game. or One or more players are eliminated through actual in game annihilation/surrender. Once the next player is eliminated from that game either before or after the 20th round, that game will end. If a player is eliminated due to in game annihilation/surrender prior to round 20 and no one in that game has been eliminated due to abandonment prior to that point, the game will stop at that point. If more than one player is eliminated by any means on the same turn, that game will cease at that point. If a player leaves a game due to abandonment before the 20th turn and the game excersices the "Second Chance Protocol" I will take over that empire and eliminate them in game by scrapping ships and abandoning colonies. I am aware this may result in slight discrepancies between games as far as the number of players are concerned. I do not think it is critical as at most it will result in one extra person being eliminated from one game. I think that slight discrepancy is worth the time that will be saved off the end of the tournament. One other thing. This isn't really a change, but a clarification. I mention it because it almost happened in round 1. If a player is eliminated due to abandonment (excluding the conditions detailed above), the game is declared over at the moment the turn commences processing the third consecutive turn missed without notice. If an in game elimination were to occur during that turn as it processes, the person that would have been eliminated will be deemed not to have been eliminated. The reason is that none of the subsequent processing of the turn is relevant due to the fact that the game was declared over the moment the turn commenced processing. (That's a fancy way of saying, "Ties go to the runner. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif ) Let's get those empires loaded. And have fun! Geoschmo |
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Gorgo you just made it. That fleet next to your planet on that Last turn could sweep 160 mines... And I had split it to attack your 3 planets that round... So if you did not have greater than 60 to 80 mines above your planets you were dead. But the game ended, no biggie...
So good luck in round two and enjoy the game. Take Care. It was interesting to say the least |
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Carnifex,georgig,TheBratt,docshane,
You have succesfully joined a round two game, but you have not yet uploaded your empire file. You have 24 hours to do so (or at least contact me) or YOU WILL BE ELIMINATED from the tournament. -------------------------- Edly the Deadly,GozGUY,mark_w, You have not yet joined a round two game despite earning a spot by surviving through round one. You have 24 hours to join a game, get approved and get your empire uploaded or YOU WILL BE ELIMINATED from the tournament. Geoschmo |
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The second round has started.
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yep... good luck everyone
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So how goes the Tournie?
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AFAIK it's going pretty good. We've had one player drop out and the second chance rule came into play. So we still waiting on a empire to lose or another player to drop. We are currently at 2402.7. Any more details Geo will have to answer.
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One round 2 game has finished. Someone didn't read the rule about taking out the PBW admins and eliminated LazarusLong. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif
The other game looks to be moving along nicely. As soon as it finishes we will start round 3. Geoschmo |
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Seriously, though... they got me fair and square... and good. Having three people's ships converging on your homeworld is an interesting, if not pretty, sight... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif |
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Does that mean i am the Last PBW admin left in this tourney http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif
Well i'll try to put on a good show then http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif |
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We will hunt you down like a dog.
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Hahahaha
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Round 2 is over. We had another player eliminated by rule for missing three consecutive turns with no notice in the forum. Congradulations all who survived. The round 3 games are set up and you will have one week to get joined approved and your empire uploaded.
I know of at least one person who will be taking an extended leave during the early part of round 3. Make sure that if you are going to miss three turns in a row or more that you post something in the game forum for your round 3 game. Sending me an email is fine too, but please do not rely soley on an email to me. Email is unreliable. Posting in the forum is the only way to guarantee you won't lose your spot due to absence. I have had some requests to take a break over the holidays. Sorry, but we aren't going to be doing that. I understand some people may not like this, but it's something I made perfectly clear to everyone before the start of round 1. You have the option of finding a replacement or allowing the AI to play your turns in your absence. But the games will go on. Geoschmo |
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Minor rule change. Starting resources will be 100,000, and starting planets will be good. This should give you a small nudge early on and get the games moving a little faster. Could make for some interesting situations for anyone starting close together. Do you ally together, or go for a quick kill?
Round three signups are well underway. Those that have not signed up yet have until Thursday morning EST to do so. We are still waiting on five players to apply to join. And a few that have signed up have not uploaded their empires yet. We do have an unusual circumstance that I want to make everyone aware of. Askan made a post in the round two game forum that he would be out of town from the 29th to the 13th. I had hoped he would get my message about round 2 ending before he left town, but apparently he didn't. I stated at the begining of the tourney if this happened and I was aware of the absence up front I would make allowance for it. I will be playing Askan's empire for the first few turns. When he returns from vacation he can take it back over. I am not on par with Askan, but I think I can do better than the AI. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif Geoschmo EDIT: Correction. Only waiting on two player to apply for round 3. Forgot we had a few withdraw between round 1 and 2. Total number of players left in the tourney at this point is 28. [ December 02, 2002, 19:26: Message edited by: geoschmo ] |
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