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sum1lost September 29th, 2009 02:58 PM

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Nation Selection Underway.
 
I'd be happy to be an alt.

Septimius Severus September 30th, 2009 01:56 AM

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Nation Selection Underway.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sum1lost (Post 712550)
I'd be happy to be an alt.

Welcome. I'm putting you on the Mysterios team for now unless you've a preference otherwise.

Septimius Severus October 1st, 2009 01:45 AM

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Nation Selection Underway.
 
Team nation assignments via dual methods will be posted very shortly. If any team wishes to resubmit a revised ranked list now is the time to do so. Once nations are resolved to teams, no changes will be allowed except via first come first serve swap for unassigned nations. I expect we will be able to move into the pretender design/AI creation phase by the time the weekend rolls around if all goes well.

AlgaeNymph October 1st, 2009 09:22 AM

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Nation Selection Underway.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Septimius Severus (Post 712780)
If any team wishes to resubmit a revised ranked list now is the time to do so.

You read the admin, now's the time to give me suggestions (in the team forums).

Septimius Severus October 1st, 2009 01:42 PM

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Nation Selection Underway.
 
We've got 3 alternate slots still available for anyone else still interested in getting in on this game.

For the Mysterios, Agema, is back on top of things, so our nation list will be ready to go soon.

After (to avoid any more delays) team nation assignments have been completed, I am considering granting the teams led by Agema and Algae the optional right to retain a veteran in a non-participatory (non-alternate) role as "technical" advisor ;) to compensate for the experience levels of Drp and Chris and to give them an added measure of confidence going forward. The advisor will basically have access to their team's forum and will be able to answer any questions put to them.
*Note: They will just function in an advisory role and will not displace/replace the team captains rights or responsibilities for setting overall strategy.

I trust their will be no objections from DrP and Chris on this, but if there are, I will nix the idea.:D

For future games:

Since we've had such a hard time getting highly experienced/top vets to join as team captains in this game, I might incorporate this advisor type role in the next game in the series (for all teams) should it turn out to be feasable.

The bonus of this approach is that we can proceed with only intermediates and noobs on the teams, and vets can participate with minimal time commitment and without having to shoulder any responsibilities.

Thanks.

AlgaeNymph October 1st, 2009 01:47 PM

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Nation Selection Underway.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Septimius Severus (Post 712858)
I am considering granting the teams led by Agema and Algae the optional right to retain a veteran in a non-participatory (non-alternate) role as "technical" advisor ;).

Thanks. :D

All right, noobs, I'm sending the revised pick list tomorrow morning so post your suggestions in the team forum.

Septimius Severus October 2nd, 2009 05:26 PM

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Nation Selection Underway.
 
Here are the ranked lists from each team in the interests of full disclosure (minus any nations already claimed):


<table width="100%" border="1" bordercolor="#000000" cellpadding="4" cellspacing="0"> <col width="64*"> <col width="64*"> <col width="64*"> <col width="64*"> <tbody><tr valign="TOP"> <td width="25%"> The Mysterios

1. Fomoria
2. Kailasa
3. Helheim
4. Tir Na nOg
5. Yomi
6. Arcoscephale
7. Tien Chi
8. Abysia
9. Pangaea
10. Marverni
11. Agartha
12. Caelum

</td> <td width="25%"> Deva's Darlings

1. Hinnom
2. Ulm
3. Ermor
4. Sauromatia
5. Fomoria
6. Caelum
7. Yomi
8. T'ien Ch'i
9. Abysia
10. Arcoscephale
11. Helheim
12. Kailasa
13. Agartha

</td> <td width="25%"> The Blessed Ones

1. Helheim
2. Tir na Nog
3. T'ien C'hi
4. Caelum
5. Sauromatia
6. Marverni
7. Arcocephale
8. Ermor
9. Ulm
10. Yomi
11. Hinnom
12. Abysia
13. Kaliasa
14. C'tis
15. Fomoria

</td> <td width="25%"> Noobheim

1. Sauromatia
2. Hinnom
3. Formoria
4. Arco
5. Ermor
6. Ctis
7. Caelum
8. Abysia
10. Kailasa
11. Pangaea
12. Tien Chi
13. Tir na Nog
14. Ulm
15. Yomi
16. Marverni
17. Agartha
</td> </tr> </tbody></table>
Results:


<table width="100%" border="1" bordercolor="#000000" cellpadding="4" cellspacing="0"> <col width="124*"> <col width="132*"> <tbody><tr valign="TOP"> <td width="48%"> Method 1 (uncontested top picks)
My original method
</td> <td width="52%"> Method 2 (ABCDDCBAABCD) Rand
Grudgebringer's ordering method
</td> </tr> <tr valign="TOP"> <td width="48%"> The Mysterios
Fomoria
Kailasa
Yomi

Deva's Darlings
Hinnom
Ulm
Ermor

The Blessed Ones
Helheim
Tir na nog
T'ien Chi'

Noobheim
Sauromatia
Arco
C'tis

Unassigned land nations (available via swap on first come first serve basis)

Abysia
Pangaea
Marverni
Agartha
Caelum

</td> <td width="52%"> The Mysterios (Team D)
Fomoria
Kailasa
Yomi

Deva's Darlings (Team C)
Hinnom
Ulm
Caelum

The Blessed Ones (Team A)
Helheim
Tir na nog
T'ien Chi'

Noobheim (Team B)
Sauromatia
Arco
Ermor

Unassigned land nations (available via swap on first come first serve basis)

Abysia
Pangaea
Marverni
Agartha
C'tis
</td> </tr> </tbody></table>
Admin's commentary:

There was enough variety in the topmost picks of most of the teams that the top 2 results were identical regardless of the method used.

Chris' ordering method (ABCDDCBADCBA) produced the exact same result as method 1 so Grudgebringer's ordering method (ABCDDCBAABCD) was substituted in method 2. The only difference is with the 3rd picks of the Deva's and Noobheim and a slight difference in the unassigned nations.

Team captains choose your poison: method 1 or method 2. Majority decides, then its first come/first serve swaps depending upon the method you choose. After that assign your nations to your team members and tell me who's playing who so I can update the opening post.

Thanks.

chrispedersen October 2nd, 2009 07:41 PM

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Nation Selection Underway.
 
Under Method 1:

Team A: Got its 1, 2nd, and 5th pick
Team B: 1, 2, 3
Team C: 1, 2, 3.
Team D: 1, 4, 6.



Under Method 2
Team A: 1, 2, 5
Team B: 1, 2, 6
Team C: 1, 2, 3
Team D: 1, 4, 5


Since every team got its first and second pick except my own, I'd like to suggest that method 2 is a little fairer.

pyg October 2nd, 2009 08:37 PM

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Nation Selection Underway.
 
I don't quite have our captain's approval yet but Deva's Darlings would like to swap out one of our nations for Pangaea. The nation we are swapping for depends on which selection method we are going with.

DrPraetorious October 2nd, 2009 09:36 PM

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Nation Selection Underway.
 
That's fine. I'm surprised Pangaea didn't go in early draft. That said, we'll take Hinnom+Ulm+Pangaea, whichever selection method is used :).


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