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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">If his server has no connection, then his personal system is prolly down also. He was at work when he posted yesterday.

Well if it gets to bad, and you start to get the DT's, there is always PBEM http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">He posted a message yesterday that said the server was fine...just no Internet connectivity. I would be fairly certain that he stopped auto-processing when he got home. I think he gets home around 6pm. So, any turn running after that (approximate time guess) time would not have run.

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Geoschmo,
I tried to make a donation to PBEM by clicking on the link in your sig and got:

Error Detected
You have entered non-US-ASCII characters such as ?and ? Non-US characters are not currently supported. Please use alternatives like GBP and e, then try again.

The URL that comes up is:
https://www.paypal.com/xclick/busine...=0¤cy_code=USD

BTW, just an update:
http://66.134.102.75/graphic/index.jsp
is inacccessible, though I understand this is the ISP, not your server.
Merry

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">It's not now, but I will turn it off when I get home. If your turn was due to run in the Last few hours you missed it. But you can get your game owner to reset it. I am sure we am going to be bombarded with such requests this weekend.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The turn which I was worried ran three hours ago so I missed it http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif Geo, can you guess who's the game owner of that game? Right, you http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif I'm speaking about 2024 which is luckily my only fully automatic -game.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">you are too good anyway :-P

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this means that you should not enter the currency symbol - try EUR instead http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">

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The error comes up when you just click on the link. I didn't enter any money amount yet.
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif

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try https://www.paypal.com/xclick/busine...me=Play+By+Web

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I guess if his ISP is down for the PBW server, he might not have any connection to the internet from home. That would explain why he hasn't posted any updates.

Or perhaps he's busy backdating all the processed games. Or, just maybe, he has real-life things to do. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Nah, couldn't be that. SEIV is much more important..hee hee

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well, on a personal note, I hope he didn't get in an accident...'cause I know if there was a way to post an update, he'd do it. A neighbor or a phone call to someone to post something. (something!) 'Cause he knows how much people "live" for their games. So....I hope he's OK.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">This is how rumors start. Next thing you know Narf will appear and post that Geo was killed after driving his car into a 40-foot tall monster made entirely out of cubic-zirconia that was fighting another 40-foot monster made entirely out of Nerf.

Too bad Geo didn't drive his car into the Nerf monster. I bet he let his monkey-butler drive for him and that's who we should blame, and not the monsters fighting for their survival in a world that hates them.

We need more monsters and less monkey-butlers.

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

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LOL @ Katchoo

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Sorry guys is my fault. Every time I try to partecipate to a PBW game the server goes down.

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Despite the rumors I am very much alive. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

The DSL is still down, I was able to get connected through a dialup modem to get you guys an update.

And before you ask, no I cannot run PBW through the dialup modem. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

The ISP is sending out a tech Monday. They are saying it's something in my wiring. I think this is unlikely since all my phones still work. I suppose the router could be having problems, but my LAN runs through the router and it still works. I suspect it's something at the CO, but they have to do things the way they have to do them I suppose.

I turned auto proc off Friday at around 6PM. Don't know how many games ran before that, hopefully not too many.

The server is fine. I can still reach it through my LAN even.

Before you ask, no you cannot come to my house and play PBW. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Hopefully things will be back up sometime Monday. I'll keep you posted.

Geoschmo

[ August 03, 2003, 00:02: Message edited by: geoschmo ]

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Can you come to my house with the server then and let me play PBW? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

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Thanxs for the update Geo..

Guess its back to being eaten by the Sharks in the Invulnerable challenge. If you are shivering and shaking from withdrawal symptoms like me then give Stone Mill's Invulnerable Challenge a go - it is way better than any old SP game!

http://www.millerhq.com/inv.htm

(shamless plug - hope you dont mind Stone Mill http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif )

[typo edit]

[ August 03, 2003, 00:00: Message edited by: Joachim ]

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By the way, the link to make a paypal donation in my sig is now fixed. I guess I screwed it up the other day when I was playing around with my profile.

Donations are always welcome, although I must remind you the current down time today is simply a technical problem wiht the ISP, not a lack of funds or anything hardware related with the server.

In fact I am going to see about getting a credit for the couple days without higspeed access here once this is all straightened out.

Geoschmo

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OK guys who lives the closest to geo" How many wireless AP's will we need to bridge it to broad band. Any hospitals near you Geo?

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">LOL, Thermo...hehe.

I might be the closest...Atlanta and Ohio. Seems like there is a regular player in Tennessee, though. I'd offer up my ISP but Charter doesn't stay up nearly as well as Geo's ISP has.

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mac... or shrapnelgames http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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Good luck on getting the credit Geo. Keep a log of all your down time. At the end of the month break it down by days, and figure your billing based upon that number.

Days / Montly Cost = Daily cost
Daily cost / 24 hours = Hourly cost

You total up your down time and figure it for your hourly or daily cost and that is your credit owed amount.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Thanks, Buddy!!! You are right... now the players have some time to give 'em a go!

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">this covers my questions about this subject :-P

i can try to write a little program that pings some servers (isp's dns server and mail.yahoo.com for example) every minute and after say 1 hour downtime sets server to alpu http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif geo?

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">If you could that would be great. Email me about this and let's talk it over some.

Geoschmo

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Jeez! Wouldn't you know it, Geo, NOW I'm in a KOTH game with a genius programmer. Had bad enough sweats with DavidG!

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">C'mon Geo, an unplanned PBW convention would be fun... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

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I'm going through withdrawal! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

Someone recommended the "invulnerable" or "invincible" mod but I cannot find the post.

I downloaded but when I hit end turn, it didn't advance the turn. What am I doing dumb? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

Any other similar games set up for single-play challenges out there?

Thanks!
Merry

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The Invulnerable Challenge was planned to play in PBW but after the challenge was ready it was noticed the challenge can't be played in PBW because only one game at time can have the same savegame name. So you need to run the turn by logging in as game master.

You can also automatize the turn processing if you create a batch file. You can find accurate examples from Invulnerable Challenge thread.

I don't believe there is any other single player challenges around. Or if there is I haven't heard about them.

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Thanks, Geo, for the updates.

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Thanks for all your time and effort Geo. If there's anything I can do to help, let me know. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

--Ed

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Thanks for the update Geo.

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For those of you hoping that PBW would be back up this morning (Hey, it's Monday, WTF?!?! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif ) don't expect anything before this afternoon EST. The technician is on the dispatch for sometime after 1 PM. That doesn't mean it will be back up at 1PM, just that that's the earliest he will show up to check things out. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

Geoschmo

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... and since you believe everything is OK at your end, if you are right then he will check things at your end, find nothing wrong, send your ISP the info and THEN someone will begin to fix the problem.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">That is what I expect anyway. I suspect the problem is at the CO. From what little I understand about the way DSL works that is where the signal for the DSL is split off from the phone signal sharing the same line.

I have checked all my wiring. Unless there is some wierd problem with the wiring that only block the DSL and allows the phone frequencies through, or if the phone jack on the DSL router burnt out but left the router otherwise totally functional. As I said my LAN runs through it and it works fine still.

Oh well...

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Nearly impossible. I know that the problem can be the other way round, no phone but DSL works. Happend at a site where later was found out that only one of the two incoming phone wires were properly connected. Weird, but obviously you only need one wire for DSL...

The only thing not working at your end that you cannot spot or check is hardware failure in the splitter (that box which splits the incoming signal into phone and DSL) or in the actual DSL modem. Very likely that the problem is there, as the phone is working, so the line to your house should be ok. And that could be fixed by the technician fast, he should have spare units. Let us all hope...

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If the D-slam is down, the phone will still work IIRC.

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But that's not a wiring problem. Phone working => all wires ok normally, at least up to the point where DSL and phone are split. Let's hope the technichian thinks the same and doesn't start looking for problems where none can be, just because he assumes by default and dogma that the problem *must* be in the end user's area and/or responsibility http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

[ August 04, 2003, 16:26: Message edited by: Roanon ]

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I don't really have one of those. At least they didn't have to install anything at my end when I got DSL. I just plugged in the router. The way I understand it the signal rides together all the way from their end to mine. I had to hook up little line filters on every phone jack that was going to be used for phones and not DSL, but other then that the only hardware is the actual DSL router box. The wire comes into it straight from the wall with no line filter.

Geoschmo

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Interesting way to do it, but makes perfect sense also. Here in Germany, we have to plug in these two failure-prone units, old phone line in one of these, computer or router in the other. Only advantage you don't have to change anything in your old phone installations, as the signal is filtered before it is fed into the house's actual phone lines.

Still, that makes a wiring problem unlikely, as phones are working. Possible that the router has a problem where the DSL input is, while the acutal network functions are working. But unlikely. Let us know what the technician will find, I'm curious http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif .

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Geo, have you restarted your DSL modem & router? Sometimes the modem &/or router will just stop accepting imput.

If by some horrible chance the DSL techs you talked to on the phone didn't advise you do this: Turn all your computers off, then unplug the power cord on the router, then the power cord on the DSL modem. Wait 1 minute, then plug the DSL modem in. Wait until it initilizes, then plug the router in, wait until it initilizes, and then turn your computers on. If that fixes it then you'll see connection immedietly.

I'm sure you've already done this, but I thought i'd mention it anyways. The Last thing you need is some snooty *** tech comming to your house, fixing the problem in 1 minute, and then getting even snootier with you about it.

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

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Wait up to 15min to 1h http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

worked for me many times (but its germany so everything sux here anyway ;P )

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Katchoo, they did sugest it, and I did it. Didn't work.

New update. The DSL tech came out and found a problem. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
Unfortunatly the problem is in the phone companies wires so the DSL tech couldn't fix it. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

Apparently there are line problems that will interfere with DSL but allow voice communication with nothing more then some slight intermitant static that unless you are paying close attention you wouldn't even notice.

I have contacted the phone company and they ran a test from their end and confirmed the problem. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
But they have to send a tech out to fix it. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

Phone co is sending a tech out to fix the line. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
Sometime in the next 51 hours. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif (Between now and 6PM EST, August 6th)

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Static noise in a digital phone line http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif
Strange, but if the phone company admits the problem, the war is half won - then they have to find a way to fix it.

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Hmmmmm....

I would think testing the lines would be one of the first things they would do.

Sending a tech out first is very labor intenstive and expensive.

Maybe a holdover from being a monopoly. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

They still have to learn to be competitive in all areas.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I have found out that waiting without disconnecting and restarting also helps. 15 to 30 min mostly. Which clearly shows the problems are with our German Telekom, not the hardware on our side, even if they try to tell us otherwise. But it has become better, 2 years ago it was about twice a month now disconnects are down to about once every 3 months, at least here (Bonn). Bringing down a monopoly sometimes really helps the customer...

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Hey Tbontob.
I haven't replied to your mail but I'll fix NGC3 when PBW comes on-line if the turn was run before Geo got home, no worry.

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Lament! Lament! 51 hours! Oh God why hast thou - (thats a bit close to sacrilege). Curse the stars and their taunting unreachable lure!!

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The phone signals are all sitll analog I believe. I know the lines are all four wire copper from the 60's. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

I agree with you about getting them to admit the problem is half the battle. I was so sure that when I called the phone co they were gonna send me back to the DSL folks. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Geoschmo

[ August 04, 2003, 20:57: Message edited by: geoschmo ]

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Lots of withdrawal symptoms out there. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

I have approached Alcoholics Anonymous to inquire if we could open a chapter called SE4 Anonymous. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

For those in serious trouble, we should provide a suicide hotline. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

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There is but one bit of good news in this tumult...

...at least Geoschmo isn't getting his DSL service from Verizon.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">:-P