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tbontob February 15th, 2003 08:58 AM

Re: OT - Unexplainable mysteries of the Universe ... Explained!
 
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Originally posted by Krsqk:
AAA, at least, just calls someone to come fix your problem/tow your vehicle. If they're not there in ~30 minutes, you can call someone else, and AAA will foot that bill instead. At least, that's how the premium plan works.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Does that work just if you are locked out or for all towing problems?

For example, by a coincidence, I had a flat tire this morning. I called CAA and they towed my car to the garage to have the tire repaired.

It is just the standard plan and we are entitled to 3 "visits" per year by a CAA towtruck with no charge. They have their own fleet of trucks.

It is a bit different in towns where I believe they have an arrangement with one or more owners of towtrucks to do the towing.

Since I have never used up my 3 visits in all the years I have had CAA membership, it was just more convenient for me to have it towed, rather than change the tire and then go to the garage.

Krsqk February 16th, 2003 01:19 AM

Re: OT - Unexplainable mysteries of the Universe ... Explained!
 
Well, we get 8 calls per year. I guess they might have their own trucks, but every time we've used it, it's been someone local who's come. I assume they have arrangements made with several garages/towing companies/etc in town.

oleg February 16th, 2003 05:16 AM

Re: OT - Unexplainable mysteries of the Universe ... Explained!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Krsqk:
AAA, at least, just calls someone to come fix your problem/tow your vehicle. If they're not there in ~30 minutes, you can call someone else, and AAA will foot that bill instead. At least, that's how the premium plan works.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well, may be. But few years back when I was in Austin and call AAA for flat tire they send tow truck to San Antonio. Yes, I do have some accent but I never though it is THAT thick ! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif

Wardad February 21st, 2003 09:59 PM

Re: OT - Unexplainable mysteries of the Universe ... Explained!
 
Just setting the stage for a little Kamogery...
(Yes Kamog, you have been verbed.)
***

Pick-up lines heard round the world and what you could say back to them.

I know how to please a woman.
Then please leave me alone.

I want to give myself to you.
Sorry, I don't accept cheap gifts.

May I see you pretty soon?
Don't you think I'm pretty now?

Your hair color is fabulous.
Thank you. It's on aisle three at the corner drug store.

You look like a dream.
Go back to sleep.

I can tell that you want me.
Yes, I want you to leave.

Hey, baby, what's your sign?
Do not enter.
or
Stop.

I'd go through anything for you.
Let's start with your bank account.

May I have the Last dance?
You've just had it.

I would go to the end of the world for you.
Yes, but would you stay there?

Your place or mine?
Both. You go to your place, and I'll go to mine.

Your body is like a temple.
Sorry, there are no services today.

Is this seat empty?
Yes, and this one will be too if you sit down.

What's it like being the most beautiful girl in the bar?
What's it like being the biggest liar in the world?

Haven't I seen you someplace before?
Yeah, that's why I don't go there anymore.

If I could see you naked, I'd die happy.
If I could see you naked, I'd die laughing.

[ February 24, 2003, 17:52: Message edited by: Wardad ]

DavidG August 14th, 2003 04:40 AM

Re: OT - Unexplainable mysteries of the Universe ... Explained!
 
Just watched a recent Voyager episode which reminded me of this thread with the question, re new Star Trek:

How many holo deck failures that almost destroy the ship does it take before someone decides to turn the FU#&*%# thing off!!??

[ August 14, 2003, 05:06: Message edited by: DavidG ]

narf poit chez BOOM August 14th, 2003 05:21 AM

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"Phasers...check."

"Photon torpedoes...check."

"Quantum torpedoes...check."

"Genesis device...check."

"Holodeck.."
"Hold it! You sure we need a weapon of mass destruction?"

TerranC August 14th, 2003 05:59 AM

Re: OT - Unexplainable mysteries of the Universe ... Explained!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by DavidG:
How many holo deck failures that almost destroy the ship does it take before someone decidedes to turn the FU#&*%# thing off!!??
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">They try. But then the holodeck blocks the command or reroutes power from somewhere else.

Kamog August 14th, 2003 06:36 AM

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If they didn't have a holodeck or transporter, they'll have to invent some other unreliable piece of equipment that frequently has weird malfunctions; a lot of the episodes have stories that rely heavily on holodeck and transporter problems! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

TerranC August 14th, 2003 07:18 AM

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Originally posted by Kamog:
If they didn't have a holodeck or transporter, they'll have to invent some other unreliable piece of equipment that frequently has weird malfunctions; a lot of the episodes have stories that rely heavily on holodeck and transporter problems! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">And anatomically-compatible aliens. Don't forget about the anatomically-compatible aliens. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

narf poit chez BOOM August 14th, 2003 08:34 AM

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i'm trying.

General Woundwort August 14th, 2003 11:03 AM

Re: OT - Unexplainable mysteries of the Universe ... Explained!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by narf poit chez BOOM:
"Phasers...check."

"Photon torpedoes...check."

"Quantum torpedoes...check."

"Genesis device...check."

"Holodeck.."
"Hold it! You sure we need a weapon of mass destruction?"

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hey Narf, can I use this for my sig? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

narf poit chez BOOM August 14th, 2003 11:17 AM

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go ahead.

General Woundwort August 14th, 2003 12:28 PM

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Thanks. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Suicide Junkie August 15th, 2003 01:51 AM

Re: OT - Unexplainable mysteries of the Universe ... Explained!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by DavidG:
Just watched a recent Voyager episode which reminded me of this thread with the question, re new Star Trek:

How many holo deck failures that almost destroy the ship does it take before someone decides to turn the FU#&*%# thing off!!??

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The holograms are more intelligent than you give them credit for!
Those sneaky holographic people use chemicals and subtle environmental effects to make sure everybody loves the Holodeck and would never think of taking it apart. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif
Heck, Voyager had the Holographic doctor. Just imagine what he could be doing!

Kamog August 15th, 2003 08:21 AM

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Yeah, the holographic doctor is a medical genius. He is just as brilliant as Dr. McCoy or Dr. Crusher or Dr. Bashir. If holograms are so smart, why do starships need any real crew at all?

By the way, I never understood how these "solid" holograms are supposed to work, because they are supposed to be made of light. You can pick up holographic objects in the holodeck and they feel solid, and the Doctor can operate real medical equipment, and so on. The only time the Doctor isn't solid is when some aggressive alien attacks him. Then the weapon or fist or whatever passes right through him.

Jack Simth August 15th, 2003 08:30 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Kamog:
Yeah, the holographic doctor is a medical genius. He is just as brilliant as Dr. McCoy or Dr. Crusher or Dr. Bashir. If holograms are so smart, why do starships need any real crew at all?
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Two reasons:
1) Power outages put holograms down, and they are limited to prepared areas (the Doctor on Voyager was limited to the holodeck until they picked up the mobile emitter from a visitor from the future - a unique piece of equipment.)
2) Humans are more creative: they turned the doc into a command hologram once or twice - Harry came up with the ideas to save the ship, not the doc.
Quote:

Originally posted by Kamog:


By the way, I never understood how these "solid" holograms are supposed to work, because they are supposed to be made of light. You can pick up holographic objects in the holodeck and they feel solid, and the Doctor can operate real medical equipment, and so on. The only time the Doctor isn't solid is when some aggressive alien attacks him. Then the weapon or fist or whatever passes right through him.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">They are made out of photons and force fields; the photons provide the color, the force fields provide the shape, solidity, and physics (all managed by a computer, usually offscreen). Weapons/fists/whatever pass through because he isn't a comparatively high powered force field; he is designed to move tricorders and the occasional unconscious person, not stop swords.

Jack Simth August 15th, 2003 08:58 AM

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Originally posted by David Gervais:
Why doesn't glue stick to the inside of the bottle?
Good Question!

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">It does; however, it only permanently bonds when exposed to air, which it uses up in the process of bonding. Inside the bottle, it is sealed away, and only a small amount bonds while in storage.

Fyron August 15th, 2003 10:22 AM

Re: OT - Unexplainable mysteries of the Universe ... Explained!
 
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Weapons/fists/whatever pass through because he isn't a comparatively high powered force field; he is designed to move tricorders and the occasional unconscious person, not stop swords.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Actually, I believe it was explained that he is programmed to become temporarily incorporeal whenever someone or something attacks him in one of the episodes. I forget if he had to control it or not though.

Jack Simth August 15th, 2003 11:19 AM

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Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
Actually, I believe it was explained that he is programmed to become temporarily incorporeal whenever someone or something attacks him in one of the episodes. I forget if he had to control it or not though.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Actually, it went both ways, depending on the episode. The episode I suspect you are thinking of is the one where he went on the holodeck because some beings from another dimension had used it to kidnap some crew members, and only the doctor was safe from them. The incorporeal-ness you describe was a conscious only thing specific for that episode in order to deal safely with the holodeck characters in the program that was running, and applied to his entire form only. However, that was only in the one episode. In the rest, if it gets mentioned, it happens because he isn't programmed to react to the stimulus with an appropriet injury, and/or his projectors aren't up to stopping it (he held onto an object once or twice when such events were occuring - clearly his entire form wasn't becoming non-corporeal). Sometimes such antics cause problems with his holo-matrix, but not very often. The ST universe does have its contradictions.

narf poit chez BOOM August 15th, 2003 11:32 AM

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it's the multiple writers. i see contradictions with multiple writers writing books; the more writers, generally, the more contradictions. well, generally not bad enough to be called contadictions with two or three writers, but different ideas. add up all the ST writers...50? 100? 200?


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