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Stone Mill December 18th, 2002 05:34 PM

Re: Are there any female SE4 players?
 
Originally Posted by Mottlee:
Quote:

I do beleave we have scared them off!
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">That is sooo funny reading that while looking at your avatar!

ROFL!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[ December 18, 2002, 15:34: Message edited by: Stone Mill ]

Arkcon December 18th, 2002 06:06 PM

Re: Are there any female SE4 players?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Ruatha:
41 answers and no trace of any female.

If you just entered this thread go to the first post and enter the poll.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well, there's 2% voting as neither. So a message for any alien beings that are true hermaphrodites, any pure energy beings, or pure AI entities on this board:

If you can reproduce by yourself, Isaac Asimov said in "Foundation And The Earth" that you are defined as female.

So answer up, we can't hurt you through cyberspace.

[ December 18, 2002, 18:56: Message edited by: Arkcon ]

mottlee December 18th, 2002 06:38 PM

Re: Are there any female SE4 players?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Stone Mill:
Originally Posted by Mottlee:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> I do beleave we have scared them off!

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">That is sooo funny reading that while looking at your avatar!

ROFL!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">OK OK OK so I scared them off http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

Stone Mill December 18th, 2002 09:30 PM

Re: Are there any female SE4 players?
 
Quote:

OK OK OK so I scared them off
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">There you have it. It's not SciFi, it's not the SEIV game... It's Mottlee's avatar!!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

Maybe you can soften it up a bit... you know, put some flowers in the 'ol ribcage, or spruce it up with some pastel colors... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Cheeze December 19th, 2002 04:08 AM

Re: Are there any female SE4 players?
 
Stone Mill,

How do you manage to play spades without cursing and trashtalking your in-laws?

Especially the cursing part!

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

oleg December 19th, 2002 03:40 PM

Re: Are there any female SE4 players?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SamuraiProgrammer:
Do you think your bidding system confuses your opponents or do you think it is superior? I once knew someone that was planning on learning ACOL and I once faced a couple of guys at a regional that were playing something based on it (I think).

4 Card Majors ---UGH!

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I think it is because Acol and other 4-card Majors suffer in competition. In unopposed auction there is no much difference.
Suppose your partner opens 1S (may be 4 cards), RHO overcall with 2C or 2D. If you have 3-card support should you raise or not ? If you decide to play responsive doubles to ammend this problem (double shows 3 spades while 2 spades shows 4 cards), how to show 4 card heart suit ?? On the other hand weak no trump, escpecialy when non-vulnerable against vulnerable can be a killer. Yesterday we were cold for vulnerable 3NT. I had flat 14 points in forth seat, LHO opened 1NT, CHO passesd, RHO bid 2h (transfer), I passed, LHO bid 2S, pass, pass to me. I passed. We set them 2 for +100. Par result +600. CHO had 11 count with 5D. We play ASTRO and the only way for her to show her hand is to overcall 1NT with vulnerable 3D which is obviously insane. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

[ December 19, 2002, 13:43: Message edited by: oleg ]

Stone Mill December 19th, 2002 04:08 PM

Re: Are there any female SE4 players?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Cheeze:
How do you manage to play spades without cursing and trashtalking your in-laws?

Especially the cursing part!
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">That's not the worst of it... We haven't picked up on their signals yet... Those CHEATS!!! I'll get 'em!!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon8.gif

SamuraiProgrammer December 20th, 2002 05:14 AM

Re: Are there any female SE4 players?
 
+100 when game is cold... I HATE it when that happens. (Unless I am going down in which case http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

I have often wondered about learning 4 card majors... then I come to my senses.

I actually threatened to learn Culbertson.. I have 3 of his books (red, blue, & gold), but bidding has come so far, it is useless to bother.

Do you have any budding converts to 5-Card majors?

Ruatha December 20th, 2002 09:44 AM

Re: Are there any female SE4 players?
 
45 votes, no woman.

Ruatha December 20th, 2002 05:16 PM

Re: Are there any female SE4 players?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by mottlee:
45 to 0 WE WIN!!!!!!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif

What we win?

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">A sad, sad life....

oleg December 20th, 2002 10:51 PM

Re: Are there any female SE4 players?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SamuraiProgrammer:
[QBDo you have any budding converts to 5-Card majors?[/QB]
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Not many, just 1 pair. Traditions die slowly. One reason is that you MUST alert 1c and 1 d openings if they promised just 3 cards (EBU regulations). Most people reasonably think less alerts is better. Another factor is popularity of rubber bridge. Yes, I'm not kidding. There are as many rubber tables per week as duplicate in Manchester bridge club. And in rubber all play exactly same system - Acol.

SamuraiProgrammer December 20th, 2002 10:56 PM

Re: Are there any female SE4 players?
 
I wish we had more rubber bridge games around here. It is the most effective way to charge (or be charged) for lessons http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Gozra December 20th, 2002 11:08 PM

Re: Are there any female SE4 players?
 
I just remembered Javah's Wife plays PBW

oleg December 20th, 2002 11:16 PM

Re: Are there any female SE4 players?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SamuraiProgrammer:
I wish we had more rubber bridge games around here. It is the most effective way to charge (or be charged) for lessons http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">No. every time I play rubber I have Yarborough in my hand. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif Too much depends on luck. Unless of course if you play in TGR with Zia...
But it never will happen to me.

mottlee December 21st, 2002 02:22 AM

Re: Are there any female SE4 players?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Ruatha:
45 votes, no woman.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">45 to 0 WE WIN!!!!!!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif

What we win?

couslee February 2nd, 2003 03:06 AM

Re: Are there any female SE4 players?
 
I can just imagine the 8 women gamers that voted their were male saying.... "LOL, look at these vain arseholes"... you win, ok billy, now carry out the trash.

Kamog February 3rd, 2003 09:22 AM

Re: Are there any female SE4 players?
 
50 vs. 1

We're still winning... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

Ruatha February 3rd, 2003 11:29 AM

Re: Are there any female SE4 players?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Kamog:
50 vs. 1

We're still winning... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Actually it's 52-0 (the 1 is "Assume I'm male")

Ragnarok February 3rd, 2003 06:10 PM

Re: Are there any female SE4 players?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Ruatha:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Kamog:
50 vs. 1

We're still winning... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Actually it's 52-0 (the 1 is "Assume I'm male")</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">No, we have a women around here now. Check the Cantina. She's posted in there. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Ruatha February 3rd, 2003 08:36 PM

Re: Are there any female SE4 players?
 
Yes. Now it's 54-1, some way left to go...

F Te antKe February 4th, 2003 04:48 AM

Re: Are there any female SE4 players?
 
There is no option for Genderless or Hermaphrodites. Since our existance is neither > both > and Other I will have to abstain from "voting". What do you call a being that contributes to something akin to fusion in order to perpetuate its "race" for lack of a better word.

geoschmo February 4th, 2003 04:59 AM

Re: Are there any female SE4 players?
 
54-0-1 then. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

Ruatha February 4th, 2003 07:05 AM

Re: Are there any female SE4 players?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by geoschmo:
54-0-1 then. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">But who posted the new 1 then?
And I do relate do the genderless stuff. Being viewed as an object can be somewhat booring I guess.

MacLeod February 4th, 2003 07:41 AM

Re: Are there any female SE4 players?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Ruatha:

My wife thinks this forum has a somewhat prepubertal male touch!

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Wow does your wife read the same Internet as I do?

This is probably the most mature forum I've ever seen in my life! It's almost completely devoid of flames and personal attacks.

I guess the 4x genre isn't very attractive to women. Why? Who cares, women are beyond the comprehension of mortal minds. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif You'll find more of them in RTS or RPGs, my theory is that those genres are easier to socialize in as they unanimously feature real time communication as compared to SEIV's slow pace of communication (with it's very slow in game communication system).

Krsqk February 4th, 2003 05:50 PM

Re: Are there any female SE4 players?
 
Women tend to be more about equal relationships than subjugative ones. "How about we work together for our mutual good?" as opposed to "Work harder, you slaves!" http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif However, women who get ticked off in a game would probably be a bit like the AI--they declare war and will never have peace with you again. Probably including your next 10 games with them. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif At least, that's how my wife would be. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif And yes, she reads parts of this forum, too.

Andrés February 5th, 2003 04:58 AM

Re: Are there any female SE4 players?
 
Just added my vote to increase the difference.
57 - 0 - 1 - 1

Mephisto March 11th, 2003 12:52 AM

Re: Are there any female SE4 players?
 
Still waiting for a female SE IV player?
I am one - though I fear we won't get any closer together... being it as it is I live in Germany...
Ask Mephisto for details...

Anja http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Master Belisarius March 11th, 2003 12:54 AM

Re: Are there any female SE4 players?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Mephisto:
Still waiting for a female SE IV player?
I am one - though I fear we won't get any closer together... being it as it is I live in Germany...
Ask Mephisto for details...

Anja http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif Hey Philipp, have you a double personality???

Master Belisarius March 11th, 2003 12:57 AM

Re: Are there any female SE4 players?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by F Te antKe:
There is no option for Genderless or Hermaphrodites. Since our existance is neither > both > and Other I will have to abstain from "voting". What do you call a being that contributes to something akin to fusion in order to perpetuate its "race" for lack of a better word.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Genderless???
I don't think Michael Jackson would like to play SE4... but who knows? Maybe he like to play with their kids before go to sleep.

DavidG March 11th, 2003 01:13 AM

Re: Are there any female SE4 players?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Krsqk:
Women tend to be more about equal relationships than subjugative ones. "How about we work together for our mutual good?" as opposed to "Work harder, you slaves!" http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif However, women who get ticked off in a game would probably be a bit like the AI--they declare war and will never have peace with you again. Probably including your next 10 games with them. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif At least, that's how my wife would be. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif And yes, she reads parts of this forum, too.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Wow that explains a lot!! The friends I play must be women! You hear that Longstreet? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

[ March 11, 2003, 00:43: Message edited by: DavidG ]

Mephisto March 11th, 2003 01:59 AM

Re: Are there any female SE4 players?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Master Belisarius:
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif Hey Philipp, have you a double personality???
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Nope. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif I visited Anja just an hour ago and we sat in front of her Laptop. I mentioned that there was once this thread on the board and that it would be fun if she would post here. She readily agreed but we didn't want to go through all the hassle of creating a new login for her so she used my account. Search for "Kayleigh" on PBW.

Puke March 11th, 2003 02:39 AM

Re: Are there any female SE4 players?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by MacLeod:
I guess the 4x genre isn't very attractive to women. Why? Who cares, women are beyond the comprehension of mortal minds. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif You'll find more of them in RTS or RPGs, my theory is that those genres are easier to socialize in as they unanimously feature real time communication as compared to SEIV's slow pace of communication (with it's very slow in game communication system).
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">its hard to generalize.. a friend of mine is big into RTS's and RPG's, but she hates people who stand around and socialize instead of playing.. go figure. I couldn't get her interested in se4, though.

Quote:

Originally posted by Andr&eacutes Lescano:
Just added my vote to increase the difference.
57 - 0 - 1 - 1

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">good god, how many categories are there now? Male, Female, Other, Left of Center, Not telling, Dressing to the Right Today, I like Furries, Too Confused to Tell, and Give Me Another Drink Please. I remember the good old days when "what gender are you" was a easy choice, instead of an essay question that is judged on the OSRT scale. sh*t. I live in the Tenderloin, or the transvestite district of San Francisco, and things are not this complicated. (and no, im not a tranny. thanks for asking.)

Master Belisarius March 11th, 2003 03:29 AM

Re: Are there any female SE4 players?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Mephisto:
Nope. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif I visited Anja just an hour ago and we sat in front of her Laptop. I mentioned that there was once this thread on the board and that it would be fun if she would post here. She readily agreed but we didn't want to go through all the hassle of creating a new login for her so she used my account. Search for "Kayleigh" on PBW.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif I saw their name... and of course it was a joke (a bad one!).

Kamog March 11th, 2003 07:12 AM

Re: Are there any female SE4 players?
 
Quote:

I'm male, no hesitance here, 100 % testosterone. 97% (60)
I'm female but never plays PBW. 0% (0)
I'm female and plays/has played PBW. 2% (1)
I'm neither or I don't want to tell my gender (Assume I'm male). 2% (1)
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I have a suspicion that there are way more men in the world than there are women. People say that there are roughly equal numbers, but it certainly does not seem that way. When I was in school, there were only about 3 girls out of about 200 students in my department. At work, most of the people in the company are guys. And in the SEIV community, it's mostly guys. I go to the gym and it's mostly guys there. Everywhere I go, it's mostly guys! In my estimation, the ratio of males to females in the world is not 1 to 1 but somewhere in between 10 to 1 and 100 to 1.

baetis March 11th, 2003 09:03 AM

Re: Are there any female SE4 players?
 
God, i hope i never end up living where you are http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif At my college there were way more girls than guys. However, in my department (computer science) there were very few girls. And only one hotty. And i'm living with her now http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

DavidG March 11th, 2003 01:30 PM

Re: Are there any female SE4 players?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Kamog:
I have a suspicion that there are way more men in the world than there are women. People say that there are roughly equal numbers, but it certainly does not seem that way. When I was in school, there were only about 3 girls out of about 200 students in my department. At work, most of the people in the company are guys. And in the SEIV community, it's mostly guys. I go to the gym and it's mostly guys there. Everywhere I go, it's mostly guys! In my estimation, the ratio of males to females in the world is not 1 to 1 but somewhere in between 10 to 1 and 100 to 1.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I think you may be right!!! Ever seen how many women work in Land Surveying? Must be some kind of government coverup.

[ March 11, 2003, 11:30: Message edited by: DavidG ]

Wardad March 11th, 2003 07:49 PM

Re: Are there any female SE4 players?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by MacLeod:

I guess the 4x genre isn't very attractive to women. Why? Who cares, women are beyond the comprehension of mortal minds.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">My wife is from Roswell, and I understand her.

Aloofi March 11th, 2003 11:56 PM

Re: Are there any female SE4 players?
 
Nah, girls don't care about strategy games in general. They kind of have their feet on the ground, if you know what I mean. I've tried a zillion times to get my wife to play, and the only ones I got her interested was in Caesar 3 and Simcity 3000. Who knows, maybe girls are not capable of abstract thinking... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif .

Cheeze March 12th, 2003 07:49 AM

Re: Are there any female SE4 players?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Wardad:
My wife is from Roswell, and I understand her.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Maybe your wife is Octurian. [obscure movie reference]

dogscoff March 12th, 2003 09:58 AM

Re: Are there any female SE4 players?
 
Quote:

They kind of have their feet on the ground, if you know what I mean. I've tried a zillion times to get my wife to play, and the only ones I got her interested was in Caesar 3 and Simcity 3000. Who knows, maybe girls are not capable of abstract thinking... .
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">My girlfriend often gets really hooked on soap operas. For a while now I've been toying with the idea of getting "The Sims" to try to draw her into gaming...

DirectorTsaarx March 12th, 2003 04:17 PM

Re: Are there any female SE4 players?
 
I prefer to avoid generalizations about why women appear to avoid this game; however, in my particular situation, my girlfriend has a VERY low tolerance for micromanagement. Not to mention that she prefers a somewhat faster-paced game (not first-person-shooter twitch-game fast, but faster than SEIV).

Wardad March 12th, 2003 06:46 PM

Re: Are there any female SE4 players?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by DirectorTsaarx:
I prefer to avoid generalizations about why women appear to avoid this game; however, in my particular situation, my girlfriend has a VERY low tolerance for micromanagement. Not to mention that she prefers a somewhat faster-paced game (not first-person-shooter twitch-game fast, but faster than SEIV).
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">A low tolorance for MM!!!! Damn, I married the wrong woman.


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