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Thanks T, I'll make those changes tonight.

Just out of interest, do you (or anyone else) have all of those races installed on your HD at once? That would be impressive.

I currently have 132 races installed, totalling >300 meg!

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You are correct about the Pyrochette, however, there were three Versions, there was one with a different race portrait, and another that was gray instead of brown/tan.

I do have a tendancy to label things protrait for some reason, I don't know why I do that....

Anyways, the Galactic Command (G) is gone. I no longer have the finished shipset, nor do I care to pull the files out of storage and rerender them.

The old turians to which you reffer is actually the new turians, the ones I uploaded recently were the old turians, I labeled the other shipsets turians simply for lack of a better name. The ships you ask about though are being used as the basis for another shipset though, so they will be rerealesed sometime in the future.

[ April 23, 2003, 21:41: Message edited by: ZeroAdunn ]

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Yes, the "Ultimate Mod" was never released, just a "Preview" If the Ultimate mod had everything Hadrian said it was going to have, then yes, it was probably the Ultimate mod, if it just continued in the form of the Preview, then it was far from ultimate.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I only have 137 installed in my Gold Version.

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Hadrian had nearly completed the UM, IIRC it had been in a state of polishing. What slowed him down was the need to develop new racesets, scenarios and other nice things to have in a mod.

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I found a race missed off the race dir: Phoenix-D's Cluk Ruk Protectorate. It might be named after a neutral empire, but it is a full and original race, and a really good one at that.
http://seiv.pbw.cc/Download/filelib/470/Cluk-Ruk.zip

Actually, that makes 133 races installed - I didn't count this one because it is in my pictures/raceneutral folder.

*dogscoff hurriedly downloads another half-dozen races just to top Fyron http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

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Thanks dogscogff, I 've asled phoenix D to host it, that way it will gain notoriety.

I have many shipset on my HD indeed, but i would be unable to tell how many (about 70, I think). Everything is mixed in several Versions of SE IV or in external folders, or it's still in zip format. It's a real mess. I'll have to create a CD with all that stuff clearly arranged one day.

So I don't own all the shipsets that are previewed on the racedir; Andres have sent me many preview pics I was unable to find, and I grab some directly from the zip file without copying it to my computer.

I have in project to get all shipsets on a cd, to prevent them from disapearing when a site close (the death of SE.org has given me a lot of work to find all shipsets that were available on it).
But it's a huge and neverending task, as a new shipset or new Version of a old one comes out every week.

ZeroAdunn : about turians : COMWEALTH and TURIAN are the same race, you confirm ? I will change that on the racedir.

About "protrait" : Maybe the first signs of dyslexie ? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif I'm used to writing "thaht" instead of "that", I don't know why too.

Anyone else owns this mysterious "G" race ? (I've got to ask to my Last hope, Andres; he's going to hate me, being sollicited every two days for another shipset) Well, I'll have to put the "L.I.A." status on it. One more I couldn't save from oblivion...

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Could you also ask him (assuming he's not reading this himself) to change the smallsatellite.bmp to satellitesmall.bmp (same with the large one)- that will bring his set into line with the ++ standard and the change I've asked PvK to make to Proportions. Sooner or later I'll get round to requesting the same change of all mods.

Oh, and if Phoenix-D isn't able to host the ClukRuk himself, I'd be honoured to have them on my site.

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well, if you want to host it, no pb for me, ask him yourself and tell him to ignore my Last message. (send a private message, I don't have the email address)

If I could change something on the cluk-ruk, it would be the tiny transport : it has the same size as the small transport, it just have to be resized to be OK.

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"I found a race missed off the race dir: Phoenix-D's Cluk Ruk Protectorate. It might be named after a neutral empire, but it is a full and original race, and a really good one at that.
http://seiv.pbw.cc/Download/filelib/470/Cluk-Ruk.zip"

Thanks, but..

"Actually, that makes 133 races installed - I didn't count this one because it is in my pictures/raceneutral folder."

Wait. You put the pictures in the NEUTRAL directory? Ah well, that's what I get for not making an AI. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Anyone's welcome to host it if they want. I may look at revising the set later, but not at the moment (my bryce skills have gotten rusty, heh)

Phoenix-D

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yeah. Well, like you say, it has no AI. Also, I didn't want to have the situation where the Clukruk neutrals and the Clukruk regulars appeared on the same map. I could have removed them from the neutrals but I have precious few of those anyway. So I moved your set into there.

They are in one of my proportions games right now and they are looking very very cool.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">In that case, I'll host them. It's a great set that deserves a place in the sun. Do you mind if I rename the sats as I suggested? It will probably mean they get more exposure.

EDIT: Over 150 races installed now, Fyron. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

[ April 24, 2003, 16:26: Message edited by: dogscoff ]

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Yeah, go ahead and change the names if you want.

First explain to me why the change was made- did I goof or did you change the standard on me? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Phoenix-D

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">There is at least 1 mod you don't have to worry about. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I have a lot of races installed in regular SE4 that I never found Gold Versions for and was too lazy to convert to Gold myself... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

Trooper:
I am using the Race Dir page to get more shipsets. I click on a link to go find the set for download. When I hit back, it takes me back to the main SOTAS page and not to the Race Dir page. I don't know why it is doing that, but it is annoying. Any way you could fix it?

Also, can you eliminate all links to Shrapnel uploads pages, and replace them with direct links to the files? I could not find the Brachyura or Corrian set from those links....

Could you please remove the read-only attributes of all ship sets hosted on SOTAS, such as the Federal Union? There is no reason for them to have that attribute, and it makes downloading a new Version more difficult than necessary.

You missed the Kobaia shipset, which is in the PBW file library.

The Nloam sample pic is missing the smiley next to it indicating it has a preview page on SOTAS.

The page for the Nu'Wam Partnership has no images, nor a download link.

The Vasudan set is on this page, not where you have it linked: http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/For.../000017-5.html

[ April 24, 2003, 20:38: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

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DS:
200 races now. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">THere was no standard for additional sat images when you made the set- you were the first.

Now there is mlmbd's ++ standard which includes the extra sats but names them differently to the way you did. He's already released (at least) 2 compatible sets, and I'm working on a third.

ALl we have to do now is get modders to alter their mods to use the images- just have satellitesmall, satellitemedium, satellitelarge sat as the primary image and satellite as the secondary for all of them. THat way the mod stays fully backward-compatible but supports extra images. The same thing can be done for mines and drones.

Fyron: Curses!

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Hey, Trooper -- I just ran afoul of a bad link in the Directory.

Y'see, I got ALL excited when I read that there was a "Dark Pyrochette" ... I rather like the Pyrochette ships, and the thought of a DARKER set like that, well ... let's just say, I wasted no time rushing over and downloading it.

Unfortunately, the link doesn't point to the DARK Pyrochette, but rather, to the NORMAL Pyrochette.

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

Look for yourself, the two links you have for Pyrochette at SGIF are the same.

Hopefully someone can point you (and, therefor, ME) to the right place to get the Dark Pyrochette. I really want them, especially as I'm getting more and more into playing team games ... and being able to have myself and my partner use the same basic shipset, just in different colors, would be QUITE nice, IMO. 8)

BTW, in general -- I'm glad to see you're making a home for those shipsets that had become un-hosted. It'd be a shame to see the diversity of SE4 shipsets start to decline ...

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Phoenix-D's Clukruk republic is now hosted at my website:

http://www.sandman43.fsnet.co.uk/clukruk.htm

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">My god! How high do you think it will go?

This game amazes me. Here it is well past two years since it release and it is still going strong. Thank you MOO3. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Good. Now go finish the KanesS why don't you... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Working on it now. I think I've just finished up the Last of my "pixels for hire" race portraits too, so I have no other distractions.

Well, almost no distractions...

Anyway, I just posted a bunch of new pics today. Once I've done small weapons platform (working on it now) there will be enough images to start a game using the KanesS and not see any generic images at all.

http://www.sandman43.fsnet.co.uk/KanesS.htm

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Dunno. As there is a "target="new" attribute on the links, a new window should be opened when you click on a link.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">If someone give me the good links. (no time for that at the moment).

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Maybe, need a few time for that.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Link ? (can't find it)

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">maniac ! it's done now.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">See with katchoo, he owns the page...

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">will correct that soon, thanks.
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PS : as you seem to have lot of shipsets on your HD, I'm going to annoy you next time I'll be looking for one http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

sorry for the quick answers, I've got urgent things to do !

[ April 27, 2003, 08:21: Message edited by: trooper ]

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Fyron : Kobaia is a clone of Aquilians, nethertheless I've added them, just for info.

- corrected the link on Vasudian.

- Added the "kobol" from PBW.

-Warned Katchoo for Nu'Wan pb.

- Still don't understand your browsing pb, what navigator do you use (I DON'T support Netscape) ?.

Dogscoff : also added Clukruk republic

Pax :

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">That's exaclty my way of thinking. But time is fighting against me, it's very hard to find some shipsets indeed.

Dark pyrochette is an example : unable to find it at the moment (Andres, Fyron... ?)

If you want to play in teams with the same race in different colors , I would suggest you use Jraenar stock race, it exists in four colors.(see Green Yellow, Orange, Purple Lizards). Or you can create your own fleet.

ZeroAdunn : finally got the modified G race from Andres. With a light race portrait (I saw a lot of them in zip files recently, who owns the rights ?), it could make a suitable race ("white and pure" concept, or neutral race). May I host it ?

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Good news for you, Pax : the Dark Pyrochette is now available on SOTAS : http://diesel2035.free.fr/hosted/pyrochettedark

Some resize work has been done on the pics, because they all have the same size in the original Version. Author remains unknown.

A big thanks to Andres for the original race he've sent to me.

If if you have other shipset requests, you can try your luck here.

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Trooper thank you again for your excellent and huge work. I thought I had already most races but thank to your work I realized how many more are out there and where I could get them.

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Dont forget to add the Azlokians to your list ^_^

I geuss if its okay with Hugh, you can host them too, if you wanted.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Thank you! thank you thank you thank you!

Okay, those ships aren't identical to the standard Pyrochette, but they're very very close. 8)

Now, if I can figure a way to take THOSE fairly monochrome ships, and just tweak the palletes, I might be able to have a whole set of "same ships, different colors" shipsets. Whee!

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Dogscoff, it seems I don't have Ur-quan...

About chaos, is it the atraikius Version hosted on SOTAS ? if no, I would like to have a look on it too...

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That's an excellent site, Trooper. (State of the Art Spaceyards)
Everytime I go there, there's a few more races added to it! Most of them I have never seen before. Very nice work.
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">You need a _ in front of new. It should be "Target="_new"". Otherwise, it can confuse IE, as it looks for an existing frame named new. When it fails to find it, it makes a new frame in a new window. The "_" tells the browser that this will definitely be a new frame, not an existing one. This might be what causes the problem. Or it could be something else.

The Pyrochette were a race on the SE Universe Ladder run by Grand Mausic Yith Saulkar. I am fairly certain that Yith Saulkar (take out his title) was the author of the Dark Pyrochette set.

[ May 11, 2003, 01:25: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Thanks !
If you haven't seen them before, maybe it's because I'm looking for races that can't be found anywhere indeed...

I've added lot of stuff in the latest weeks, but I'll have to slow down now, because I'm going back to work, after seven months being unemployed. So there will be less "new" material on the site. My current priority is to complete the starship race.

Fyron : I had forgotten about the "target="_new" attribute when I made the race dir, but it would be an interesting feature to set, with an automatic replacement method, of course (about 250 links to update...) !

Dogscoff : Can you send me Ur-quan, please ?

Recent shipset authors : By the way, is there any new shipset I could have missed in the racedir ?

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">It's vary easy to apply a hue and saturation filter to all pictures in a shipset, or a gamma correction filter for those that are too dark if you have the apropiate software.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I have MS Paint.

And that's -all- I have ... relatively speaking, I'm poor.

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lol same here MS paint only..

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[quote]Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:

Quote:

I am fairly certain that Yith Saulkar (take out his title) was the author of the Dark Pyrochette set.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hugh. I never knew that Yith did the Dark Pyrochette, and in fact, I knew the Dark Pyrochette only a few months ago.

Edit: but yes, the pictures looks like the Pyrochette ships but not identical, then, think probably they were done by Joel Joines.

[ May 12, 2003, 01:39: Message edited by: Master Belisarius ]

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MB:
Similar reasoning is what led me to that conclusion, not any knowledge that he made it. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">You can set a base target for the whole page. I think that you use it like this:

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">code:</font><hr /><pre style="font-size:x-small; font-family: monospace;">&lt;body&gt;
&lt;base target=&quot;_new&quot;&gt;

&lt;p&gt;blah blah blah&lt;/p&gt; </pre><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">This will make all a tags have a target of _new if there is no target listed, so you can do a replace all to get rid of the target="new" tags and add the base target. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Pax:
There are a number of free graphics editors out there. One example is http://www.openoffice.org/, which is a free, open source suite like MS Office. It has Versions of Word, Excel, Power Point, and the graphics programs that MS Office comes with (though I think they are designed better, as MS is not good at graphics http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif ).

[ May 12, 2003, 02:06: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]