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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">http://www.changingtheclimate.com

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Wow that's a lame web site.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Large quantities of data on vegetarianism, yes. Accurate data on it, not likely.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">There is no oil business conspiracy here. Those guys were crooks and all that stuff was a hoax. No wonder nobody was able to reproduce their "results".

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[ January 30, 2003, 19:11: Message edited by: Wardad ]

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">There is no oil business conspiracy here. Those guys were crooks and all that stuff was a hoax. No wonder nobody was able to reproduce their "results".</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I was attending night school at the time Cold Fusion episode started. The professors were excited and were busy faxing documents back and forth. A two part consensus was formed.

1. False. A hoax or badly controlled experiment.

1. RESULTS: Discrediting the scientist, the school, and the theory. One or both these guys could skip out with the money.

2. Real. The implications are that an uncontrolled fusion reaction might be set off by a large electrical current when the rods approach saturation. Terroist may be able to build an undectable suitcase size fusion bomb with a yield of several kilotons.

2. RESULTS: Discrediting the scientist, the school, and the theory. One or both these guys may object (or agrre to work secretly) and have to disappear along with a convincing amount of money.

When my Dad asked me about investing in the cold fusion metals, I told him no.

P.S. It's been nice posting here. Forget you ever saw this...

[ January 30, 2003, 19:11: Message edited by: Wardad ]

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You know, all this talk about alternative feull sources got me thinking back to my high school days. Yes, one of my projects, the "Hamster Injection Engine"

They laughed at me then, but when the atmosphere burns away, and there is no feull to turn the world, who will be laughing then??? Me!! And the Hamsters!

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Graeme Dice
I expect we could both produce large quatities of accurate data supporting either position on vegetarianism. Most of mine would come from a book that promotes, “The Sun Food Diet”. It works for Pooh Star who has maintained her lighter size for about a year now. I concede this is only one example and that I thoroughly enjoyed the hamburger I had on Sunday.

Yes I’ll concede there are good reasons for some people to use an SUV. I have a tough time believing it is more than 10 percent of the current owners.

War Dad, If / when I ever visit Mesa I’ll be sure you have been properly fed. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

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The hamsters won't be laughing. They will be too tired running their little legs off to power your SUV. (:

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If you make your smiley go the other (more normal) way, it turns into a nice little icon, like this http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif . http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[ January 31, 2003, 07:59: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

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It is interesting to note that, whatever the science behind the "abolish-the-SUV-and-the-rest-of-mankind" movement, the facts don't seem to bother its loudest supporters. Take the actress who's putting out the latest "SUVs are evil" commercials. She's having to do quite a bit of backtracking in order to reconcile her viewpoint with the fact that she drives...an SUV.

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Yes, it is true that fanatical people of all types ignore facts that don't fit with their message. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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Remember, about a year ago, there was all this excitement about a new scooter invention called "IT" or "Ginger" or something like that? It was supposed to revolutionize transportation, because many people would be able to switch to using these low-cost, low-pollution scooters instead of cars, and it will be efficient and environmentally friendly and so on. Have you heard anything about that recently?

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yes, you can buy one now. It is called Segue:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...onics&n=507846

Slick.

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Ironically, some California towns are considering banning Segways as a safety hazard to other pedestrians.

http://www.theksbwchannel.com/news/1877940/detail.html

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I don't think the Segue is gonna replace the cars ubtil we build a weather machine. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Geo

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"It travels up to 17 mph on all surfaces, including up hills, and stops when its rider leans back. The Segway is not equipped with brakes."

Gah, stupid news article. If it doesn't have brakes its because it doesn't need them. I doubt it doesn't, though.

This is kind of like noting a car doesn't have wings.

Phoenix-D

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Especially if all car become hydrogen cell powered and emit a lot of H2O ! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

I too think Seque is very hazardus for both riders and unlucky pedestrians.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">There is a difference between stopping the motors when you lean back and brakes.

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the post is too damn long but seems interesting. someone fill me in?

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Yeah, I wouldn't want to be riding a Segue in the rain or snow. I suppose you could be holding an umbrella while riding it, but still it won't be very comfortable.

It will be fun to ride when the weather is nice. But 17 mph is not that fast. We'll still need a car to go longer distances.

I don't know... is a Segue better than a good bike?

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Sure. (Remember, you asked for it... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif )
1) Hydrocarbon fuels are dirty, nasty, polluting, and will eventually result in the spontaneous combustion of the planet.
2) Hydrogen fuel cells are much cleaner, but are less efficient, have no network of fueling stations, and may have the unintended side effect of drowning portions of Arizona in billions of gallons of water annually. This, however, will lessen smog by allowing it to seep into the ground water.
3) Solar cells prevent the nasty pollution caused by those evil coal power plants and the environmental rape perpetrated by those vile hydroelectric facilities and the imminent nuclear doom visited upon us by fission power fanatics, but it might require the pollution of 5 Earths to create enough solar cells to power this one Earth. Earths desiring to volunteer for pollution duty are being sought now. They also are dependent on the sun; over-reliance on them will cause major problems when the sun either explodes or runs out of fuel. As we will receive notice of this approximately eight minutes after it happens (provided we don't have early-warning outPosts on Mercury or Venus yet [due to Republican military aggression against Uranus, all space units will be tied up there; due to Democrat extension of Social Security benefits beginning at age 3, there will be insufficient funds to build more]), time for production changeover will be very short.
4) The Earth is DOOOOOOOOOOMED!
5) If you don't like any of the above, you may pick up your electric scooter at the door. Just remember to bring an umbrella. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[ February 04, 2003, 15:46: Message edited by: Krsqk ]

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Oh man Krsqk. You gotta limits Posts like that to when I am not at work. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">They won't produce a huge amount more water than gas engines already produce, so I don't see this being a really large problem.

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I think (hope) Krsqk's post was just meant to be absurd, and therefore funny (a joke). http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif At least, he didn't seem quite that insane the Last time I spoke (chatted) with him. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

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Yes, it was a joke. Maybe I should make it a point to max out my smileys every time I post. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif

Fyron, did it get an F, then? I would hope it at least rates a y.