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maybe something else can convert?
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'Took me about two weeks for this one. It's an exact copy of the movie's troop transports. All other warship pictures will be based on it.
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Pretty dam sweet trooper, this is definitly one of the best ships i've seen. I can't wait to see if you do work for starfury when it's out, i can only imagine flying around in ships as good as these http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
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I'm working with bryce, but the trouble is all that work will be lost for SE V, because bryce can't export its files."
And even if it did, the polygon count would be way, way too high- the ships made would make the game very choppy. Phoenix-D |
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I know it's fat to much for SE V to manage (it asks about 15 minutes to my computer to render a single image). I must find a way to make my shipset more simple, if I want to see them running on SE V on day.
Ragnarok, Raging deathstar : hold on, there's still lots of work to be done. You can preview the work done until now on the starship page, if you like. (a few ships made during the Last days). |
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It looks like your going to have to go to low poly models, with all of the detailing in the 'skin' for the next Version. right now, I'm working on making rough models with Doga and exporting them to dxf files, then using crossroads to convert them to either 3ds or obj files, opening them in anim8or, using UVmapper to make a single bmp map of the model surfaces, painting the bmp file using 3d images made with POV-ray, then going back to anim8or to put the new 'skin' on the model, exporting as a 3ds model, and then converting the 3ds model into a direct3d x file. (actually sounds worse than it is, the Doga model only takes about 10 - 15 minutes, with anouther 30 minutes to clean it up in anim8or, and the 3d POV images are just textured 'hull plates', or detailed areas that I can splice together and reuse - same POV model with different texture/material, if I need something fancier, I can again use Doga, export, and then convert into a POV format).
Something worthwile to look into if you are interested in making models for Starfury, and probably SEV, is creating models for Star Fleet Command, they seem fairly similar, and there is a lot of information on creating Star Fleet Command models (and a lot of models that could be imported without too much problem) |
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http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif Said like that, it seems a real hell to make ships for starfury/SEV.... Is there a simpler way to generate good looking .x files ?
Is there a 3D tool that is able to proceed all these steps ? About the Citizen Federation Shipset : it's doing well, just 14 picture to draw and the first Version will be released. You can have a look at URL and give your "beta" impressions : http://diesel2035.free.fr/starship/ |
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Your shipset is really superb. I'll be one of the hundreds fan downloading it as soon as it is released, put some bugs races around, and launch a game, me against them http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
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Three cheers for a shipset that has a different "leader" picture from the "population" picture!
Hip hip hooray!!! Hip hip hooray!!! Hip hip hooray!!! The rest of it looks extremely nice and promising, as well! PvK |
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Trooper, did you read the book from which is - extremely distantly - inspired the movie?
I find the book far more interesting than the movie btw. |
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Pocus : No, I've never read the related book. Is it a comic or a novel ? [ May 12, 2003, 20:08: Message edited by: trooper ] |
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If I recall well your email is at free.fr, so I will asume that you are french (as me). The title in french is 'Etoile Garde à vous', and it was wrote by Robert Heinlein. In english the title is Starship trooper.
a french URL on Heinlein can be found at http://rocbo.chez.tiscali.fr/Max/sf/heinlein.htm for others english speaking persons, you can at least see the author picture on this URL. The original book is very distant from the movie. I must say that I was rather deceived by the film. This is not to say that the film is bad, but rather really far from the book. For example in the initial book, the troopers are elite soldiers which all rely on heavy enhanced robotic armor. They have jump pack, portable tactical missile launcher, and are stuffed with high tech gear. Loosing one trooper is a big loss. In the film, it is laughable. You see hords of soldiers, some armed with small fire arms. If you look at the intent of Voerheven (sp?), you see an action movie. If you read Heinlein, and know a little bit about why he wrote the book, you understand that it try to depict how horrible is a war, any war. If I recall well the book was aimed partly against the vietnam war. Well anyway you should read the book. The troopers against bugs encounters are really scary. You really see that even with this powerful and awesome gears, the soldiers are only poor little humans which are governed by primal feelings, like fear and self preservation. |
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Heinlein's book is considered a classic in the genre. I have not seen the movie, but everything I've heard is that it bears only a passing semblence to the book (the title and the bugs).
The book is mainly set in boot camp and in the classroom (truth!). There are only two extended combat sequences in the entire novel - the beginning and the end. It's mainly a political and sociological treatise. I don't agree with everything Heinlein wrote in it, but some of it is downright prescient (and scary). In the book, he predicted the rise of predatory urban street gangs in the USA (remember, the book was written in 1959!), and that the Third World War would be the Russians, English and Americans vs the Chinese. Definitely food for thought.... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif |
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Before somebody jump on me, I went to a big Heinlein fan site. Seems the book was written in 1958, so the war critics put into the work was aimed not against Vietnam (it would have been difficult!, but against war in general).
Also about the movie, here is a commentary from the fan site: "Starship Troopers" (1997) Filmed by Tri-Star Pictures with a budget said to be in the neighborhood of $90 million, and directed by Paul Verhoeven. It manages to faintly resemble the action elements of the novel while missing almost the entire point. What elements of the political and social issues make it into the film are so distorted (a clearly fascist government, Sergeant Zim as a sadistic bully) as to make fans of the novel cry in their popcorn. A wretched mess, best summarized as "Bughunt 90210." the fan site I refer is http://www.nitrosyncretic.com/rah/ Seems that Heinlein wrote a ton of scifi books which I didnt knew about. Enjoy! |
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Heinlein raises some controversial points in the book (democracy vs. meritocracy, jail vs. physical punishment) which bear thinking about. More so now than in 1958, in fact.
Labelling the book fascist and sadistic is the easy, closed-minded way out. This is apparently what the script writer for the movie chose to do. So if you haven't read the book... do so. I can't recommend it highly enough. I might not agree with everything that's written there, but I do recommend the book. |
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'worked well this week end : unmodded pictures are completed. Coming soon, the first Version downloadable.
PS : I would need a military-looking speech file for this race (my vocabulary is still poor)... any volunteer ? [ May 18, 2003, 23:26: Message edited by: trooper ] |
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The shipset/racestyle is looking good!
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Superb, really superb! I cant wait to play with.
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Thats amazing, i like this race, it seems very industrialised, I like it. The troops are especially unique and represent the carrying infantry aspect. So this is your Last shipset for SE4, it's a great shipset to go out on. Happy to know you'll be around for starfury and SEV http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
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That is an excellent set trooper. And yes, I would advise reading the book, I liked the movie, but the book is 1000% better. And it is short too!
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Thanks.
The citizen federation Version 1.0 is available. Unmodded pictures, and no AI at the moment. You'll get more a bit later... The site seems to be down at the moment, so I hope the zip file will be available in the coming hours. 'Got to go to bed now... Now I'll have more time to update the racedir and increase the hosted zone with al the files that have been sent to me... [ May 19, 2003, 23:07: Message edited by: trooper ] |
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Oups, woke up this morning and saw that the page doesn't include the link to the zip file...
Here it is : http://diesel2035.free.fr/starship/starship1.0.zip |
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Ya, this ship set is pretty nice.
Keep up the good work! |
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Alas, It will be my Last orginal shipset for SE IV. All I'm gonna do in the future will be hosting shipsets and keeping the racedir up to date. I'm also going to investigate 3d pictures designing for starfury and SEV. |
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Which, given the proper rending, could just as easily work for sE4..
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That's right, but it will not look as nice as my current work with SE IV, as SE V designs will have to be much simpler in terms of textures and polygons.
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'Working hard on Starship V2...
I made this "military" speech file, and I don't know if every sentence makes sense in english... (pidgin is my mother tongue http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif ) http://diesel2035.free.fr/starship_AI_Speech.txt So if SO has some free time to have a look and correct it (and, why not, add some sentences), I would be thankful... |
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Beuargh ! (Troopers' word for Bump)
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You traitor! We can guess that you were just about to betray our trust. The treaty is off!
You traitor! We guessed that you were just about to betray our trust. The treaty is off! We have decided to stop definitvely the black thoughts that comes from your empire. Let's make war now ! We have decided to stop definitively the black thoughts that come from your empire. Let's make war now ! that's long so i'd just run it through a spell checker. if the syntax is off, just remember, it's an alien race. |
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Trooper, I know I'm not exactly the most conventual person here. I understand the desire for perfection, (and I respect it). Still, Who knows what the centuries will do to language? It could be some form of pidgen will be the standard. This is Sci Fi.
Besides, woe betide the one who hives you a gard time about your english. Edit: *gives you a hard time* [ June 13, 2003, 13:05: Message edited by: Gryphin ] |
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Corrected those two ones, thanks.
I'm trying to have something as clean as possible, as it's not exaclty an alien race, it's a human shipset... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif |
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Yes, indeed ! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
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Very nice, Tropper!
I didn't realize that there was a Large Colony Ship in Neo-Standard. I guess that's another ship for me to do too http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif |
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oh, starting from the colony ship picture, this one is easy to do, with some copy/paste actions...
BTW, this race have a pretty good psychic AI, which build numerous armored troop transports (watch out for your colonies). You should try it. |
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Very very good. I like this shipset as it looks very industrial and "human", as it should be. Definitely a great addition to the SEIV shipsets. I love the troops! And the Heavy Cruiser stands out too. Very good work! I also like the weapons platforms, very unique http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
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Thanks. By the way, that was my Last shipset for SE IV. Now working for SE V http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif ...
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Beautiful set, man.
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No, I'm going to learn how to make 3dx graphics !
I'm also creating component pictures that will be usefull for SEV future mods. |
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The movie sucked, but those are very nice ships. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif
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Why not. But I 've got to learn how to use Povray/moray first, it seems to be a difficult task...
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