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Someone asked 'why' Babylon 5: Crusade was cancelled. I didn't realize that such a scandal could go unnoticed by any fan with net access, but I guess not everyone seeks out the websites and newsGroups for their favorite SciFi. The short answer is 'network stupidity' as with most SciFi shows. But the details are as bizarre as anything else already brought up here. Here's why it was cancelled:

AICN story about the infamous TNT memo: http://www.aint-it-cool-news.com/display.cgi?id=2060

JMS first comment on the TNT memo: http://www.midwinter.com/lurk/guide/113.html#JS.memo1

JMS second comment on the TNT memo: http://www.midwinter.com/lurk/guide/113.html#JS.memo2

They backed down for a while, but several months later it was cancelled anyway. Not enough sex and violence. Just another ton of **** to throw on your already gargantuan compost pile of network contempt. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif

[ February 16, 2003, 01:07: Message edited by: Baron Munchausen ]

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From the Baron:
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">My compost pile is now a singularity. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

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slightly ot: i just watched sttng's "all good things...". i really hate series finalies, its depressing to know that was THE Last episode. thanks to them putting out everything on dvd i get to experience this again and again and again as i watch the finalies of other series. Dr. Who (with each new regeneration), DS9, Babylon 5, voyager, space 1999, red dwarf, the prisoner, stargate sg1, cowboy bebop, etc.....

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">if the show is about 1 main character i would agree with you.
but in the case of a series that has multiple characters then each one should have its own unique ability. thats what makes a good pc (for those of you who are to young to remember the old pen and paper rpg days that stands for player character not personal computer or politcally correct http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif ). there does need to be good interaction among the characters otherwise it really gets......not quite sure how to put it other than from a gaming point of view...extremely boring watching one character constantly saving the day, thus making the other characters unnecessary. example is despite shatners acting the chemistry between kirk, spock and mccoy was very good. also the characters need to grow or be replaced...in sttng councilor troy could have been replaced as she never went anywhere development wise.

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Originally posted by Omega_Prime:
Not so with SG1. It is people that bleed, love, and laugh. The closest they have to a cliche is Te'alk. (That one special person)

guess i just feel contrary right now but each character on sg1 has his or her little ability.
Jack- ok so nothing special about jack.
Samantha - has the remains of a Tokra in her head and can use G'ould technology
Daniel - can read many Languages long thought dead and decipher alien Languages rather quickly.
T'ealc - has a larval G'ould in him.
new guy that replaced daniel - another alien.

[ February 16, 2003, 03:20: Message edited by: desdinova ]

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Just for the heck of it - a few quick questions:

In B5: Did the series ever explain where the hidden base (on the planet near B5) came from?

Wasn't Vorlon or Minbari or Earth obviously.

In Stargate SG1: Why was the Daniel character written out? Real-life contract problems or what?

Looks like they are giving pretty much the same 'powers' to the new guy.

In Andromeda: can anybody explain how in one show the Andromeda ship can be damaged by a half-dozen ships and in another show can survive onslaughts of say 10,000 ships from another dimension?

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">No, they never explained where the Great Machine came from. How is it 'obvious' that it was not a Minbari or Human construction? It's compatible with human and minbari telepaths, after all. B4 was sent through time, remember. Who's to say that humans from the future didn't create the Great machine?

They also never explained what the 'exchange of souls' between the two races was about and lots of other things...

Stargate - don't follow it, can't say.

Andromeda was created by the same guy that created STAR TREK. Have you ever noticed anything resembling continuity in STAR TREK? 'nuff said.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I thought that one of the Zathras' sent itself back in time using the great machine so that it could build the great machine.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">You're assuming the other dimension is higher than ours is. Maybe they were only second dimensional beings. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">they never diretly explained it but they did give several hints. commander sinclair went back in time with B4 and was changed into a membari using the triluminary and became known as valen. they used the triluminary on sinclair at the battle of the line, and it glowed thus the membari thought that human had somehow gained membari souls. also dalenn used the triluminary to changed herself, it was also rumored that she is a decendant of valen/commander sinclair. the triluminary also glowed when it was put near her.

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I most likely will get trolled here... but i find most scifi shows suck....

The 44 minute show just does not work in the SCI FI world.

I dream of the day when their is a scifi show where they go... Hey we only have a core following... lets make a complicated story that the average joe will not understand throw in some really good plot twists... and not worry about the tokin 30 second ship shot ( the money shot for sci-fi shows think voyager ... ) and have a story that takes its time to unravel ( Now we do not have solve every thing... Some times a Laural Palmer is worth including in a show )... Oh well one day...

Their have been some really good ideas in tv the past two years ( 24 , Boom Town, The ITV mini about the world coming to an end .. cannot remember what it was called ) But you know it is sad when the current crop of SCI-FI shows make Dr. WHo look like Lord of the Rings on steriods....

And enough with morality.... Voyager was horrible for that .... if i wanted to see law and order i would watch it....

/*end rant...

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Hey, anyone remember Starfleet or Terrahawks?

Terrahawks was cool but I just loved Starfleet, if only for the riproaring Eddie Van Halen led themetoon and the fact that the battle scenes looked like a bad cross between 1920's Buck Rogers and Thunderbirds.. you could even see the strings holding up the models!!!

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Starship Troopers: I never read the book, so I can't really comment on how well it held up to that, but as a film in its own right I liked it for reasons already stated. Robocop was OK too, but I haven't watched that in a loooong time.

Wilma Deering: Off-think, off-think...

Terrahawks: Deserves eternal respect if only for the contribution of the venerable Windsor Davies (Sgt Major Zero). See http://tv.cream.org/ for a nostalgic overview of Terrahawks. Remember the noughts and crosses game at the end of each episode? I used to have the theme as an mp3 but I think I must have lost it...

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">This would be cool. I think the current LOTR series of films (although obviously not sci fi) is a step in this direction. When all 3 films are done and all the extra DVD footage and everything added it will be getting on for 10 hours. Although there have been certain necessary compromises toward the mainstream, I think this film represents a recognition that "core following" films are probably the way things are going to go. As mainstream culture fragments further and further into subcultures (something the internet has promoted, by allowing people to define their social circles according to interest rather than geographic constraints), different styles of film/ media will emerge, tailored to these audiences. Probably.

Basically, what I'm saying is people are starting to realise that some of us want to see entertainment that goes beyond the 45 minute tv/ 180 minute movie formats. I think Hollywood needs to look East for inspiration: In India they aren't scared of making films 5 or 6 hours long about all their religious stories and folklore=-)

The other thing is that as video cameras and editting/ rendering technology and stuff become more usable and affordable, and as bandwidth increases, you'll see more and more home-grown films being released on the web. These will probably break from conventional formats and techniques in all kind of interesting ways.

A small example: http://www.robotbastard.com - for a 40 meg download you get 15 minutes of mad retro-tech scifi mayhem from the guy who brought you "Scud: Disposible Assassin". Highly recommended.

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The one thing I think it is safe to say, without fear of criticism, is that "Starship Troopers - The Film" bore awfully little resemblance to "Starship Troopers - The Book".

The Bugs in the book used weapons, flew spaceships and as I recall, didnt rip people limb from limb or slaughter cows or anything...

Dizzy Flores was actually a bloke, and not the totty Caspar Van Dien gets off with. Dont know where Denise what's-her-face came into things in the book. If she did, she had a minor role

The starship troopers also wore augmented robotic suits.

The list goes on.

Dont get me wrong, I like the movie. I even bought it on DVD.

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Here's a good scifi one...

http://www.curemode.com/tye/tyebsg2.jpg

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Fav. Shows of all time.

Not in any order

DS9 : The one where the Rolumans are brought into the war.
STNG : Yesterday's Enterprise
BAB5: The one where the Earth Destroyer forces attacks BAB5
ST: The one where they meet the romulans for the first time
Voyager : 5 years of hell ( or how many years it was ) or the one where the doctor is in the future and must tell his side of the story

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I read Starship Troopers probably about 25-30 years ago, so even I don't remember the plotline of the book. Just the opening chapter is the only thing I still remember. I would have reread the book when the movie came out, but I think it's at my mom's house in Oklahoma. I didn't feel like rebuying the book when I already have a copy. But I loved the movie. Has anyone seen those animated shows based on it? I haven't, but I plan on getting them eventually.

I would like to see movies based on classics, but in that time period. Case of point: War Of The Worlds. This is the book that turned me into a hardcore sci-fi nut. I read it when I was about ten years old, and I became so enamored with it that I couldn't put it down. I would love to see a movie based on the book set in the 1890's. The movie made in the 50's was good, but sometimes the source book is much better than what Hollywood can come out with after all of the compromises that must be done to make a movie. At least Peter Jackson is trying to be faithful to the spirit of the Ring trilogy. I heard somewhere that there was going to be a War of the Worlds movie that was going to be made, but then 9-11 happened and it was put on a back burner. Then a few months ago I read that Tom Cruise might star in a WOTW movie. Although I'm not all that enamored with Tom Cruise, if his name is attached to a project, maybe it will come out. Hopefully it's set in the past, not the future. And please, no remake of that god-awful TV show.

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late 80's/early 90's they did a remake of war of the worlds for holloween night. they did it as if the earth was being invaded similiar to the original orson wells radio play. it had actual news people portraying themselves.
ufo enters atmosphere and is shot down. aliens respond by sending a asteroid on collision with earth. space base missiles are used to destroy asteroid at Last minute. while everyone is congratulating themselves they pan to norads space tracking screen and it shows hundreds of asteroids on collision course. turns out the aliens were friendly until we shot down the ufo. there were lots of "special reports" during the program as if they reporting on a ufo crash and the followup investigation. it was enjoyable. i would have liked it better if it was actually on multiple channels.

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Glenn Beck, a talk-show host, did a remake of the radio production of War of the Worlds just Last Holloween. It was actually pretty good.

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Battlestar Galactica is being played this entire week on Sci-Fi. Funny how some SEIV rules seen to be working there.

1)Fighters rule...apparently because point-defense isn't really very good. Which mod is that?

2)Cargo CAN carry population. (Colonial Movers "We move anywhere" ship is nothing but cargo holds)

3)Clearly Galactica is in a P&N mod...they're always picking up supplies and moving along.

4)Cylons must have dropped their aggressiveness and defensiveness traits to get the emotionless and hardy industrialists traits. They can't hit anything and get blown away in massive numbers, but apparently can build LOTS.

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Speaking of BG, have you heard the latest on the remake? There's supposed to be a female Starbuck. That's something I can't picture. A female Boomer maybe, but not Starbuck! Although she's probably a babe, but to play Starbuck she'd almost have to play it like a cigar-chomping butch type.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">not necessarily, Geena Davis played a good pirate captain in CutThroat Island. a character like her would work out well.

edit: here is the description of the character.

Kara "Starbuck" Thrace, in her late 20s to early 30s, is a loner, which makes her an oddity among the Galactica’s tight-knit crew of pilots. She’s tough and ballsy with a certain worldliness. She’s as undisciplined and rebellious out of the cockpit as she is calculating and precise in it. Her mouth has definitely held back her career. Not fond of Colonel Paul Tigh, the ship’s Executive Officer, she enjoys both taunting him and beating him at cards. A take-charge woman who runs around the ship in a jogging bra and shorts, who might be attracted to Lee Adama, Kara is a warrior spoiling for a fight, and she gets her chance at battle when the Cylons attack. Forced to fly an antiquated fighter, Kara soon learns that the "modern" spacecraft have been infiltrated by a Cylon computer virus, and that only older fighters can survive in combat. Lucky, smart, and tough, Kara soon finds herself the point woman in Adama’s efforts to fight back against the Cylons. But when Adama and President Roslin agree to make a run for it, Kara must use her battle-honed skills not to fight the enemy, but to defend the fragile nucleus of humanity carried aboard the Galactica to an unknown future.

soo much for the geena davis character type.

[ February 18, 2003, 19:52: Message edited by: desdinova ]

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Essentially, the producer ignored all the politics and important stuff. Then filled in his own impression because he didn't like Heinlein's political beliefs.

Nit: vets didn't take over the government in a coup as Micheal Ironside's character implied. Governments had collapsed around the world and in Aberdeen (earliest known case) some vets got together and formed a provisional government that eventually became worldwide.

Nit2: Sergeant Zim was a harsh taskmaster in the book, not a brutal thug like in the movie. (The scene where a recruit asks about training with knives ended in a small lecture by Zim about "there are no dangerous weapons, only dangerous men" and not Zim throwing a dagger through the recruit's hand.

Trivia1: Reference to Sergeant Zim is leading me to replace him with Invader Zim. But then my mind is twisted.

I think I'll stop here.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">And on and on. I think the only thing that was the same was that humans were fighting bugs. On a realated note can anyone think of any Sci-Fi movie (or any movie) based on a book that was actually good? The only thing close that I've seen were actualy Outer Limits episodes that were based on Sci-Fi short stories. Even then they were a bit disapointing.

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Don't remember that one. Unless it happened from June 87 to June 88, when I was in Korea. I missed a lot of television during that year, and probably missed out on a lot of stuff I probably still don't know about.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">And on and on. I think the only thing that was the same was that humans were fighting bugs. On a realated note can anyone think of any Sci-Fi movie (or any movie) based on a book that was actually good? The only thing close that I've seen were actualy Outer Limits episodes that were based on Sci-Fi short stories. Even then they were a bit disapointing.[/QB]</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">well, all too true. Most movies don't resemble the books they're based on. Just look at almost any Stephen King or Tom Clancy movie. I can't understand the Hollywood mentality to think that they got to rework a best-selling book into a bomb. There are exceptions, but so few I can't think of too many. I did like the most recent Version of The Time Machine. And I prefer The Running Man movie to the book. Those are the only ones I can think of.

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desdinova - wasn't that like the story from Buck Rogers? There the most advanced Earth fighters were supposed to run by computers. Unfortunately, those computers were sold to Earth by the Draconians, who pretty much waxed the Earth forces left and right. It took Buck Rogers flying by his own skill to save the day and convince the humans they should depend on their own abilities. That and some disco dancing...egad! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

(Homer voice: mmmmmmm...Wilma Deering)

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cheese - i think your right. no one knew how to fly without the computer. i beleive he began teaching them how to fly by the seat of their pants. then of course he was useful as he was not in the computer records like he every one else was since birth.
of course this was nothing like the book either http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

edit: i wonder when its coming out on dvd.
edit 2: nope it was only 1 episode (EPISODE 4)that had that problem. <a href="http://www.buck-rogers.com" target="_blank">
LINK TO BUCKROGERS</a>

[ February 19, 2003, 07:37: Message edited by: desdinova ]

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and the fact that for some bizarre reason, all the cute galactic babes like Princess Ardala and Wilma Deering (bidda bidda bidda to that) found Buck irrestibly attractive!!

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">hmmm,.. The Thing, Planet of the Apes (original!), The Omega Man, 2001: a Space Odyssey, Greystoke: The Legend of Tarzan, Jurassic Park, Hunt for Red October, etc, etc, etc.

I could go on and on, for some reason the 'Good' ones seem to be 'memorable'. Dune comes to mind, but you'd have to clip the ending (prevent Paul from causing it to rain) over-all Dune is well done, but Dune had just a few 'major' bugs that basically raped the original book! The Mini-Series was/is a much better adaptation of the book!

Cheers! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

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I'll add another to that list of movies: James Cameron's "The Abyss".

Interesting note on "The Abyss" and "2001". In both cases the book was written at the same time as the film, and in both cases changes in the film were made because of the book, and vice versa. Whether this helped I leave to the viewer/reader!

Steve.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">There was a book based on "The Abyss"? I'm sure there was a novelization of the movie, but I can't picture James Cameron being dictated to by an author. On the other hand, I know that Stanly Kubrick worked hand to hand with Clarke to work on 2001. I don't see that book as a novelization of the movie.

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growltigger...gotta give Buck credit, he had his share of pretty women. But can anyone compare to Captain Kirk (as played by the One True Shatner, or OTS as Shatnerologists reverently refer to the Great One) who would entrall anything remotely female, at any time, in any place!!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

raynor: (for post above this one) The midgets TK'ing Wilma Deering's clothes off have been mentioned several times already. Unless you said it, in which case, yes, we remember it...quite well!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[ February 23, 2003, 15:22: Message edited by: Cheeze ]

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Does anyone remember the Buck Rogers episode where they encounter the PK-able folks who have never seen a woman before?

Off-Think! Off-Think! Off-Think!

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">hmmm,.. The Thing, Planet of the Apes (original!), The Omega Man, 2001: a Space Odyssey, Greystoke: The Legend of Tarzan, Jurassic Park, Hunt for Red October, etc, etc, etc.

I could go on and on, for some reason the 'Good' ones seem to be 'memorable'. Dune comes to mind, but you'd have to clip the ending (prevent Paul from causing it to rain) over-all Dune is well done, but Dune had just a few 'major' bugs that basically raped the original book! The Mini-Series was/is a much better adaptation of the book!

Cheers! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">OMG Dune!!! Really? Guess we'll have to agree to disagree here. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif I think Dune is a classic example of a totally brilliant book (posibly my favourite of all time) and an unbelievable bad movie. But yea that mini series was pretty good. The only other examples you gave that I have seen the movie and read the book was Jurasic Park and I thought the book was much much better. I guess I always like the books better because you can get so much more depth in a novel than you can in a 2 hour movie. I suppose if you were to put all the chapters from a book in the movie it would be god knows how many hours!

Edit: I guess in my orginal post I should have said "better than or as good as the book" instead of just 'good'

[ February 23, 2003, 22:09: Message edited by: DavidG ]

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So the absoulte best Sci-Fi show of all time ( and possible the best TV show of all time) Outer Limits is now on the Space channel at 6pm EST every weekday!!1 WOOHOO http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Easy, any Tom Clancy book made into a movie will always beat the book. IMHO all his books make for a very dry read. He always tries to cram way too much detail into his naration!

Jurassic Park was/is a better book than movie, but the movie was very well done.

I read Dune after seeing the movie and I was amazed at how much they managed to get into the film. I also imediately noticed how bad some stuff got raped. Most if not all the people I know that saw the film read the books first and all they noticed is what was missing or distorted. My having seen the film without having read the books gave me a different perspective. The reactions that my friends had prompted me to read the book to get the real story. I can't go back and say I didn't like the movie because I did like it. That would be like having a good steak diner and saying you enjoyed it very much then finding out it was bear meat and changing your mind! I don't play that game.

Also I don't agree to disagree, I prefer to say we are in agreement about dune, but have both experienced it from a different perspective. I now recognise that the film was much less than it could have been. But that could also be said of every film ever made! Hindsight is 20-20 after all!

Cheers!

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Just adding some information. Last week, the Sci-Fi channel played Battlestar Galactica from 11-4pm every weekday.

They are doing it again this week, but with Buck Rogers. I'm wondering if I need to set my VCR and then check back for the particularly good episodes. Oh sure, there's the "off think" one with Colonel Deerings' bumps...but how about that one with the space vampire when Wilma got turned and she started acting extra sexy? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

I noticed something in the Buck Roger's movie today. They had the same flight controls as the Vipers do. Makes that 13th tribe connection more believable...so to speak. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif

Update: Sci-Fi was showing the Night Stalker today. Maybe they'll show Buck Rogers every Monday or something. There's always hope.

[ February 25, 2003, 18:32: Message edited by: Cheeze ]

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Oh yeah.... the space vampire episode is one to watch. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Does anyone remember Space: 1999? They just delivered the DVD Megaset. It's 48 hours of sci-fi for about $120. I watched the first one Last night, and man, did it bring back memories. I used to have a walkie-talkie that looked like their communication devices.

I wonder if Star Trek: The Original Series DVD's will ever drop in price. It seems like they are still about $15 mail-order for every two episode disc.

Does anyone remember an old sci-fi series about an Ark? They had these stun weapons that reflect the sun, and they had a food technology that seemed like it was similar to replicators. I think maybe their uniforms were mostly white. I think maybe they had a smaller vehicle that would come down a ramp from the back of the 'ark'. The ark was just a big traveling ground vehicle. Wow. That was a LONG time ago.

I also remember an old sci-fi show about something like the Phoenix. It seemed like it was an Native American looking dude with a phoenix symbol on a chain that could transform or something. Hmm... okay, that is more fantasy than sci-fi.

There is another sci-fi show that was short lived called maybe Other World? It seems like a family of four was swept into this other world and was trying to get out. I remember one episode where all the people were androids because of high radiation levels. It was cute. The son fell in love with the young android girl who showed him her "light" on a master board and said it represented her "soul". I still remember having a crush on her.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I wonder if you are talking about Earth 2? They had that race of spear carrying aliens that communicated in dreams and would shoot up out of the ground and back again. They had VR gear that was pretty cool. The series was just so flat, I thought.

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raynor...those bring back memories. I think I needed a life even then, I watched so much television, apparently.

First, Space 1999. From the same production company that did The Muppet Show. I really liked the shapeshifter, she was really cool. That was Moonbase Alpha, and hadn't the moon been yanked away from Earth or some such thing.

Phoenix was pretty fun to watch. The same actor who played Khan's number one guy in Wrath of Khan. I liked all his special powers, and how he was constantly on the run from government agents, if I remember right.

Last, Ark 2. That was Saturday morning television, before/during/after the Kroft Supershow (H.R. Puffenstuff anyone?). Was that oriented around a family in a post-apocalypse environment? I remember the sun-powered weapons...I seem to think they used a similar sound effect as the martians in the classic War of the Worlds movie. If that doesn't bring up The Land of the Lost..and not that terrible remake. And Jason and the Star Patrol. And the Bay City Rollers Saturday Morning Special...AAAAGHH!! Someone stop me! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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There is another sci-fi show that was short lived called maybe Other World? It seems like a family of four was swept into this other world and was trying to get out.

Was this per chance a show called 'Fantastic Journey'? At least that is what the description sounds like! I thought it was pretty good. It was playing at the same time as another show that I liked called 'Cliffhanger' with Susan Anton.

Aaaah the memories! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Cheers!

Edit: P.S. wasn't there a TV series adaptation of 'Westworld'? That seems to ring a bell too!

[ February 26, 2003, 12:07: Message edited by: David E. Gervais ]

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Yeah, I remember Space: 1999. That was a good show... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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Raynor you are correct the name of the series is Otherworld and is from 1985. it was a good series.
"The Sterlings are a typical California family who visit the Great Pyramid of Cheops in Egypt. On this day there is a particular alignment of the planets which occurs once every tens of thousands of years. At that time they pass into another dimension which constitutes a whole other universe. The family journeys through this Otherworld trying to find their way back home."

too bad there is not someway to order dvds or downloads of selected series.

[ February 27, 2003, 04:42: Message edited by: desdinova ]

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while not really sci-fi does anybody remember the series the hitchhiker with page fletcher from either hbo or showtime. sort of a twilight zone series.

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I remember that show, and it was HBO. Of the episodes I saw, I say it was pretty good. Mostly I remember there being some nudity in each episode. I wonder how it could be edited and still make sense when the show finally came to late night tv? I never watched any of those shows.

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Does anyone remember the Buck Rogers episode with Buster Crabbe (sp?)? It had one of the best lines in television history. All of the Earth pilots were sick and they recalled the veterans, one of whom was Crabbe. While they prepared for battle Rogers was giving some advice, Crabbe said, "son I've been doing this since before you were born", Rogers made some smart-assed comment like "you think so", to which Crabbe responded, "I know so". Maybe it's just me but I love that.

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Yeah, I remember Buster Crabbe being in an episode, but it's been so long since I've seen Buck Rogers I can't recall any of the details. That was a good show until they changed the format in the Last season.

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i remember the episode, i didnt realize that was buster crabbe. of course at that time i didnt really pay attention to such details. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif now that you have pointed that out it makes the scene completely different. at the time i remember thinking he doesnt know buck's real age.

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Any news about whether Firefly is going to get picked up by another network?

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They played that Buck Rogers epsiode on Sci-Fi this past Monday. It was the episode with Jack Palance as the evil cult leader guy who was responsible for poisoning the Earth's food supply.

Pablo, backing up what you said, I have to agree I always thought the same thing...viewing that comment from the frame of reference of the characters. Having a double-meaning from the actors' perspective makes that comment even funnier.