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Ed, Wiki IS case sensitive. And we could end up with separate pages for 'Fighter' and 'fighter' if we are not careful. Actually, we could end up with 4 separate pages if you throw in 'Fighters' and 'fighters'. This is why Lazarus has been trying to establish some consistant standards early on.

Geoschmo

[ October 29, 2002, 20:22: Message edited by: geoschmo ]

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Regarding the "Armor" vs "Armour", and other such spelling issues.
IMO, the best way is to spell it the way it is spelt in the game. Anybody who is looking these things up will probably use the spelling they see on their SE4 window http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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What are the standards? lower case no plural? that sounds right but im not sure and if that's so i've already violated that.

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Right. Standards for article titles are:

Lowercase (unless (1) something's normally capitalized or (2) there's some other good reason for capitalization, as in Alphabetical Index (a very important page) or Imperial Ego (because it's talking about Ego and makes sense))
No plurals (again, unless something would make less sense without. "resources" and "shields" come to mind.)
No abbreviations
American spelling

Of course, if you say "armour" or "colour" in the *text* of your article, we won't complain. I think I need to post these in a "Standards" page http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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Here's a good thread for general info

http://www.shrapnelgames.com/cgi-bin...18;p=12#000166

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yay, I get to be an American chauvinist pig and get away with it! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

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From the Population growth entry:

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">TC, are you sure about this? I only get a population increment every tenth turn (at the beginning of each new year) in my games.

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That is Proportions DS. In normal games, it grows at the listed growth rate / 10 each turn.

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Thanks IF. Reading this thread I'm beginning to think I should play less proportions.

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*Bump*

Is it me or is interest in the EM waning? entires have been getting less and less frequent, but there's still so much to be added.

This encyclopedia could serve as a really cool faq and introduction for newbies - not just to the game but to the community and culture that surrounds it. It could also serve the rest of us as a handy place to store and retrieve knowledge without having to trawl through the forums.

So c'mon, people, ANYONE can add to or edit it easily and instantly, and there's a wealth of information still unwritten. Even if you only correct someone else's mistakes or expand a little on something already written or just add in your own name and webpage, you will have made a contribution.

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I think it just needs a link to the page to be kept on top http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

http://www.invirtuo.cc/phpwiki/

Extra! Extra! Get your Encyclopedia Malfadorica here!

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I'm going to keep dropping in things... at least once I know something for sure, that is.

CombatSquirrel

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I think I'll just edit things for now... no entry is safe from me...

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Man, this thing is addicting! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif I need to stop adding stuff for now before it chews up my whole day....

Quikngruvn

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hey, I said that first! No fair! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

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basically im way to over stressed to do much anymore, plz add to my beatign the racials thread

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Someone should dig out information fomr the HTML manual, these forums, the many advise text that have ben written and star copying it all into the encyclopedia.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Then it's unanimous (and still true)! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Quikngruvn

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Say, how do you go about starting one of these things anyway? I'd think that other 4X games and such could use something like this... Encyclopedia Hydrargyrorum* anyone? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

*for those of you who don't know, Hydrargyrum is the Latin name of the element mercury, or quicksilver, which is the developer of MOO3... no I didn't know, I looked up the Latin name of the element on Google!

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I knew. But then I have a degree in Chemistry, which would be an unfair advantage here. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif It's where the Hg symbol comes from. Hydrargyrum. It literally means water-silver. (Hydros, water; argentum/argyrum, silver.)

However, given that Quicksilver is singular, it should just be Hydrargyra, not Hydrargyrorum. '-orum' is the plural genitive.

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How do you add stuff?

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">How about reading the instructions on the encyclopedia site, or read over the early Posts in this thread. If you still have questions then ask them.

Geo

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">OoOooOoOOOooOoh!
*Dogscoff raises an imaginary handbag.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Go to any page and click "edit" or click on a question-marked link. If it asks you for a username just type in your name, making sure you have at least 2 capital letters in it. No password necessary. Use square brackets to create links.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I did read the instructions, I kept getting a 404 error.

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Come see the amazing Encyclopedia Malfadorica - now with haiku!

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Ok, then perhaps a more complete description of exactly what problem you are having would be helpful. Your original question was too vague and didn't mention a 404 error at all. Complete the following sentance:

"Hi sorry to bother you, but I have a question i don't see answered anywhere. I have read the instructions in the wiki and the Posts in this thread, but I am having trouble editing a post. Every time I _____________ I get a 404 error. Anybody have any suggestions?"

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I have been playing this game for a bit over a year and this is the first I have heard of the EM. Checked it out....verrrry interrrresting....

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">EM has only existed for less than a month. You couldn't have heard of it before then, unless you have the Temporal Knowledge trait. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

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[quote]Originally posted by capnq:

Quote:

EM has only existed for less than a month. You couldn't have heard of it before then, unless you have the Temporal Knowledge trait. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Drat! You have found me out. Yes, this temporal attribute keeps me quite confused, as evidenced by my Last post...I think...

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I didn't design my next race with it for that very reason. Just too damn troublesome. Its much easier to be religious and blindly follow a set of concentric circles on starships.

Also, heres the thread of newbie ish ness

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">

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*After a few days' absence, Dogscoff checks out the recent changes page of the EM...

*Blink Blink... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

Arkcon's been busy... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif

Well done Arkcon! Quality articles, and lots of 'em too http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Sorry guys, I went a little spaz over the holiday. See I was away from my computer. But when I got home, my cousin had brought his laptop ... into the kitchen ... with wireless modem ... while I could cook!

Marge, they let me sign checks with a stamp! ... a stamp, Marge ...

Sorry, I channeled Homer Simpson for a minute there.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">No apologies necessary, I was just (pleasantly) surprised to see such frenzied activity on there after the slump the EM suffered a while back. Keep at it! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">No apologies necessary, I was just (pleasantly) surprised to see such frenzied activity on there after the slump the EM suffered a while back. Keep at it! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">No more pie ... no more ...

Thus spoke the Eric Cartman inside me. I have got to cool it, I have work to do.

You all know what's going to happen on December 26th-30th 'tho ....

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There's a fair amount of duplication, judging by the alphbetical index page. Seperate entries for boarding parties and boarding party, for example.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I'll fix that.

Edit: All duplicates that already had the same information down was deleted. I fixed the links linking to those pages to lead to the correct ones. What I will not fix is the duplicate entry for Suicide Junkie http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif and the Warp point and warp-point since they are two entirely different things.

Another Edit: I'd like geo or Lazarus to do something about the alphabetical index, since it seems obsolite now. I don't want to carelessly delete it, fearing retribution from Lazarus http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

More Edit: Good job, Arkcon, and thanks for editing the spelling errors http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[ December 02, 2002, 23:33: Message edited by: TerranC ]

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I'll fix that.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Too true, I fixed some, but I wasn't sure about others. Good job TerranC and thanks.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yeah, I feel the same way about fixing some errors. Duplications and such. At the beginning I didn't really know what I was doing. I'm thankful that someone is willing to fix some of my mistakes.

I used a spell checker when I edited, so that why some errors were fixed. A guy at work saw some other ones MS Word couldn't notice.

The process of change continues

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The actual alpabetical index I have been updating is on the Encyclopedia Malfadorica page. If you look at the Main Introduction page, in the body of the greeting is a link to an "alphabetical index". That link actually takes you to the "Encyclopedia Malfadorica" page. I updated that yesterday. It's should be up to date now.

There is also a page called "AlphabeticalIndex" which is something I played around with early on to find a way to automatically script a dynamic index, but it never worked right. I stopped updating that page. I asked Laz to delete it but he must have forgot. I just now edited it and made it link back to the "Encyclopedia Malfadorica" page to avoid confusion.

Geoschmo

[ December 03, 2002, 13:45: Message edited by: geoschmo ]

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Continued from Official Image Collection thread.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Why not? Other projects have entries, my project just hasn't been released yet. I realised when doing the neo-standard pages that the expansion pack would need it's own entry, so I put that page together in order to have something to link to. Once I release the pack (this week hopefully) I will alter the entry so that it's about something available now and not something available in the future.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hehhehhehheeeeee! I think we may have found the replacement for the Cantina thread when the health inspectors shut it down! Imagine a full scale drunken party that just Boards ships, takes them over, eats/ drinks them out of supplies then moves on to the next one - kind of like that rogue party in HHGTTG.

As long as it doesn't start boarding other threads...

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Bah... I still think that the WIKI should be used as a true encyclopedia...

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well, I am not suggesting using the wiki to advertise their cookie delivery service. It should be SE related afterall. But if we are taling about all things SE, then it's appropriate to have a page describing an SE mod. Isn't that what we are talking about, or did I miss something?

Geoschmo

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Hey, if someone is going to go to the trouble of creating and editing pages for the wiki, and they have a mod or website or whatever they want to plug on a page, by all means have at it. It's only fair afterall.

Just keep it clean of course, and don't go editing all the pages putting banner ads on them or anything. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif Just keep your plug relevant to the page it's on and we'll have no trouble with it.

Geoschmo

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Quote:

Originally posted by Baron Munchausen: [qb]There's a fair amount of duplication, judging by the alphbetical index page. Seperate entries for boarding parties and boarding party, for example.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">but isn't there a real difference between them? I mean I wouldn't mind going to a boarding party!

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I dunno, lot's of people are haveing fun with it. I know I am.

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The way I see it it *is* a true encyclopedia. A little informal, but no less an encyclopedia for that. OK, it's not a "normal" encyclopedia, but that doesn't mean a thing. Normal encyclopedias are aimed at different markets and have hundreds of years of boring, stuffy tradition behind them. This is an encyclopedia for us, by us. Why should we have to observe someone else's rules when writing it? As long as it's informative and accessible to us and to newbies, that's all that matters.

For example, the Imperial Ego article might look like a bit of a laugh, but the only reason it's funny is that it's true. Building triple-mollies and parking battlemoons on black holes for chuckles is the kind of thing we do- it's the kind of thing this game does to people. Us older players appreciate seeing it on screen, and any newbies stumbling upon it will get a flavour of the culture which surrounds the game.

I guess it comes down to whether you want the wiki to be an Online manual and faq recording the dry facts and mechanics of SE4 or whether you want to expand it into something which documents the subculture (which is what we really mean when we talk about the SEIV Community) that has grown up around it.

And if you're not sure where you stand after reading the aobve paragraph, ask yourself this: Do I continue to play SE4 for the game itself or for the Community?

Anyway, the wonderful thing about the wiki system is that chaos reigns, and from the chaos shall come order. There's plenty of time for the EM to evolve, and in the end it will naturally take on the form that the majority of people want to see- whatever that turns out to be.

BTW, this isn't intended as a rant, a flame or a lecture, it's just me emptying my brain onto my keyboard. Please don't take offence or assume I'm telling people how to think or what to do.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yeah, if there's a problem with it -- just edit it out. And the author will edit back. Endlessly. Or until one or the other gets a life. Word of warning 'tho -- you'll be waiting a long time for me to get a life. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

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Just went and looked at the page today and... wow. Y'all are doing a most excellent job. Now I just need to get the poor thing moved over to the PBW server.

I wonder if MM or SG has taken a look at this. I'd love to hear Aaron's opinion http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Eric/LL

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IMO, the Wiki should definitely be a full encyclopedia of SE4, but it also has the potential to be much more.

It also should always have a link to it kept at the top of this thread, as such: http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
http://invirtuo.cc/phpwiki/index.php/